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Old Mar 19th 2011 | 10:07 pm
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Originally Posted by bil
What, you read one thread, don't like it and judge the whole site on that?

I always thought it worked on the basis that "You no likum thread, you no readum thread."

Sheesh.
One thread? Why would I base it on one thread? And where did I say I am judging the whole site?

No .... I base it on having been a member here for many years, and seeing that more recently some people seem to enjoy jumping on new posters. We have lost a number of them for that reason, and I wouldnt mind betting that some just read and dont post

Read this again if you missed it HERE

Now back on topic please
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 10:38 pm
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...... and seeing that more recently some people seem to enjoy jumping on new posters. We have lost a number of them for that reason, and I wouldnt mind betting that some just read and dont post

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I am new here. Mitzyboy you are right, about newbies maybe 'not feeling welcome'
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 10:44 pm
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I am new here. Mitzyboy you are right, about newbies maybe 'not feeling welcome'
Newbies offend the "Old Guard" They make them feel inferior and threatened.
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
One thread? Why would I base it on one thread? And where did I say I am judging the whole site?

No .... I base it on having been a member here for many years, and seeing that more recently some people seem to enjoy jumping on new posters. We have lost a number of them for that reason, and I wouldnt mind betting that some just read and dont post

Read this again if you missed it HERE

Now back on topic please
It is not only new members that are singled out for abuse but also people who have spent quite a few years on here helping others. I decided that I would start reading and not posting but this does not sit well with me so I am at the point of leaving instead.

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Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
One thread? Why would I base it on one thread? And where did I say I am judging the whole site?

No .... I base it on having been a member here for many years, and seeing that more recently some people seem to enjoy jumping on new posters. We have lost a number of them for that reason, and I wouldnt mind betting that some just read and dont post

Read this again if you missed it HERE

Now back on topic please
Not you, him.
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:33 pm
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
It is not only new members that are singled out for abuse but also people who have spent quite a few years on here helping others. I decided that I would start reading and not posting but this does not sit well with me so I am at the point of leaving instead.

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Don't do that. True, it can get a bit vigorous, but it isn't as tho it can descend to violence. You can simply say to yourself, I just won't respond to that thread.
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:40 pm
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Originally Posted by bil
Don't do that. True, it can get a bit vigorous, but it isn't as tho it can descend to violence. You can simply say to yourself, I just won't respond to that thread.
I agree with you in one way but if I was at a social gathering of ex-pats and there were quite a few people of this nature I would not put my self in the position again of having to mix with them. So looking at it dispassionately I would not mix socially with this type of person therefore why mix with them on the only ex-pat forum that I frequent. My time would be better spent talking to pleasant people elsewhere..

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Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
I agree with you in one way but if I was at a social gathering of ex-pats and there were quite a few people of this nature I would not put my self in the position again of having to mix with them. So looking at it dispassionately I would not mix socially with this type of person therefore why mix with them on the only ex-pat forum that I frequent. My time would be better spent talking to pleasant people elsewhere..

Rosemary

I totally agree! Its a shame cos there are one or two nice and informative posters on here, the rest seem to simply argue and become aggressive and hostile for the sake of it!

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Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by The Oddities
I agree with you in one way but if I was at a social gathering of ex-pats and there were quite a few people of this nature I would not put my self in the position again of having to mix with them.

Rosemary
Ah, but they wouldn't be like that in company, they'd be as nice as pie to your face! It's only when they sit anonymously behind a computer that the bravado and nastiness appears. I'm sure the guy that was slated is educated and experienced enough in his particular field to know how much to safely divulge.

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Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:58 pm
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Good to see its keeping on topic eh?
 
Old Mar 19th 2011 | 11:59 pm
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Just going back to the topic.

I seemed to remember that there was some restiction on those over 18, having sex with those aged 13 to 18 but I cannot find anything on the net.


I did find this through:-

Showing pornography to a person who is under 18 is illegal, as too is paying somebody under 18 for sex (the spirit of the law is that sexual relations must be free, and not 'forced by the power of money,' physical force or whatever).


My personal view is that all sexual acts should be confined to persons of not less than 18 years.
 
Old Mar 20th 2011 | 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by JulianWard
My personal view is that all sexual acts should be confined to persons of not less than 18 years.
Why not 21? You'd have about as much chance of that. Plus it still wouldn't deter anyone who had the inclination to sleep with young teens.

Plu, and it's a big plus, what sense is there in trying to institute a form of sexual prohibition to go with the one on drugs, which is already in tatters.

Far more sensible to stick to the Dutch concept that it isn't abuse if both parties are under 16.

Also, and this is a biggie. At 16 you are allowed to join the army. Now, IMO if you are mature enough to join the army, in my eyes you are old anough to drink, smoke and vote.

If someone is old enough (technically) to die for their country, it seems churlish to me to deny them a beer before they go.
 
Old Mar 20th 2011 | 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Why not 21? Plus it still wouldn't deter anyone who had the inclination to sleep with young teens.
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But it would make it a criminal offence, and if sentences were deterrent (that is a sentence which really does deter) then there would be a reasonable degree of protection for minors. At present, as long as the minor can be persuaded to take part, IN SPAIN there is no protection from anyone of any age.
 
Old Mar 20th 2011 | 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by MickeyTong
Well....it's obvious that no one here has ever read a professional journal or textbook dealing with sensitive subjects - they are full of anonymised case studies.I had thought this thread was going to be a serious discussion of the ethics and child protection implications of the age of consent in Spain and elsewhere. Not a comfortable topic for anyone.

I am aware that there will be members of any internet forum (or any group of people) who have the misfortune to have been sexually abused when they were children. I apologise to those people because I will make no further posts here: it is not a venue for serious discussion, but a place for ad hominem attacks and saloon bar banter.

Enjoy your Siesta Time, folks. I'm off to another pub.

That is the point I was making that as you say this type of case is often cited in Professional journals and textbooks, I dont think that this BE site is the appropriate place to be putting so much detail.

The idea of having these case studies in profeesional journals, is for the information of the people who need to know about such cases


I am not saying that discussions and such are not appropriate, what I am saying is, posting a particular case about such a sensitive subject, where the peopleand their families involved would recognise themselves, and then asking the victim to PM. is not quite right, not an a site for expats.

Some involved in the case could be expats and this would not be something they would like to stumble across, that is my take on it.

Once it has been put out on the internet that is it, it stays there, and there was far too much peronal info.
 
Old Mar 20th 2011 | 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by JulianWard
My personal view is that all sexual acts should be confined to persons of not less than 18 years.
That's a bit hard on those who marry at 16 isn't it?
 


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