If you want to refer to any comment of mine, use the quote button, It is not the norm to write the persons name, the quote button is for that purpose.

You will still not get direct answers to your posts from me, I am just pointing out the normal "protocol" for future reference.

But at least the UK doesn´t advocate it and will punish it accordingly!
What exactly are you saying here Domino? Let these things go on because we have enough problems of our own?

No it's not. It is roundly condemned by all and rightly so. Who exactly considers it "un PC and bigoted/racist"?

Well, I could ask you the same question, when you say "it is roundly comdemned by all" who exactly are you talking about?

Because if it was "roundly comdemned by all" the type of things mentioned would not be happening in the UK at all ,would they?

FGM laws deeming it illegal have been in the UK for nearly 30 years, yet the FIRST PROSECUTION FOR IT IS A STEP CLOSER".

The folowing article states that nearly 20,000 girls in the UK are affected each year, yet nobody so far has been convicted.

"Roundly comdemned by all" , someone, somewhere is taking the pee, don´t you think?

If it is as you say, then why haven´t the police, social services etc, had the parents and the "butchers" prosecuted?

Because surely if this practice is condemned by all, surley one member of the public would have pointed the finger and reported the guilty.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-18900803

http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.f2981


Isabelle Gillette-Faye, a seasoned campaigner against FGM, at the Gare du Nord in Paris.

She is trying her best not to be rude about the English.

"In England, you are very respectful of your immigrants," she says.

"It is very different in France. They have to integrate and they have to obey our laws."

Detection
She walks me over to the Eurostar platform to tell me the story of two little girls who were about to board the train headed for St. Pancras to be mutilated in the UK.


"It was a Friday. We heard just in time. They had tickets for the Saturday.

"A family member tipped us off. We told the police and they were stopped from making the journey."

The parents were cautioned. Had they gone ahead with the mutilations and been found out, they would have been imprisoned for up to 13 years.

"We simply will not tolerate this practice," Isabelle explains.

Does she think many French children have been cut in the UK?

"Yes, because you do not care," she says.

I asked you first.

The question was - Who exactly considers it "un PC and bigoted/racist"?

That was what you said and that was what I asked.

Yeah - right. I can think of lots of things that are 'roundly condemned by all' but still happen so you are wrong here aren't you?

(check how to spell condemned...)

This is exactly the point I was making earlier in the thread - the authorities in other European countries have much more robust systems in place for tackling these problems. The lack of such political will in the UK cannot be blamed on one or other of the two main parties, as both have been in power for roughly the same amount of time over the last 30 years.

What exactly do you hope to achieve by talking to a group of people who don't live there any more, though? Wouldn't it be more effective to be writing letters to your MP, the British press, getting in touch with some of the organisations campaigning against these abuses to see what you can do to help?

How do you know what I do and don´t do, or who I support and don´t support when I am not posting?

Also a lot of posters live in the UK, so are you saying that we can´t discuss things that are happening there, even when the thread is called British standards?

Also, it seems you are saying that we can only discuss topics that we can be "effective" in and "achieve" results.

Well if the topics were confined to only those that where results could be achieved, then the whole BE forum thing would close down due to inactivity.


Lets hope you are not thinking of becoming a mod.

Do you ever stop to think what you are saying ?

Discuss what you like, but nothing will change as a result.

The same could apply to every thread.
Discuss the cost of living, but nothing will change as a result.

Discuss the illegal houses but nothing will change,



Also all posters have the option that if they don´t like the subject matter, to abstain from posting in that particular thred.



It is strange that I haven´t seen you posting the above message about other things that can´t be changed in other threads.

Other threads don't tend to go on for dozens of pages with people like you bringing up the same points that have already been dealt with time out of number. I love the way you come out with the startling information that nobody in the UK has yet been prosecuted in an FGM case - may I refer you to my posts #121 and #175 in this thread (here's the latter just in case you're too fatigued by all the hectoring to look:-


"Following this television expose of clerics, clearly identified by name and the authorities know who and where they are, who are prepared to carry out illegal religious marriage ceremonies involving under-age girls, I would like to see what the UK authorities do about it.

I have seen investigative journalism before, only last year about doctors and even unqualified people who were prepared to carry out female genital mutilation on girls in the UK, which is also illegal (as it most certainly should be). Again, the authorities knew who these people were. But what has been done about it? Nothing - the CPS is only just now (over a month ago) saying that the first such prosecution in the UK may be "close". How close? Just how much evidence do they need? Why have there been over 100 successful convictions in France and no prosecutions, never mind convictions, in the UK?


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23982767

By the way, this is the case in Spain I mentioned earlier in the thread. The authorities here obviously have very robust arrangements in place for tackling the problem, with a representative from social services having visited the parents at home to make it clear to them that the practice is illegal in Spain, followed by regular gynaeological check-ups on the children, which is how the mutilation came to be discovered.

http://elpais.com/elpais/2013/05/26/...91_732099.html"

One might ask if YOU ever stop to think what you are saying. If you did you might not come across as quite so hysterical and bombastic. People might even be inclined to take you more seriously.

Why is it so important to you to stop this being discussed?

By the very natureof a forum, te same topics come up time after time, about illegal house, cost of living, at a host of others, but as I have said before, there has been a lack of the message you post to me.

Nothing new is said on those threads, but you don´t get narked about that.

AsI have said, unless you are a mod, and the post are not offensive, then who are you to decide what the topics are? Or indeed when it has gone on long enough.

I think you are giving yourself a bit too much importance.

If you are bored with hearing things being repeated, then give that thread a miss.

That´s what I do.

As a matter of fact, you are quite wrong. Twice within the last few weeks I have commented in threads relating to taxation issues that it is pointless to keep on saying that this or that is bad about the Spanish tax system, when neither the person posting nor the people reading the posts have any power to influence or change it, they can't even vote. Giving information and advice about such issues is much more helpful.

I am "deciding" nothing about what the topics are or how long they should go on, merely giving my view which I am perfectly entitled to do. And as you are not a moderator either, you have no remit to prevent me doing so.

Lynn why are you repeating everything Good for them but it's an isolated case. You can bet they are only paying lip service to it.

By the way, this is the case in Spain I mentioned earlier in the thread. The authorities here obviously have very robust arrangements in place for tackling the problem, with a representative from social services having visited the parents at home to make it clear to them that the practice is illegal in Spain, followed by regular gynaeological check-ups on the children, which is how the mutilation came to be discovered.

Did you read that Jackytoo and me me? I feel it may give you both something to reflect upon.

You are quite wrong. It is not an isolated case and if you read page 13 of this report you will see that by no means is Spain "only paying lip service to it":-
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/186618.pdf

I repeated my earlier post simply to demonstrate to Me Me that she is now practically meeting herself coming back and reposting information that has already been shared with the forum by other people.