Originally Posted by gallerie9 (Post 5104726)

yes i have seen that on the TV, It gather it is because the population is dwindling, I would think or I presume that the people who revieve it would have to have been paying into the social secrurity system, Unlike the UK you get it with out discrimination

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5103597)

Right you lot!:mad: I've had enough of reading this cackka!

Here it is, as I see it, plain and simple.

The UK. Matt said in an earlier post when responding to Big Pete that people aren't necessarily bothered about immigration in the UK.
This view does not reflect my own observations. Immigration is a huge problem here. Compounded in three main areas:

1. The rise in Islamic Terrorist incidents.
2. The housing shortage - particularly affecting first time buyers.
3. Labour charges being undercut.

I'd suggest that many people are reluctant to air their concerns regarding immigration because it's 'unfashionable' to do so. After all, you wouldn't want to be labelled as a racist now, would you? Indeed, in October of last year it became a criminal act to behave discriminately toward a group of people because of their religious belief. Despite them causing the deaths of 50+ commuters in London a couple of years ago.

Successive cases of Governmental sleaze, involvement in wars that nobody wants, a non-elected Prime Minister, continual hikes in taxes and restrictions what Big Pete would describe as his freedom to enjoy a smoke are all playing their part in making people re-consider their future in the UK.

The Social Security system continues to support the highest European rate of teenage pregnancy out of taxpayer's contributions. Providing for very young single mothers whilst giving them accommodation and further cash incentives to spew out more 'bastard' children. Immigrant workers who qualify for child benefit allowance (even though their children have not set foot out of Poland since the father has been working in Britain?). Job-seekers allowance to those who prefer to seek a job via the Trisha show. The CSA was such a disaster that it has now been disbanded after having millions of public money wasted on it - only to be replaced by the same organisation with a different name. Where an old war widow who my wife visits once a week is made to pay a full council tax contribution but the Asian family living in the same block of flats are not required to pay at all.

The NHS. 'A service for all' is really is on its arse. Where Cancer patients 'win' treatment via a postcode lottery rather than by need in some cases. Maternity units where children are actually dying as a direct result of the shortage of Midwives.

Prisons so overcrowded that the Home Office is releasing so-called non-violent offenders early. Non-violent because the criminal act that brought about their conviction didn't (this time) result in the death or near-death of their victim/s. Unknown - literally - UNKNOWN numbers of illegal criminal immigrants that never quite made it to Jail and are now living at large. Care in the Community = failure. Register of Sex Offenders = failure. Reform of Prisoners = failure. Paedophiles being told by Judges to buy their victim "a nice bike" to get over their attack.

Shit weather and hose pipe bans. Costly education. And Fearn fri&&in Cotton!

All reasons to seek paradise elsewhere. An elsewhere where you support yourself, abide by the rules of your host country and get back more of what you put in. Be that Spain, Portugal, Cyprus or America. Anywhere better than here!

On a final note. I don't hate my country. I just hate what my country has become. Good luck to anyone whose contemplating the move. And good luck to those of you already there.:cool:

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5102744)

Thats a view I just cannot understand .... something very bad must have happened to you KW. I can't see disallusion being such a valid reason for hating a country so much you want to lose your nationality. I'm proud of being British and always will be. Its overall a great country. Its got its down sides yes, but so has Spain.
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5104142)

Honestly!! Am I the ONLY one who can see the irony??

If I am then I will delete my account now!!

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 5105063)

think your the only one Matt :blink:

Originally Posted by keithwalters (Post 5105048)

It´s equally as hard for me to understand people who say "I´m proud to be British" and "it´s a great country". Just don´t get where they are coming from.

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 5105063)

think your the only one Matt :blink:

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5105080)

are we going to start all over again Pete?

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 5105086)

No ..... you're not ;)

Originally Posted by keithwalters (Post 5105048)

No, nothing bad happened to me. I can´t even attribute my dislike of the country to anything specific. It´s just a general build up of a feeling over the 30 years that I was there. I don´t get any positive vibes out of the place at all and when I am forced to visit I can´t wait to leave.

It´s equally as hard for me to understand people who say "I´m proud to be British" and "it´s a great country". Just don´t get where they are coming from.

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5105089)

Heard ya loud and clear.....

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 5105093)

But then most of the Brits are thick anyways , i see people all day long and i sometimes wonder how they ever get through a day :rofl: