Originally Posted by spain (Post 5103584)

dont you mean you like the idea of living here, as you dont yet you cant prefer it ;)

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5103640)

Oh! And PJJ. I'm guessing you're a bloke in his twenties/early thirties right? Listen to what's being said by those of us who have lived outside of this country before. Listen especially closely to those posters that are living in the very same country in which you want to reside. Their information is priceless Son.

Switch to receive not transmit fella!

Originally Posted by cajam31 (Post 5103897)

Wow, what a sweeping comment. I was once one of those teenage mums who the tax payer supported for the first 2 years of me being a teenage mum many years ago, I am flabbergasted that my child would still be labelled a bastard.
Despite what people think, life as a teenage mother is the hardest thing i've ever done in my life, rather than the easiest as many think it is, and the fathers who abandon these children still dont take any blame for it!
<off my soapbox now>

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5103957)

Holy shite is this thread bizarre!

Moan moan moan, too many Immigrants in the UK so I'm going to Spain.

Too many terrorists so I'm going to Spain.

Too many many rules and regulations so I'm going to Spain.

Too many Drugs so I'm going to Spain.

Too many people complaining about their lot in life so I'm going to Spain!


The irony is deafening me!!!!

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5103597)

Right you lot!:mad: I've had enough of reading this cackka!
Here it is, as I see it, plain and simple.
The UK. Matt said in an earlier post when responding to Big Pete that people aren't necessarily bothered about immigration in the UK.
This view does not reflect my own observations. Immigration is a huge problem here. Compounded in three main areas:
1. The rise in Islamic Terrorist incidents.
2. The housing shortage - particularly affecting first time buyers.
3. Labour charges being undercut.
I'd suggest that many people are reluctant to air their concerns regarding immigration because it's 'unfashionable' to do so. After all, you wouldn't want to be labelled as a racist now, would you? Indeed, in October of last year it became a criminal act to behave discriminately toward a group of people because of their religious belief. Despite them causing the deaths of 50+ commuters in London a couple of years ago.
Successive cases of Governmental sleaze, involvement in wars that nobody wants, a non-elected Prime Minister, continual hikes in taxes and restrictions what Big Pete would describe as his freedom to enjoy a smoke are all playing their part in making people re-consider their future in the UK.
The Social Security system continues to support the highest European rate of teenage pregnancy out of taxpayer's contributions. Providing for very young single mothers whilst giving them accommodation and further cash incentives to spew out more 'bastard' children. Immigrant workers who qualify for child benefit allowance (even though their children have not set foot out of Poland since the father has been working in Britain?). Job-seekers allowance to those who prefer to seek a job via the Trisha show. The CSA was such a disaster that it has now been disbanded after having millions of public money wasted on it - only to be replaced by the same organisation with a different name. Where an old war widow who my wife visits once a week is made to pay a full council tax contribution but the Asian family living in the same block of flats are not required to pay at all.
The NHS. 'A service for all' is really is on its arse. Where Cancer patients 'win' treatment via a postcode lottery rather than by need in some cases. Maternity units where children are actually dying as a direct result of the shortage of Midwives.
Prisons so overcrowded that the Home Office is releasing so-called non-violent offenders early. Non-violent because the criminal act that brought about their conviction didn't (this time) result in the death or near-death of their victim/s. Unknown - literally - UNKNOWN numbers of illegal criminal immigrants that never quite made it to Jail and are now living at large. Care in the Community = failure. Register of Sex Offenders = failure. Reform of Prisoners = failure. Paedophiles being told by Judges to buy their victim "a nice bike" to get over their attack.
Shit weather and hose pipe bans. Costly education. And Fearn fri&&in Cotton!
All reasons to seek paradise elsewhere. An elsewhere where you support yourself, abide by the rules of your host country and get back more of what you put in. Be that Spain, Portugal, Cyprus or America. Anywhere better than here!
On a final note. I don't hate my country. I just hate what my country has become. Good luck to anyone whose contemplating the move. And good luck to those of you already there.:cool:

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5104116)

Matt, with your experience you could no doubt rattle off a list of reasons not to go to Spain. I'm merely providing my opinion on why I'm sick of the UK. I don't see the irony mate.

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5104139)

good post these are some of main factors that im moving abroad ive been self employed and have been for years over paided in to the system :thumbdown: and if your dont work you given a easy ride but thats another thread going a bit off course there , that has got to be one of the best true posts on this thread :thumbsup:and any one whose followed this thread will agree seeking a better quality of life abroad is the way forward just looking how many immigrates are coming to are country for a better quality of life :rofl::D

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5104110)

Cajam. I meant no offence to you as an individual. I'm saying that many people who pay-in to the system are just getting so sick of seeing others who aren't (more because they don't want to nor have to) benefit from it. And I used the word 'bastard' in the dictionary sense, not as a form of insult. FWIW I agree that there are many absent fathers who don't contribute to the upkeep of their children when they obviously should. I see it merely as another fault of successive Governments by not getting to grips with the situation.

However, I also know only too well that we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in this country. Can you explain to me why that is? And more to the point. Please explain why people like me should support teenage mothers on benefit?

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5104142)

Honestly!! Am I the ONLY one who can see the irony??

If I am then I will delete my account now!!

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5104110)

Cajam. I meant no offence to you as an individual. I'm saying that many people who pay-in to the system are just getting so sick of seeing others who aren't (more because they don't want to nor have to) benefit from it. And I used the word 'bastard' in the dictionary sense, not as a form of insult. FWIW I agree that there are many absent fathers who don't contribute to the upkeep of their children when they obviously should. I see it merely as another fault of successive Governments by not getting to grips with the situation.

However, I also know only too well that we have the highest rate of teenage pregnancy in this country. Can you explain to me why that is? And more to the point. Please explain why people like me should support teenage mothers on benefit?

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5104139)

seeking a better quality of life abroad is the way forward just looking how many immigrates are coming to are country for a better quality of life :rofl::D

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5104142)

Honestly!! Am I the ONLY one who can see the irony??

If I am then I will delete my account now!!

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5104142)

Honestly!! Am I the ONLY one who can see the irony??

If I am then I will delete my account now!!

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5104200)

i was taking the p**s with that last comment at the end of post quite funny i thought ,;) dont be stupid about deleteing account i felt like that yesterday after our little war of words some times we only want to hear things we want to hear , at the end of the day we all have different views on this subject of up ing sticks and moving to spain and what are country the uk has become so i would say to any one on here dont take to much to heart what people say and if you want to go and live abroad go for it and give it a go whats the worse that can happen good luck to anyone who does give it a go :thumbup: