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Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by billgates
(Post 5103261)
We have kids in the local spanish village school. They are settled in and enjoying their time here. Class sizes are about 10-15 instead of 30+.
I believe they have a better quality of life here living in the campo than in the UK. But for us parents it's the same as being in the uk - work, kids, homework, work, kids, homework. There are many downsides to life in Spain and some real good points to living in the UK. The weather is the obvious one. |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by billgates
(Post 5103261)
We have kids in the local spanish village school. They are settled in and enjoying their time here. Class sizes are about 10-15 instead of 30+.
I believe they have a better quality of life here living in the campo than in the UK. But for us parents it's the same as being in the uk - work, kids, homework, work, kids, homework. There are many downsides to life in Spain and some real good points to living in the UK. The weather is the obvious one. |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by pjj
(Post 5103177)
ive been listening rugbymatt ! what gets to me is everyone keeps putting downers on this thread about spain i said this time and time again at the end of the day we know spain is far far from easy and is nothing like the uk, some of the things people say just dont add up :confused:! if its so bad there and they are struggling why stay there in spain why dont they come back to there beloved uk :D
So just take all the info in (after all I assume you are here to hear about Spain from people who live here) and take a balanced view of everything you see ;) |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by spain
(Post 5103224)
I dont think anyone has said they are struggling pjj
people who live here are just stating facts of course if was was that bad (for us or anyone else) we/they would go back thats not the point I and others are trying to make jeees there is just no helping some people pjj - maybe start a new "quality of life" thread, I will reply how fantastic it is living here, there are no downsides and you will live happily ever after - how about that :eek: |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 5103228)
but I've lived & worked here nearly 4 years, & don't want to live anywhere else
BUT IT IS NOT THE PARADISE THAT THOSE WHO HAVE NOT LIVED & WORKED HERE THINK IT IS!!:curse: |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by lynnxa
(Post 5103242)
just trying to give a reality check
we stay because we prefer it here but is not perfect |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by pjj
(Post 5103443)
you are saying you prefer to stay in spain and like i am saying i prefer to live in spain :thumbsup:
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Re: better quality of life
Right you lot!:mad: I've had enough of reading this cackka!
Here it is, as I see it, plain and simple. The UK. Matt said in an earlier post when responding to Big Pete that people aren't necessarily bothered about immigration in the UK. This view does not reflect my own observations. Immigration is a huge problem here. Compounded in three main areas: 1. The rise in Islamic Terrorist incidents. 2. The housing shortage - particularly affecting first time buyers. 3. Labour charges being undercut. I'd suggest that many people are reluctant to air their concerns regarding immigration because it's 'unfashionable' to do so. After all, you wouldn't want to be labelled as a racist now, would you? Indeed, in October of last year it became a criminal act to behave discriminately toward a group of people because of their religious belief. Despite them causing the deaths of 50+ commuters in London a couple of years ago. Successive cases of Governmental sleaze, involvement in wars that nobody wants, a non-elected Prime Minister, continual hikes in taxes and restrictions what Big Pete would describe as his freedom to enjoy a smoke are all playing their part in making people re-consider their future in the UK. The Social Security system continues to support the highest European rate of teenage pregnancy out of taxpayer's contributions. Providing for very young single mothers whilst giving them accommodation and further cash incentives to spew out more 'bastard' children. Immigrant workers who qualify for child benefit allowance (even though their children have not set foot out of Poland since the father has been working in Britain?). Job-seekers allowance to those who prefer to seek a job via the Trisha show. The CSA was such a disaster that it has now been disbanded after having millions of public money wasted on it - only to be replaced by the same organisation with a different name. Where an old war widow who my wife visits once a week is made to pay a full council tax contribution but the Asian family living in the same block of flats are not required to pay at all. The NHS. 'A service for all' is really is on its arse. Where Cancer patients 'win' treatment via a postcode lottery rather than by need in some cases. Maternity units where children are actually dying as a direct result of the shortage of Midwives. Prisons so overcrowded that the Home Office is releasing so-called non-violent offenders early. Non-violent because the criminal act that brought about their conviction didn't (this time) result in the death or near-death of their victim/s. Unknown - literally - UNKNOWN numbers of illegal criminal immigrants that never quite made it to Jail and are now living at large. Care in the Community = failure. Register of Sex Offenders = failure. Reform of Prisoners = failure. Paedophiles being told by Judges to buy their victim "a nice bike" to get over their attack. Shit weather and hose pipe bans. Costly education. And Fearn fri&&in Cotton! All reasons to seek paradise elsewhere. An elsewhere where you support yourself, abide by the rules of your host country and get back more of what you put in. Be that Spain, Portugal, Cyprus or America. Anywhere better than here! On a final note. I don't hate my country. I just hate what my country has become. Good luck to anyone whose contemplating the move. And good luck to those of you already there.:cool: |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by pjj
(Post 5103384)
funny i might just do that hey i might start up a new web site called moaning miserable expats :p
Im sooooooooo hot today, sick of all this sun and the air con humming all day, soon it will cool down, then we will have the rain, then my bloody roof will start leaking, cant find where the leak is coming from, made an appoinment for someone to look at it but then they never turned up but waited in all day for them, "manaña" they call it ........... not that I am moaning at all :wub: |
Re: better quality of life
Oh! And PJJ. I'm guessing you're a bloke in his twenties/early thirties right? Listen to what's being said by those of us who have lived outside of this country before. Listen especially closely to those posters that are living in the very same country in which you want to reside. Their information is priceless Son.
Switch to receive not transmit fella! |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by derbyflan
(Post 5103597)
Right you lot!:mad: I've had enough of reading this cackka!
Here it is, as I see it, plain and simple. The UK. Matt said in an earlier post when responding to Big Pete that people aren't necessarily bothered about immigration in the UK. This view does not reflect my own observations. Immigration is a huge problem here. Compounded in three main areas: 1. The rise in Islamic Terrorist incidents. 2. The housing shortage - particularly affecting first time buyers. 3. Labour charges being undercut. I'd suggest that many people are reluctant to air their concerns regarding immigration because it's 'unfashionable' to do so. After all, you wouldn't want to be labelled as a racist now, would you? Indeed, in October of last year it became a criminal act to behave discriminately toward a group of people because of their religious belief. Despite them causing the deaths of 50+ commuters in London a couple of years ago. Successive cases of Governmental sleaze, involvement in wars that nobody wants, a non-elected Prime Minister, continual hikes in taxes and restrictions what Big Pete would describe as his freedom to enjoy a smoke are all playing their part in making people re-consider their future in the UK. The Social Security system continues to support the highest European rate of teenage pregnancy out of taxpayer's contributions. Providing for very young single mothers whilst giving them accommodation and further cash incentives to spew out more 'bastard' children. Immigrant workers who qualify for child benefit allowance (even though their children have not set foot out of Poland since the father has been working in Britain?). Job-seekers allowance to those who prefer to seek a job via the Trisha show. The CSA was such a disaster that it has now been disbanded after having millions of public money wasted on it - only to be replaced by the same organisation with a different name. Where an old war widow who my wife visits once a week is made to pay a full council tax contribution but the Asian family living in the same block of flats are not required to pay at all. The NHS. 'A service for all' is really is on its arse. Where Cancer patients 'win' treatment via a postcode lottery rather than by need in some cases. Maternity units where children are actually dying as a direct result of the shortage of Midwives. Prisons so overcrowded that the Home Office is releasing so-called non-violent offenders early. Non-violent because the criminal act that brought about their conviction didn't (this time) result in the death or near-death of their victim/s. Unknown - literally - UNKNOWN numbers of illegal criminal immigrants that never quite made it to Jail and are now living at large. Care in the Community = failure. Register of Sex Offenders = failure. Reform of Prisoners = failure. Paedophiles being told by Judges to buy their victim "a nice bike" to get over their attack. Shit weather and hose pipe bans. Costly education. And Fearn fri&&in Cotton! All reasons to seek paradise elsewhere. An elsewhere where you support yourself, abide by the rules of your host country and get back more of what you put in. Be that Spain, Portugal, Cyprus or America. Anywhere better than here! On a final note. I don't hate my country. I just hate what my country has become. Good luck to anyone whose contemplating the move. And good luck to those of you already there.:cool: |
Re: better quality of life
i agree with your comments totally derby flan
Just think about this Two weeks ago I was standing in the line to board the plane to come home to spain with my son A very unusual looking spanish guy and his partner stood behind us............. He looked totally spaced out .......... He asked us where we lived, .........I told him in Spain ......He told me he couldnt afford to live in Seville as it cost him all her earned to rent a house ,,,,But he could live in London as they gave him a flat to live in and money to live on .............he had no rent to pay ...................I told him we had to buy our house in spain and we had to pay health care .......... I also told him that we had left Brittain because of the taxes we had to pay and the stupidity of the wealth fare state .....I then told him I was glad he was using my taxes well ........And left it at that .... |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by spain
(Post 5103584)
dont you mean you like the idea of living here, as you dont yet you cant prefer it ;)
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Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by spain
(Post 5103599)
thats such a good idea - let me know when its up and running:thumbsup:
Im sooooooooo hot today, sick of all this sun and the air con humming all day, soon it will cool down, then we will have the rain, then my bloody roof will start leaking, cant find where the leak is coming from, made an appoinment for someone to look at it but then they never turned up but waited in all day for them, "manaña" they call it ........... not that I am moaning at all :wub: |
Re: better quality of life
Originally Posted by derbyflan
(Post 5103597)
The Social Security system continues to support the highest European rate of teenage pregnancy out of taxpayer's contributions. Providing for very young single mothers whilst giving them accommodation and further cash incentives to spew out more 'bastard' children. Despite what people think, life as a teenage mother is the hardest thing i've ever done in my life, rather than the easiest as many think it is, and the fathers who abandon these children still dont take any blame for it! <off my soapbox now> |
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