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My view also.

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Women priests are forbidden in Orthodox Christianity.... I expect that's fine though because it's Christian not Muslim.....

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Trust you to come up with a post about banning women priests, when discussing womens rights.

To compare the terrible way women are treated under islam with that is just pathetic, and you know if.

I am talking about the things that are really important to most women, ie the welfare of their children.

To compare the prospect of losing custody of their children is a more pressing worry for women under sharia law, than not being allowed to be a priest is for non muslim women.

What´s with you that makes you come out with totally stupid reasoning whenever something negative is said about islam.

Are you muslim? I am wondering because you seem defend the religion at every turn, an throw in ludicrous comments, but don´t seem to care about the rights of women in your own country the UK.

I can´t think of any other reason why someone would defend the abuse of womens rights, unless islam is very important to them.

And while I don´t have strong feelings either way about women priesta, I still feel that islamic sharia law has no place in the UK.

The custody laws, inheritance laws are unfair to women, and against uk law.

Women are coersed into going to sharia courts, a lot of them don´t know their rights under UK law and are often intimidated by male relatives into seeking a judgment.

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A Christian right wing group sent a letter bomb to Northern Irish councilors.... Not Muslim, not Radical Islamic, right wing Christian.... still, best we focus on the rag heads eh?

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Isn't it better to discuss a topic than to try and twist someone elses viewpoint and comments like some sort of rubbish internet troll? At no point have I "stood up for" an abuse of womens rights or condoned anything of the sort but you keep trying to twist my words that way... it's offensive and the work of a troll. Grow up or **** off.

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And on it goes.

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I am talking about womens rights, British women who happen to be muslim, but who are not treated in the same way as non muslims as regards their rights under UK law.

What has that got to do with bombing?

I won´t hold my breath for an answer, I know you will run true to form, and create another smoke screen before calling for backup.

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Right on cue.

Maybe you can give me examples where women don´t come off worse under islam.

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The thread is about a Free School that has over stepped the remit it was given and is being dealt with.... if you want to start a thread about how women are being downtrodden then start one....

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No thanks. I might get in trouble for 'being muslim'.

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Great isn't it? It's almost like an obsession....

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Right on cue? The thread has been dormant for days, how is it "right on cue"?

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The tread is about British standards, and in Britian women have equality under UK law.

However there is a group of women who don´t have equality. those that are under islamic law.

So I think that my points are perfectly valid, as I am not discussing how muslim women are treated in Iran only in the UK.

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ISTR that Jesus said "let ye who is without fault cast the first stone" (IIRC)
that is in the New Testament of the Bible, some 800 years before Mohammed and the start of the Muslim religion - which recognises Jesus as a Prophet.

The New Testament also shows in the Acts of the Apostles that women play a key part in religion and what happened in a few short years.

~

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I really think it is.

When I raised that point before, people were saying they'd never even met a muslim, yet clearly they lie awake fretting about them.

If I believed anyone on this thread was actually an activist for women's rights, I might be prepared to listen.

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Do you actually think I lie awake fretting about muslims?:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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So the way women are treated in Hinduism and Sikhism, how orthodox Christian women and Jewish women and how tribal women in Africa is of no consequence to you, you simply don't care... what bothers you is how the filthy dirty Muslims treat their women.... Pretty much tells me all I need to know about you to be honest.

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:rofl:

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:rofl:

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It's the impression I get, yes.

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You do come across that way to be honest.

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wrong.

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I won´t say what you come across as.:rofl:

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Please do... I mean, so far, the only person who has been personal is you so if you feel the need to be personal rather than discuss the subject then just go for it....

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So you can go whinging to the mods?????AGAIN:rofl:

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See the race equality unit's alert system is working. Let them play amongst themselves, they can't operate without feeding them. Jeezuz they are better than a sleeping pill:scarper:

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Ok... firstly, don't laugh at your own jokes... Secondly... that wasn't funny... at all... and thirdly, who says I go running to anyone? Just because CERTAIN people can't control themselves and spout all sorts of empty threats and spout abuse like a hormonal teenager and then get themselves banned doesn't mean I run to the Mods... They pretty much see everything that goes on love... everything....



... and back to the subject at hand..... Free schools.....

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:zzz:

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:banghead::banghead:

Come on folks, lets not get personal.

Thanks :)

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if it is possible to have a woman Rabbi - the first was ordained in 1935 in Germany, it became a regular thing in the 1970's USA then it is possible to have women priests and imams - eventually

As the Hebrew religion is something like 3761 years older than Christianity and the Muslim religion about 600 years younger than Christianity perhaps it will be a long while before we see any major changes

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If the only discrimination faced by women in any religion was that they were not allowed to become priests or whatever the world would be a wonderful place, but I know that is not the case.

Some religions treat women as less than second class.

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I wasn't actually making the claim that women can't be Rabbis, it was more the point that women in all faiths and of all creeds face discrimination and intolerance... I am just unsure as to why it's just Islam that is being targeted by a handful of posters on here... as it always is.

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All women are treated equally by British law, in theory. Which is to say that there is no Muslim "law" in the UK, there is one law, the law of the land - but there is a religious system, and we covered that way back in the thread.

All that some people are objecting to is your sweeping generalizations about "Muslims". Clearly not all "Muslims" practice the faith to the letter and certainly only some are brutal, just as not all Christians force their wives to obey them and beat them as the Bible indicates. Equally, there is a vast amount of oppression and violence inflicted on women daily all over the world by those who claim no religion at all, so it is not a valid argument to simply draw a line around oppression afflicted by "Muslims" and then say "Muslims oppress women", and does a disservice to the rights of women as a whole.

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Maybe because the thread is about a Muslim school? You're telling people to stay on thread, maybe that's what they are doing?

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The thread is " Titled " British standards, NOT, what do you thnk about the scholol in question.
As such it covers a myriad of subjects.

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That's it, revert to quoting the bible! Well of all the underhand tactics:blink:
It sort of puts a damper on my theories:(

Good post though:thumbup:

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:confused: Have I been reading this correctly?
Is someone actually trying to compare the womans rights in Islam to that of Christian countries???? I would suggest it´s a theory so genious that it´s beyond the grasp of most :blink:

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That's because you are a normal person:D

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Ahh, thanks J2 :D

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You have indeed been reading it correctly, laughable innit?;)