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Asian and African countries don't have a very good track record concerning L&G's.

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Is Asia or Africa in the UK? Have the tectonic plates moved?

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Just to try to sort out any confusion, your post here me me...

(light-hearted though it may have been:)) implied that anybody other than white people (therefore presumably including the ethnic groups which RM mentions) would make life unbearable for gays and other persecuted groups.

Which is of course absurd.

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Seeing as this thread is/was about a school in the UK I would say anything goes:)...what's the weather like in your place today:D

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My point was that gay people can claim asylum in the UK because they are in danger in their own country, and as those people want to come to the UK they must like the way the British standards, or they would look elsewhere.

Even if certain groups in the UK still harbour ideas against gays, it is still not the over riding way that British standards are perceived.

As for other groups not being tolerant to gay and lesbians there is the recent case if the Ditta family who have been jailed for beating and trying to kidnap their sister's lesbian partner, to force her to reveal her whereabouts.


The girl in question was also running from an arranged marriage, which considering the woman in question is gay, could be considered as a forced marriage.

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In which countries in Africa, Asia or the Arab world can gays openly be gay and not be discriminated or persecuted?

I am curious to know.

I do know however that being gay is a capital offence in Iran, and since 1979 4000 have been executed.

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Here you go....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_ri...y_or_territory

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I don't know. I also don't know why it's particularly relevant. There are loads of non-white gay people in the UK which shows that it's not only white people who are tolerant of it - which is what we were talking about.

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There is no arguement that many countries including those that were once part of the British Empire and Commonwealth have not reached the levels of tolerance we now have in the UK ( Of course Gay bashing never happens, ha ha ha ).
legislation decriminalising homosexual behaviour is only 60 years old in what we regard as the most advanced society in the world. Yet some still expect every other country even those which did not exist 100 years ago to apply the standards that it took the UK 100,s of years to reach.

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So if you are gay it is vital that you stay away from the amber, orange and brown areas.

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Yada yada yada......

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Looks that way.

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I think it depends what you mean by "openly". In India gays are 'accepted' but don't behave so openly as for example in UK or USA.
Heterosexuality is not displayed so "openly" as in Europe or USA!!!

There have been hundreds marching, without problem, to get the old British Law re-repealed. (Delay occurs in all things legal and political in India.)

Men in general are far more tactile with each other and heterosexual male friends often walk hand in hand.
When I first went to India decades ago I thought such men were all gay, when told of my thoughts my new mother-in-law thought it hilarious. So such matters were obviously openly discussed as in UK.

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Even if you are not gay, but use a bit of moisturiser and have your back, sack and crack waxed, it would be best to steer clear.:rofl:

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As usual MM never let facts get in the way of your bigotry.

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Isn't this fun?:rofl:

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:sick:

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Ok fess up, what is making you sick?

The blob of face cream or the waxing?:D

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It's all this talk of body parts in the nether regions. Women talk about that stuff - not men.:(

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It's all very well for you, I was starting to believe that it had been made compulsory. :eek:

It was rumoured that when a gay rights bill was first mooted, a member of the House of Lords advocated that it be paid. ;)

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It is relevant because all people in the UK of all races are subject to British law, which does not criminalise homosexuality.

For example there are people who are tolerant to gays in all countries, there will be Iranians in Iran who are, but as the law of the country says it is a capital offence, then it will not be a gay tolerant country.

the same goes for people in the UK who are from intolerant countries, the have to adhere to the more tolerant laws in the UK.

The death penalty for any offence is handed out by the government not individuals, it is the law and policy that is intolerant.

The map shows intolerant countries where it is against the law.

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You perhaps noticed the yellow countries with "unenforced penalty", (one of them having a billion* population). Just waiting for the slow mechanics of law change, to get rid of old British Law!!!

*About 15% are Muslims.

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Lets hope it doesnot take these countries as long to change the law as it did the UK.

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Surely that is up to them !

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I am a bit confused, are you suggesting that the anti gay legislation in the old UK colonies is OK.
Are you suggesting that these or any other country is free to apply its own laws no matter how apalling they seem to us ??
If so will we see an end to posting of DM type stories which give extreme examples of punishment meted out to women and others for " breaking " the laws of the land they live in. !!!

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In day to day terms it doesn't matter as the law is not enforced. It is just a 'paper' change.

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However in countries like Uganda or Nigeria it is a very different matter.

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Now I´m confused.
Perhaps you´re right though EMR. We shouldn´t read stories of the appauling treatments meted out in case it´s sheds a bad light on those "meting it out".
A bit much for us to take as a nation that considers a fine, community service or a prison sentence punishment enough!

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So let's say it takes another 300 years to change the law, you would see that as a positive, then?:rofl:


What a diamond of a post.:rofl:

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Great idea Stu, if we don't read about Fgm, beheadings, stoning etc it will all disappear.

The ostrich stance. I like it.

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Are you missing a brain cell or two.

What does LETS HOPE IT DOES NOT TAKE THESE COUNTRIES AS LONG TO CHANGE THE LAW Etc mean to you.


MM read Andys post where he suggests that it is up to the countries how and when they change their laws, it is therefore none of the business of the UK what happens there.

We cannot have it both ways, we should give assylum to anyone fleeing these draconian laws and do what we can on the global stage to change things.

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I don'tknow why you are compelled to defend the indefensible. You are becoming a laughing stock, and you really do let you other apologists down with your childish posts. I bet they wish you would change sides.:rofl:

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What you do, trying to imply that other posters are saying something that they clearly aren't and then trying to whip up outrage with lines like ".....apologists..." And "....defend the indefensible" that's a classic tactic of trolls you know. Now I'm not suggesting that's what you are doing, not for one second, just that it's the same tactics trolls use to catch posters out and whip up a posse to go at them.... Now I'm not suggesting that's what you are doing, simply an observation.... That's all.

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You are missing a few more brain cells since the last post.

I repeat again in language that even you should be able to understand.

It took the UK 300 years to change its laws, let hope that it does not take the old UK colonies another 300 to change theirs.

Now do you get it !!!
Somehow I doubt it,

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It didn't take that long for India to get rid of the British, so the left over unenforced law on homosexuality which is already on the 'table' for re-repeal, shouldn't take long!!!! :lol:


The majority of gay people of non European origins in UK will be from India and Pakistan.
I was surprised to find the link below about Pakistan.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/23811826

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I was posing a question not making a suggestion

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do you honestly think EMR would bat for the other side ??

:rofl:

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Lets hope none of those Gay Asylum seekers move to muslim areas. Lots of gay bashing in Tower Hamlets etc. Unfortunately the Police seem to ignore it most of the time:thumbdown:

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If you want to talk about missing brain cells let's see. It might have escaped your notice, I doubt it though, but it hasn't escaped me, that you are on you own.

Have you not noticed that other posters who share a lot of your views never quote you or post that they agree with you?

Whereas they quote eachother and run with each other's points of view and add to it. They don't do that with you though, do they?

What can we conclude from that?

So in answer to your missing brain cells post aimed at me, I will take it on the chin, and hit you with a punch of my own.

I gather that there are some posters on here, that although you share similar views, still want to keep a distance and are not interested in you being seen as 'one of them'.

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EMR is always the one to come on with insults about posters intelligence. Laughable when he is the worst speller on the forum...and lets not menton the grammar:rofl::rofl: