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Not "my" term, it is widely used even ethnic shops. The black, Asian community describe them as so themselves having not been to the LW school of PC.

Know what, many people who use all the "correct" words don't know how to relate to a black/muslim etc person on a one to one basis. Seen it happen all the time in LA's and Gov depts.

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So what is an "ethnic country"? You still haven't provided a definition. You just keep going back to ethnic groups, which as we can see from the list Domino thoughtfully provided includes people of all sorts from every country under the sun because we all have an ethnic origin, usually more than one.

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So how would you DESCRIBE them...you are not answering the question AGAIN:sneaky: eg. you could be a writer, asked by the Police, it could be relevant.

PS I use the word Paki as I would use the word Brit and we have been over this in countless threads and I don't give a toss what you think.

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In wales in the supermarkets I have seen signs for Foreign Foods.
If its OK in wales it must be ok anywhere else.

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What about their children born in the UK?

My OH had no intention of staying long in UK until trapped into marriage by an ethnic Brit.:D He got a British passport because we travelled a lot in Europe by train in those days and he had to get a separate visa for each country which was a nuisance, such a trivial reason, no thought for his parent's feelings --but we were young!!!
Thousands at that time came with no thought of staying but did so for a variety of reasons.

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I wouldn't describe them at all really. I don't have the need. I don't go around trying to work out people's ethnic origins all the time - you know "hmm, is that a cornishman or an ulster scot?"


If I were asked by the police I would try to describe the person. You know, as a person. For example, someone from southern India looks very different from someone from Thailand and from someone from China.

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They're the worst, aren't they? They all bloody look the same, too.:frown:

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Twisting words again, I would stick with Asian which seems not to be good enough.

I am asking the same as LW (who doesn't seem able to answer)
How would you descibe 2 men in suits who are of "Asian appearance" ?

ome on, get away from the patronising smugness and answer the bloody question.

BTW Ethnic is the real McCoy...like a mexican shop selling Mexican beads whatever.

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Asian is a much less derogatory term than, Wog, Paki, nig nog etc etc, all which are in common usage in the " native English population."
Is that what we should call ourselves from now on.

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But an Indian and a Paki looks the same. Nothing in your PC dictionary to cover this situation. In the above case I would use Eastern, couldn't say chinese could I as they may come from Japan.

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So are Pakistan, India and China "ethnic countries"? Just looking for your definition of your own term here.

There are also many, many different ethnic groups within those countries, by the way, just like every other country.

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I have to say I don't know where you come from, apart from Paki I have never heard anyone personally use those words...you are the master of making it up as you go along:thumbdown:

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Answer my question and I may answer yours:lol: Never seen you answer one on here yet! Just snidey sarcastic comments.

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I would go down the "middle of the road, sitting on fence" route.

I would say "he is not blonde, he is not ginger, he has not got freckles, he is not pale skinned, he doesn´t look chinese, or Scandi, he does not look like Jamie Foxx either" and leave whoever to draw their own conclusions.

That way I could be proud of my PCness, and feel good about myself.:rofl::rofl:

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You describe them as you would any one, height, size, facial features, complexion(it does vary you know even between those of the same ethnic group). If you have no knowledge of the differences between different groups why would you need to say?

In everyday life why also the need? --they are all British 'people' can you always tell the difference unless they speak between Scottish, Irish or Welsh people. Why do you need to call them anything? Everyone has a name!!! (Which, thinking about it, will immediately tell you their origins).:)

In general Pakistani people do look different from Indian people. Obviously a North Indian Muslim person will look much the same as a Pakistani person.

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I answered you in the post quoted above.

Your turn.

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Oh dear:rolleyes::rolleyes: If 2 men left a suspicious package on a bus I wouldn't KNOW their name would I:p. Although in that case I would probably describe them as 2 muslims:lol:

I don't exactly like being called a Brit seeing as it covers half the world...I am English:thumbup:

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No you didn't, you skirted around it...get the PC stuff out and answer properly.

Ethnic...lets see. used to describe people who make third world crap and flog it to the richer nations...just a shot:rofl::rofl: I guess it means different things to different people. Like the defenition of a tosser or a nutter:starsmile::starsmile:

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That fact that you don't like my answer doesn't mean that I didn't answer.

