British standards ???
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THe first time what was called curry appeared on our school menu ( 1960 something ) we all went to the chippy but being greedy buggers we also went back for the 2nd sitting and had the so called curry as well.
Never bothered with the chippy again.
We now hove some what I will call Asian fusion cuisine which are years ahead of the local for want of a better word Indian restaurants. You need to book a couple of weeks ahead to get a table at weekends.
We have predominately " white " schools , we also have some of the worst performing in the area.
So what does that prove apart from either the trachers are crap or that most of the kids who come from low income areas are thick or lack motivation.
Having large numbers of children from different countries and backgrounds is not an excuse they can use.
Never bothered with the chippy again.
We now hove some what I will call Asian fusion cuisine which are years ahead of the local for want of a better word Indian restaurants. You need to book a couple of weeks ahead to get a table at weekends.
We have predominately " white " schools , we also have some of the worst performing in the area.
So what does that prove apart from either the trachers are crap or that most of the kids who come from low income areas are thick or lack motivation.
Having large numbers of children from different countries and backgrounds is not an excuse they can use.
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Children born in the UK are all its own people.
Why not appreciate the differences some bring due to having a different heritage. They are all children.
Are you not capable of learning also? instead of living in the past centuries.
(My children and grandchildren would not dream of walking into your house with their outdoor shoes on, I would secretly flinch if you wore your boots in mine)
Why not appreciate the differences some bring due to having a different heritage. They are all children.
Are you not capable of learning also? instead of living in the past centuries.
(My children and grandchildren would not dream of walking into your house with their outdoor shoes on, I would secretly flinch if you wore your boots in mine)

you have no idea how much repeat business can be obtained by word of mouth. Another couple of orders
Tell me and I'll forget;
show me and I may remember;
involve me and I'll understand.
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Continent, been invited ,gone out to and prepared with, Indian and Pakistan families.
Any equal of local, great vegetarian, unique mountain dishes, fish dishes, in india can be found today in almost anywhere in England including and especially some of the smaller local unknown Indian /Pakistani/Bangladeshi Restaurants.
In fact you go to Leicester, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham, and a few parts of London,
The owners would shoot you for suggesting as such.
In fact it might be said, meat in England s better quality, some vegeatable more nutritous.Not forgetting many Asian gastronomy relevant businesses, have and use
their well known producers in England.Including herbs and spices coriander, ginger, cumin,and cloves.Saffron is no longer a stranger, sold to the rich.
Many years have drifted under the bridge, when a non snobbish Indian, mentioned for the British palett. Being a chef in an Asian Restaurant is just has special as any European cuisine specialists.
I could say ,it could lead to racism
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I have spent too long in "foreign" lands to not take my boots off when entering someone's house, even when contracting and entering the homes of little old English ladies - it is all they notice "He took his boots off when he came in the front door". Slippers in the back of the vehicle were standard kit.
you have no idea how much repeat business can be obtained by word of mouth. Another couple of orders
Tell me and I'll forget;
show me and I may remember;
involve me and I'll understand.
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you have no idea how much repeat business can be obtained by word of mouth. Another couple of orders
Tell me and I'll forget;
show me and I may remember;
involve me and I'll understand.
`
(Useful also in muddy UK).
Not sure about your remark about "toilet seats down" being an immigrant thing? thought it was just a female thing?
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With this statement, you are a longway off. I too have lived worked on the Indian
Continent, been invited ,gone out to and prepared with, Indian and Pakistan families.
Any equal of local, great vegetarian, unique mountain dishes, fish dishes, in india can be found today in almost anywhere in England including and especially some of the smaller local unknown Indian /Pakistani/Bangladeshi Restaurants.
In fact you go to Leicester, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham, and a few parts of London,
The owners would shoot you for suggesting as such.
In fact it might be said, meat in England s better quality, some vegeatable more nutritous.Not forgetting many Asian gastronomy relevant businesses, have and use
their well known producers in England.Including herbs and spices coriander, ginger, cumin,and cloves.Saffron is no longer a stranger, sold to the rich.
Many years have drifted under the bridge, when a non snobbish Indian, mentioned for the British palett. Being a chef in an Asian Restaurant is just has special as any European cuisine specialists.
I could say ,it could lead to racism
Continent, been invited ,gone out to and prepared with, Indian and Pakistan families.
Any equal of local, great vegetarian, unique mountain dishes, fish dishes, in india can be found today in almost anywhere in England including and especially some of the smaller local unknown Indian /Pakistani/Bangladeshi Restaurants.
In fact you go to Leicester, Leeds, Bradford, Birmingham, and a few parts of London,
The owners would shoot you for suggesting as such.
In fact it might be said, meat in England s better quality, some vegeatable more nutritous.Not forgetting many Asian gastronomy relevant businesses, have and use
their well known producers in England.Including herbs and spices coriander, ginger, cumin,and cloves.Saffron is no longer a stranger, sold to the rich.
Many years have drifted under the bridge, when a non snobbish Indian, mentioned for the British palett. Being a chef in an Asian Restaurant is just has special as any European cuisine specialists.
I could say ,it could lead to racism
Our particular cuisine is south Indian vegetarian so that is less common in UK. Even some London places described as that are not really so.
Woodlands is OK, but expensive (for what they serve). Leicester a little disappointing in most of the places we have tried. One Gujarati we go for lunch occasionally, (probably the best only open in the evenings).
For home cooking a daughter brings us saffron from Spain!!!
(In my post I said "often", not always!!
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Not sure I agree with you, yes there are a great many good Indian restaurants but you need to search for them. There are a great many inferior (we have sampled them!)usually the ones with a vast take-away menu.
Our particular cuisine is south Indian vegetarian so that is less common in UK. Even some London places described as that are not really so.
Woodlands is OK, but expensive (for what they serve). Leicester a little disappointing in most of the places we have tried. One Gujarati we go for lunch occasionally, (probably the best only open in the evenings).
For home cooking a daughter brings us saffron from Spain!!!
Our particular cuisine is south Indian vegetarian so that is less common in UK. Even some London places described as that are not really so.
Woodlands is OK, but expensive (for what they serve). Leicester a little disappointing in most of the places we have tried. One Gujarati we go for lunch occasionally, (probably the best only open in the evenings).
For home cooking a daughter brings us saffron from Spain!!!
The point I am trying to make the average Indian local is no better than
the local-eatery/cafe/thali house/restaurant is no better than the average indian
Restaurant in Britain.The choice and individuals tastes are relative.
A so call more expensive indian restaurant in England is not going to give you
a confirmed quality meal , and World wide every customer can be snobbish, bias
And ' je ne sais pas' when trying to make a point.
And using my Asian relatives and my own experience, I havent eaten below par indian
In Britain compared to India/pakistan, etc. I DOUBT either you or other people on this
Site can say you/they have or it id definetly nit picking at its patronising best.
Everywhere their is good, bad, and keepaway eateries.
I have never followed trip advisory critics....In fact I cant understand this one up manship mentality of whos got what, and is better, bigger, tastier, originaler, more traditional. Even Asian food as changed and developed and mixed over a thousand years...puri, duri,parstha, paratha, vindaloo, bindaloo, jafresi,kafresi, madras, koorma,
Duoorma, like all foods and origins, it will be discussed argued over which and what way....even the Asians have their pastime love hate discussions, cooking in india
at home, or in another country...I found it funny ehen I found a group of Indian pakistani friends enjoying in Agra a chow mein, telling me it was better thsn the local rubbish..
In fact when in the m i d d le 1940s The tandooris was presented to the Dehli elite,
It wasnt a year later when it was with all pomp and original ingredients when tandoori
Restaurants were open first in london then other European cities.
Many Indians in England themselves said at the time, weve known it for years, like
My grandmothers before, but we never thought of making a business of it.
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I have stopped at some lorry stops in asia and got great food, and bad.
The point I am trying to make the average Indian local is no better than
the local-eatery/cafe/thali house/restaurant is no better than the average indian
Restaurant in Britain.The choice and individuals tastes are relative.
A so call more expensive indian restaurant in England is not going to give you
a confirmed quality meal , and World wide every customer can be snobbish, bias
And ' je ne sais pas' when trying to make a point.
And using my Asian relatives and my own experience, I havent eaten below par indian
In Britain compared to India/pakistan, etc. I DOUBT either you or other people on this
Site can say you/they have or it id definetly nit picking at its patronising best.
Everywhere their is good, bad, and keepaway eateries.
I have never followed trip advisory critics....In fact I cant understand this one up manship mentality of whos got what, and is better, bigger, tastier, originaler, more traditional. Even Asian food as changed and developed and mixed over a thousand years...puri, duri,parstha, paratha, vindaloo, bindaloo, jafresi,kafresi, madras, koorma,
Duoorma, like all foods and origins, it will be discussed argued over which and what way....even the Asians have their pastime love hate discussions, cooking in india
at home, or in another country...I found it funny ehen I found a group of Indian pakistani friends enjoying in Agra a chow mein, telling me it was better thsn the local rubbish..
