Originally Posted by Miss Naughty (Post 5100332)

Ive got to the point if it goes tits up again try try again, i will try not to get it wrong this time, however we normally get most things wrong lol.

Mr N is more practical than me, if i had my way and my eldest was not going to do her gcse's i would just hop on a plane rent then worry about paying the rent when i get there lol.

But Mr N wants it done perfect now :sneaky:

Originally Posted by poollounger (Post 5098500)

I think the difficulty with this post is a definition of what constitutes a 'better quality of life'. This will mean entirely different things to different people.
Listening to Posh on TV she was definitely expecting a better quality of life in the USA.... and many would envy her life. I sincerely don't.
A life completely free from stress ?? Well get measured for that coffin...
It amuses me that some of the Chiclaneros head to Malaga and Fuengirola for their holidays.
A lot of common sense in the many replies.
However....
I was at a wedding in Folkestone this weekend. Wonderful venue on the cliffs looking over to France. Folkestone on the up. And yet there was something sleazy about it, that places like Chiclana or Tarifa if we want to compare with a busy port do not have. They can be a bit hick, have many tourists, but there is still a different atmosphere. Admittedly the weather helps. And Pete, in case you haven't realised, Spain had the smoking ban long before Britain..

Originally Posted by spain (Post 5097734)

couldnt agree more - but sometimes when I say this to people they think I am being negative or trying to put them off coming when thats not the case - we had a nice life in England both earning decent money and doing ok, we think sometimes to ourselves "what was we thinking moving to Spain" " why would anyone want to put themselves under this much pressure"

but there are lots of plus sides to living here but it all comes down to the fact that no one really knows what its like ( or even if Spain is for them) until they live here - in the 4 1/2 years we have been here we have seen so many people come and go and all the friends we made when we first arrived have left to go back :(

Originally Posted by Fuzzlepop (Post 5095999)

Since I came back things I noticed so far:

* Stupid signs everywhere saying what you can and can't do!
* Horrible Weather
* Everyone looks like their chewing wasps or sucking on a lemmon.
* Expensive
* Horrible Beaches
* Unreliable transport
* Pigeons & seagulls

Pretty much it.

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5097783)

:frown: i dont think thats true spain! ive been going to spain quite a few years now and i know a quite alot of young and old people who live in spain and love there lives there yes they have to work and dont every one unless you are retired or are in the money, and yes they are not earning the big bucks they were earning in the uk but they are content with there lives and they have a better standard of living ! i know friends in the uk at the min who have got good work experience and good qualifications but they are struggling to get work so its as hard in uk to find work let alone spain , alot of the people on here know there is going to be pit falls when moving abroad and we all know its not going to be a walk in the park so lets not put a DOWNER :thumbdown: on this thread :sneaky: and get back to what the thread is all about BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5097783)

:frown: i dont think thats true spain! ive been going to spain quite a few years now and i know a quite alot of young and old people who live in spain and love there lives there yes they have to work and dont every one unless you are retired or are in the money, and yes they are not earning the big bucks they were earning in the uk but they are content with there lives and they have a better standard of living ! i know friends in the uk at the min who have got good work experience and good qualifications but they are struggling to get work so its as hard in uk to find work let alone spain , alot of the people on here know there is going to be pit falls when moving abroad and we all know its not going to be a walk in the park so lets not put a DOWNER :thumbdown: on this thread :sneaky: and get back to what the thread is all about BETTER QUALITY OF LIFE

Originally Posted by spain (Post 5097863)

Im not putting a downer on the thread just being realistic

when you have lived in Spain for a couple of years come back and let us know your experiences

"quality of life" is what you make it where ever you live but as I have said in the short time we have been here a very high percentage of people have gone back to UK . so obviously their quality of life was not what the expected !!!! thats a fact

key factors are
the language - even fluent Spanish speakers find it difficult to find a relatively good job
work - as above and if you do find work, wages and hours are often crap
cheaper living costs - hmmm well thats debateful, fags, booze, road tax, council tax, eating out all cheaper - but the wages reflect that and what about the things that are more expensive :confused:

anyway, I wish you well in your move to Spain and hope it all turns out as you expected :thumbsup:

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5098356)

spain i under stand where you are coming from ! you are right quality of life is what you make it from where ever you come from understandable ! but i feel are country is a very expensive country to live in and the quality of life is not exactly great i feel you have to work long hours here to get any where oh and before you say i konw you will work longer hours in spain ,in the uk the weather is crap the people are always moaning to much crime i could go on , but like we have said on here time and time again you will never know if spains is for you unless you try it !

Originally Posted by spain (Post 5098554)

:rofl: yes and THANK GOD for msn - so when you are feeling down at least you can talk/see your family and friends (another thing I miss from UK :( )

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 5098419)

oh bu&&er I'm agreeing with you again:confused::rofl:

Originally Posted by derbyflan (Post 5098581)

Well I'm ******g loaded so it's easy street for me anyroad up!

As the great Paul Young once said - "Wherever I lay my hat......that's me casa".

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 5100672)

get back home then :confused:

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5100167)

funny what cos i didnt understand what he meant i wont be able to make it as estate agent :frown:

Originally Posted by pjj (Post 5100218)

Hey pjj

Dont go everyone should just agree to disagree xxxx

Originally Posted by Big Pete (Post 5100672)

get back home then :confused: