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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11107940)
No it was in Middx, part of the " real UK " with a very mixed population with some unfortunately with the views that are still to be found , sadly on this forum.
I hope that you do not have any coloured footballers living in your part of " cheshire " that would really bring the area down and alter the racial percentages. , so why are non white children allowed to suffer and why are there apologists, like you who seem to condone it? |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11107901)
Just for Info. the majority of Indian immigrants and their descendants don't live in inner city sink estates. Sorry, they are spread around the country:lol
Every hospital has at least one working there:) |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 11107945)
London had a Saturday night "sport" of "paki bashing" among certain thugs in the sixties and seventies.
Don't know how old you are but it was a bit unmissable. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11107967)
Well if you kept up you will read the boot is on the other foot. lots of no-go areas now all imposed by muslims. heaven help you now if you are Gay in an area populated by Muslims...or like a drink!
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11107924)
So when during my youth when we had to have small vaccine injections against small pox the fact that it was called Paki Pox by some was not a derogatory term and racially offensive.
What a world some of you must have lived in or still live in. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11107908)
Funny I know Cheshire well , places like Crewe, Nantwich, Northwich. there is now way you could call them 96.7 % English etc. from your description I would think that you live in what our friends call WAG land. hardly the " real UK ".
I assume you chose it becasue it is ( you think ) 96,7 % English.:D:D:D:D:D |
Re: British standards ???
Hardly ,and unlike some i do not have the mindset of a 1950, suburban house wife.
I had my small pox jab in the 70,s. We went on holiday to Jugoslavia that year and you could tell who were the Brits by the plasters on their arms. |
Re: British standards ???
Here it is the definitive PC speak as put out by a University. Use it as a fly spray to keep LIW away:rofl::rofl:
http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Writing/style/Page12.htm |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11107984)
Here it is the definitive PC speak as put out by a University. Use it as a fly spray to keep LIW away:rofl::rofl:
http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Writing/style/Page12.htm Since when did meeting a basic level of common courtesy and consideration come to be PC? Just wondering. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 11107959)
I do not live in wag land and why is it racist to not like the idea of non white British girls being mutilated and having forced marriages and such. Infact I would say you are the racist who does not think that these girls deserve equal rights with white British people. You believe they should suffer because they are not white. If white people were hacking their kiddies fingers off with blunt instruments the parents would be jailed.
, so why are non white children allowed to suffer and why are there apologists, like you who seem to condone it? I have explained in a previous post that forced marriage is illegal in India and would be denounced by the majority. People have been jailed there if caught trafficking or procuring any girls for such a marriage. What has this got to do with not being able to distinguish one brown face from another and the negative concept that 'they are all the same'? |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11108004)
Why would anyone condone the genital mutilation of girls by some African nationals?
I have explained in a previous post that forced marriage is illegal in India and would be denounced by the majority. People have been jailed there if caught trafficking or procuring any girls for such a marriage. What has this got to do with not being able to distinguish one brown face from another and the negative concept that 'they are all the same'? |
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Except for the very nice Indian family that JT and her community have taken to their heart, I doubt that they would feel the same if the i Indian family invited their extended family from around the UK and from India to come and live locally.
I think that I shall call you Margo from now on JT, your posts are getting more and more like that character. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11107984)
Here it is the definitive PC speak as put out by a University. Use it as a fly spray to keep LIW away:rofl::rofl:
http://dissc.tees.ac.uk/Writing/style/Page12.htm |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 11108015)
What a load of nonsense, it just gets dafter, you shouldn't call someone from the West Indies, West Indian, African-Caribbean is preferable.:rofl:
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 11108020)
Wait until you have to call Spanish peeps IBerian.
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 11108030)
Well the Spanish, like the Brits, have a bit of all sorts mixed in there, the Romans, Indians (gitanos), Arabs, Jews to name a few, so not sure what bit to prefix the Iberian with! ;)
Anyway as much as I am enjoying myself here, must get ready as tonight is Saturday night. A bit of a break from posting is a good thing especially for the preachers on the outrage bus. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 11108042)
I couldn't give a monkey's what I am called. .
Enjoy your night, have one for me! |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 11108009)
I have not made any comments on not being able to tell one Brown face from another. I am talking about this thread which is called British standards and asking why some non white British children are not given the same rights as white British children.
Of course all citizens should have equal rights and there are many in all communities in the UK trying to ensure this. You could also ask why some white British babies are still being returned by social services to mothers unfit to care for them ending with the death of babies/toddlers in too many cases. Enjoy your evening out, I have seriously ruined my afternoon selecting on-line bets for the Cheltenham festival. At the instigation of OH;) He has acquired too many English habits. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11107732)
So how would you DESCRIBE them...you are not answering the question AGAIN:sneaky: eg. you could be a writer, asked by the Police, it could be relevant.
PS I use the word Paki as I would use the word Brit and we have been over this in countless threads and I don't give a toss what you think. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by me me
(Post 11108009)
I have not made any comments on not being able to tell one Brown face from another. I am talking about this thread which is called British standards and asking why some non white British children are not given the same rights as white British children.
call it Elitist if you will but the kids of the country concerned cannot get a basic edikayshun in accordance with the law of the land because they are continually having to work to the lower language standards of incomers if your kids in Spain were held back because of native British kids with a lack of Spanish you would go ballistic.:eek: end of. ` |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Bipat
(Post 11108072)
I thought actually it was about education standards? it then extended to the "Asians" being bussed in to better areas of schooling".
Of course all citizens should have equal rights and there are many in all communities in the UK trying to ensure this. You could also ask why some white British babies are still being returned by social services to mothers unfit to care for them ending with the death of babies/toddlers in too many cases. Enjoy your evening out, I have seriously ruined my afternoon selecting on-line bets for the Cheltenham festival. At the instigation of OH;) He has acquired too many English habits. They were beaten down by groups of ethnic minorities who demanded that as their older kids were being schooled there the youngsters automatically should be schooled there. This despite the school being over 3 miles or more for the kids to get there. So native British are actually being forced to travel over 3 miles to school when there is one around the corner and kids from ethnic minorities are being bused in by parents and taxi on a daily basis. ` |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Domino
(Post 11107668)
your the expert I was hoping you could tell me
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 11107889)
It's simply an abbreviation, a bit like Brit, it's how you interpret it that's the problem. As ex military, nearly all my mates were Jock, Taff, Paddy, Janner, Scouse, Geordie etc, nobody minded or took offence, it simply referred to where they came from.
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11108365)
Paki is different from those because Paki is offensive. It might not seem so to you but it is. Just bear in mind that if you use it you will be offending people although I do realise that offending people might not bother you.
I recall such a survey was conducted a few years ago and a clear majority said they weren't at all offended by the term. I don't use the term myself, but am merely pointing out that it is not necessarily as derogatory as many believe it to be. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 11109402)
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I don't use the term myself, but am merely pointing out that it is not necessarily as derogatory as many believe it to be. A "Pakistani" producing his clothes range "Paki", says "Paki is just a shortened version of Pakistani - its literal meaning is 'the pure' - so why should anyone be afraid of being called pure? A native from Kazakhstan is a Kazakh, someone from Uzbekistan is an Uzbek; so why is someone from Pakistan not allowed to be called a Paki?" Jeff Mirza, who was born in Pakistan but brought up in Essex, was questioned over the use of the term in his act “Meet Abu Hamsta and Paki Bashir†at the Edinburgh Fringe. Mr Mirza, 49, was dressed in character as a butcher, called Paki Bashir, when he was questioned at the police station on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. He was warned that he could be arrested and charged if he continued to use the poster, although he is continuing to do so. Mr Mirza said: “How on earth can I be accused of racism against my own community?†His act centres on jokes about Pakistan and the wider Islamic world. His main character, Bashir, tells the audience he loves his family, “otherwise of his workforce†and says of Pakistan: “We also have a thriving gay community and they are also known as clerics.†Other characters include Hamsta, a Saudi said to be al Qaeda’s ambassador of the arts in Luton. There is also Jameela, a woman in a burka, who tells how she was widowed when her first husband blew himself up as a suicide bomber at the third attempt. “But a few years ago I realised that I am a Paki and I should be proud of that. Pakistan means Land of the Pure and what’s wrong with that? |
Re: British standards ???
If its not an offensive term, then I challenge you to go to Acocks Green in B.ham and ask the residents if it is OK to all them Pakis. ??
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Re: British standards ???
Yes - members of a community sometimes take on derogatory terms as a badge of honour; for instance black people sometimes call each other nigger and gay people sometimes call each other queer or dyke. They are still derogatory terms.
Personally I don't ever find the need to use Paki and I wonder why some people do. |
Re: British standards ???
Do we have a smug smile emoticon on here. We need one as some folks are full up of their own goodness:lol:
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11109584)
Do we have a smug smile emoticon on here. We need one as some folks are full up of their own goodness:lol:
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Lion in Winter
(Post 11107945)
London had a Saturday night "sport" of "paki bashing" among certain thugs in the sixties and seventies.
Don't know how old you are but it was a bit unmissable.
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11107967)
Well if you kept up you will read the boot is on the other foot. lots of no-go areas now all imposed by muslims. heaven help you now if you are Gay in an area populated by Muslims...or like a drink!
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11109607)
Looks like you are admitting that using the word Paki is bad then...
Everybody knows really. Why would one gratuitously say these things? There are plenty of other perfectly good ways to describe people. |
Re: British standards ???
Tell the truth you are bored and baiting....go play with yourself tara:thumbdown:
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 11109584)
Do we have a smug smile emoticon on here. We need one as some folks are full up of their own goodness:lol:
If its funny ill laugh and that is how it should be. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11109545)
If its not an offensive term, then I challenge you to go to Acocks Green in B.ham and ask the residents if it is OK to all them Pakis. ??
No wonder you are such a bloody misery.:frown: As explained it's best that those directly involved pass judgement on the term rather than ourselves and clearly many of them don't share your opinion. |
Re: British standards ???
Have you ever looked at the audience of these comics who poke fun at their own culture? They are 90% + white. certainly not the average man in the street from their own comunities.
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 11109622)
You do seem to frequent the nicest places.
No wonder you are such a bloody misery.:frown: As explained it's best that those directly involved pass judgement on the term rather than ourselves and clearly many of them don't share your opinion. If you had any knowledge of B,ham you would know that Acocks Green is on one of the main routes into the city centre, like Sparkhill another area with a large Asian population. Obviously for you and others " Ignorance is Bliss ". |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 11109554)
Yes - members of a community sometimes take on derogatory terms as a badge of honour; for instance black people sometimes call each other nigger and gay people sometimes call each other queer or dyke. They are still derogatory terms.
Personally I don't ever find the need to use Paki and I wonder why some people do. Isn't there some racism/sexist/homophobia in that :confused: the problem is being English with limited knowledge of other languages, how do I know they are using a derogatory term about/against me :confused: |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11109628)
Unlike some who live at the top of a mountain or in a suburban bubble some of us actually have some knowledge of the UK as it is.
If you had any knowledge of B,ham you would know that Acocks Green is on one of the main routes into the city centre, like Sparkhill another area with a large Asian population. Obviously for you and others " Ignorance is Bliss ". We are all well aware that such places exist and many of us have no doubt seen them. We are equally aware that such places are not typical or the norm as you would obviously wish us to believe. |
Re: British standards ???
Maybe it has got something to do with the history between the so called superior white races and others.
Were white people slaves subjected appaling violence or degredation denied much of what we take for granted for centuries. The terms some think are OK to use are the same ones used by those who abused them or worse and are still used today by the ignorant. |
Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11109623)
Have you ever looked at the audience of these comics who poke fun at their own culture? They are 90% + white. certainly not the average man in the street from their own comunities.
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Re: British standards ???
Originally Posted by EMR
(Post 11109641)
Maybe it has got something to do with the history between the so called superior white races and others.
Were white people slaves subjected appaling violence or degredation denied much of what we take for granted for centuries. The terms some think are OK to use are the same ones used by those who abused them or worse and are still used today by the ignorant. Fortunately most of the civilised world, though never perfect, has moved on a long long way since then and unlike your sad miserable self, grown up and matured somewhat. |
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