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I actually said in my post "In everyday life you would use their name". I wouldn't count finding a suspicious package as "everyday".
Agree about "Brit" I used it as a (forum) joke, although I do think of myself as British*.
White, faded ginger:thumbdown: wouldn't think to describe myself as this, unless on an expat forum:lol:

*Although also part of an Indian family.

Actually the words "Asian appearance" to the police or other is no problem, it is when the word 'Asians' is used as a negative term for all 'brown' people that it is insulting. Context matters.

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You obviously have lived a very sheltered life or are posting complete balls.
If you have lived in the UK for any time in a mixed community then you would be familiar with these terms and many many more which have no room on this forum.

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I'm quite happy to be British - it's a political identity since it covers many ethnic groups. I was born and grew up in England so "feel" English in many ways, but also have known Irish, Welsh and Norman ancestry and some partly southern Indian cousins. Not sure what that makes me in a police lineup.

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Why do you always come out with the same old crap?

why is it that you regard people as not having lived in a mixed community as having had a sheltered life?

We are now in the UK in our marital home, and I can assure you it is not a mixed community, we are about the most exotic folk here, and I can pass for English in anyone´s eyes.

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You call it crap , I call it the experience and knowledge of the vast majority of the UK population.
You may have chosen to live in a bubble that does not reflect the experience of any city or town dweller in the UK.
I think that you will soon be in for a rude awakening if you think that you live in the " real " uk.

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It's you who lives in a bubble, majority do not live in innner city sink estates from which you get your "experience". You post out of your arse:thumbdown:

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Keep digging JT, London, Machester,Birmingham almost every town and city in the UK is now multi national.
I am not surprised at your and Me Me 's comments now that I know they live in a community that obviously has not changed since 1950.
I do not think that Middx, Oxfordshire or Somerset count as an " inner cities ".
Do you have barricades to keep " foreigners out, do new residents have to show their passports and submit to a nationality test ".
I now have this image of the " stepford wives "whenever I see your posts.

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I am in the real UK, and enjoying itwhy do I live in a bubble?

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I would say that the two people looked of Indian or Pakistani origin. There - unlike you I don't see the need to resort to a derogatory term like Paki. I wonder why you do?

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"Hardly ".
As iou obviously " think " you live in the " real UK " it now explains your sometimes odd views of life here.

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Funny you should say that, I realised long ago that he was never going to post anything worth reading.

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We live in a part of Cheshire where it is reported that 96.7 percent of the population is of English Irish or if you like white population, so what?

Btw so do the other inhabitants so what do you suggest I do about it?

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It's simply an abbreviation, a bit like Brit, it's how you interpret it that's the problem. As ex military, nearly all my mates were Jock, Taff, Paddy, Janner, Scouse, Geordie etc, nobody minded or took offence, it simply referred to where they came from.

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Just for Info. the majority of Indian immigrants and their descendants don't live in inner city sink estates. Sorry, they are spread around the country:lol
Every hospital has at least one working there:)

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Funny I know Cheshire well , places like Crewe, Nantwich, Northwich. there is now way you could call them 96.7 % English etc. from your description I would think that you live in what our friends call WAG land. hardly the " real UK ".
I assume you chose it becasue it is ( you think ) 96,7 % English.:D:D:D:D:D

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I googled it and that is the area where I live. Otherwise I would have had no idea what the percentage was. So is not that real UK then?

We have owned our house for over 20 years and did not consider the number of whites when we bought, what an idiotic thing to say, not undexpected but still idiotic.

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Indeed. One of my Indian cousins is a university prof. Who would have thunk it, eh?

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So when during my youth when we had to have small vaccine injections against small pox the fact that it was called Paki Pox by some was not a derogatory term and racially offensive.
What a world some of you must have lived in or still live in.

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Well I never heard anything like that where I grew up. It must have been a right dump where kids were dragged up.

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No it was in Middx, part of the " real UK " with a very mixed population with some unfortunately with the views that are still to be found , sadly on this forum.
I hope that you do not have any coloured footballers living in your part of " cheshire " that would really bring the area down and alter the racial percentages.

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London had a Saturday night "sport" of "paki bashing" among certain thugs in the sixties and seventies.

Don't know how old you are but it was a bit unmissable.