In fact when in the m i d d le 1940s The tandooris was presented to the Dehli elite,
It wasnt a year later when it was with all pomp and original ingredients when tandoori
Restaurants were open first in london then other European cities.
Many Indians in England themselves said at the time, weve known it for years, like
My grandmothers before, but we never thought of making a business of it.
The point I am trying to make the average Indian local is no better than
the local-eatery/cafe/thali house/restaurant is no better than the average indian
Restaurant in Britain.The choice and individuals tastes are relative.
A so call more expensive indian restaurant in England is not going to give you
a confirmed quality meal , and World wide every customer can be snobbish, bias
And ' je ne sais pas' when trying to make a point.
And using my Asian relatives and my own experience, I havent eaten below par indian
In Britain compared to India/pakistan, etc. I DOUBT either you or other people on this
Site can say you/they have or it id definetly nit picking at its patronising best.
Everywhere their is good, bad, and keepaway eateries.
I have never followed trip advisory critics....In fact I cant understand this one up manship mentality of whos got what, and is better, bigger, tastier, originaler, more traditional. Even Asian food as changed and developed and mixed over a thousand years...puri, duri,parstha, paratha, vindaloo, bindaloo, jafresi,kafresi, madras, koorma,
Duoorma, like all foods and origins, it will be discussed argued over which and what way....even the Asians have their pastime love hate discussions, cooking in india
at home, or in another country...I found it funny ehen I found a group of Indian pakistani friends enjoying in Agra a chow mein, telling me it was better thsn the local rubbish..
In fact when in the m i d d le 1940s The tandooris was presented to the Dehli elite,
It wasnt a year later when it was with all pomp and original ingredients when tandoori
Restaurants were open first in london then other European cities.
Many Indians in England themselves said at the time, weve known it for years, like
My grandmothers before, but we never thought of making a business of it.
I suppose in India we mostly eat in our own home or with relatives. We have had some amazing meals out in Pune, plenty of brilliant places there, great places in Chennai, I could go on and on.
As I said to Jackytoo the restaurants in Goa tourist areas are often not good. Too much tinned masala and a recent thing imported fish from Far East in frozen blocks. Hideous!!
Our home in Karwar fresh fish daily.
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The thread title is "British Standards" , previous posters above have also included that.
I also pointed out that because your first language/home language is not English does not mean that you are not fluent in English. (Surely as an expat in Spain you should know this?).
(I did not create the statistics why do you not believe them? have you better overall evidence?).
As to pork sausages, is it that important that they are available in all schools?
Although I agree that the whole school should be considered not only the minority or majority.
Is it not also important that children learn about other cultures in the world?
I also pointed out that because your first language/home language is not English does not mean that you are not fluent in English. (Surely as an expat in Spain you should know this?).
(I did not create the statistics why do you not believe them? have you better overall evidence?).
As to pork sausages, is it that important that they are available in all schools?
Although I agree that the whole school should be considered not only the minority or majority.
Is it not also important that children learn about other cultures in the world?
Furthermore, the majority wins. Always has and always will. It´s a bit like a voting system??? One might call it a democracy.
If you don´t tthink the majority should get the vote, you´re in the wrong country.
If you don´t like pork sausage, don´t bloody well eat it!
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THank God Stu that we live in a country where people who think like you will never be in the majority.
There was a time and a country when and where you would have been happy but not in todays world.
There was a time and a country when and where you would have been happy but not in todays world.
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Who ever he/she is it is not a Christian god or you would have very different aititudes.
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In short yes! Symbollically it´s hugely important.
Furthermore, the majority wins. Always has and always will. It´s a bit like a voting system??? One might call it a democracy.
If you don´t tthink the majority should get the vote, you´re in the wrong country.
If you don´t like pork sausage, don´t bloody well eat it!
Furthermore, the majority wins. Always has and always will. It´s a bit like a voting system??? One might call it a democracy.
If you don´t tthink the majority should get the vote, you´re in the wrong country.
If you don´t like pork sausage, don´t bloody well eat it!
That card is RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
They could not play it and win in their countries of origin because they were part of the majority.
As for democracy very few understand the meaning especially when it contradicts their desire.
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When it comes to sausages served in school the trump card is " taste ".
No child of any background or religion should be served an industrially processed product that calls itself a sausage. pork, beef, or otherwise.
The other trump card is not racial discrimination but racial tolerance something that some from all parts of the UK mix have difficulty in understanding.
No child of any background or religion should be served an industrially processed product that calls itself a sausage. pork, beef, or otherwise.
The other trump card is not racial discrimination but racial tolerance something that some from all parts of the UK mix have difficulty in understanding.





