Age of Consent In Spain
Mar 18th 2011 | 4:58 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Save us all a lot of trouble and unnecessary expense as well.
Mar 18th 2011 | 5:43 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
I used to work with a group of adult survivors of childhood sexual abuse in a residential unit. One of them (call her Mary) had been abused by her father and his girlfriend from age 4 until he went to prison when she was 14. I met her when she was 19 and cutting her thighs and boobs every day.
Daddy was a clinical psychologist and also led a paedophile ring. He arranged lots of parties where kids, including Mary, were passed around and shared. The kids had to do things to each other, too. Dogs were involved. Films were made. Photos were taken (smile for the camera, sweetie). Mary was encouraged to bring her school friends to the house...
Anyway, Daddy was rumbled and spent a couple of years inside, lost his licence as a psychologist. Came out of prison and started phoning Mary, sending her letters full of love and threats.
Lo! and behold! One afternoon the guy suddenly turns up at the unit, insisting that he has a right to see his only daughter. MickeyTong in charge of things, spoke to Mary who wanted nothing to do with him but was too intimidated to tell him herself. MT (tact and diplomacy personified) advised the guy to leave the premises because there were 18 people (who all knew Mary's story and had similar stories themselves) very keen to rip his nuts off and shove them down his throat. He gave me a smirk, and left.
For a fortnight afterwards my conscience bothered me because I didn't kill him or at least do him serious damage. This is a man who will not (cannot) change his ways. He was probably damaging children when I met him and he is probably damaging children even now.
Some people should be killed as a service to society.
Daddy was a clinical psychologist and also led a paedophile ring. He arranged lots of parties where kids, including Mary, were passed around and shared. The kids had to do things to each other, too. Dogs were involved. Films were made. Photos were taken (smile for the camera, sweetie). Mary was encouraged to bring her school friends to the house...
Anyway, Daddy was rumbled and spent a couple of years inside, lost his licence as a psychologist. Came out of prison and started phoning Mary, sending her letters full of love and threats.
Lo! and behold! One afternoon the guy suddenly turns up at the unit, insisting that he has a right to see his only daughter. MickeyTong in charge of things, spoke to Mary who wanted nothing to do with him but was too intimidated to tell him herself. MT (tact and diplomacy personified) advised the guy to leave the premises because there were 18 people (who all knew Mary's story and had similar stories themselves) very keen to rip his nuts off and shove them down his throat. He gave me a smirk, and left.
For a fortnight afterwards my conscience bothered me because I didn't kill him or at least do him serious damage. This is a man who will not (cannot) change his ways. He was probably damaging children when I met him and he is probably damaging children even now.
Some people should be killed as a service to society.
So, you can identify anyone from my post? Confidentiality has been breached? Well done, Sherlock. People like me should keep quiet about the subject of paedophilia and let you get your information from The Daily Mail.....
This happened in 1994 - he was not on a Sex Offenders' Register, there was no restraining order against him and he had committed no criminal offence by being there. It wasn't a Police matter, Sherlock. If any of the residents had assaulted him, they would have been arrested and charged.
Thanks for your wise advice from a safe, comfortable and naive distance.
This happened in 1994 - he was not on a Sex Offenders' Register, there was no restraining order against him and he had committed no criminal offence by being there. It wasn't a Police matter, Sherlock. If any of the residents had assaulted him, they would have been arrested and charged.
Thanks for your wise advice from a safe, comfortable and naive distance.
i would hardly think putting it on an expats forum is classed as tactful.
It seem the norm then is to slag off the rest of us not involved in this fied and call us naive and resort to telling us the great harm that is done, and how they pick up the pieces.
A load of balls, citing cases like this even the victims themselves could be reading it, easy to spot, having a dad who is a clinical psycologist and head of a paedo ring is hardly the norm.
Mar 18th 2011 | 5:57 am
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Re: Age of Consent In Spain
Given the casual way known paedos are released back into the community, permanent incarceration would serve society far better.
Possibly you are right. I personally would prefer the quick way out, but not everyone feels like that.
Mar 18th 2011 | 6:04 am
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The Data Protection Act is supposed to protect victims from people like you.
Mar 18th 2011 | 7:16 am
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That's not the point. You can't go around handing out the death penalty like sweeties based on what you think.
Given the casual way known paedos are released back into the community, permanent incarceration would serve society far better.
Possibly you are right. I personally would prefer the quick way out, but not everyone feels like that.
Given the casual way known paedos are released back into the community, permanent incarceration would serve society far better.
Possibly you are right. I personally would prefer the quick way out, but not everyone feels like that.
Given the choice, I imagine many of the guilty parties would prefer to risk short term torturing by waterboarding, to lifetime torture as you describe, with absolutely no possible hope for the future.
Mar 18th 2011 | 7:36 am
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I am sure the people involved in any way with this matter would know who is being talked about here, as later on you give the date, of the incident.
Thank god I was never involved in any way with any type of authority or social worker, as a lot of them seem to be on here spouting off about cases, I thought keeping ones gob shut was a requirement of the job, as well as tact.
i would hardly think putting it on an expats forum is classed as tactful.
It seem the norm then is to slag off the rest of us not involved in this fied and call us naive and resort to telling us the great harm that is done, and how they pick up the pieces.
A load of balls, citing cases like this even the victims themselves could be reading it, easy to spot, having a dad who is a clinical psycologist and head of a paedo ring is hardly the norm.
I am with you on that, do you think that because their work was so sensitive and confidential is the reason that they are letting their gob run away with them. I do.
Thank god I was never involved in any way with any type of authority or social worker, as a lot of them seem to be on here spouting off about cases, I thought keeping ones gob shut was a requirement of the job, as well as tact.
i would hardly think putting it on an expats forum is classed as tactful.
It seem the norm then is to slag off the rest of us not involved in this fied and call us naive and resort to telling us the great harm that is done, and how they pick up the pieces.
A load of balls, citing cases like this even the victims themselves could be reading it, easy to spot, having a dad who is a clinical psycologist and head of a paedo ring is hardly the norm.
I am with you on that, do you think that because their work was so sensitive and confidential is the reason that they are letting their gob run away with them. I do.
I mentioned the year, but not even the country.
Is it common on this forum to slag off therapists? Are we the only people not allowed to discuss the subject?
Mar 18th 2011 | 7:52 am
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I always shudder when I read posters giving away too much personal information about their own lives; we may be in cyber space but it’s relatively easy to trace people if you really want to.
And, having shuddered and even lectured people on their indiscretions, what do I do?
I behave just like the people I’ve complained of, with bells on. However hard I try not to, however much I believe that anger is always a negative emotion, however often I try and tell people not to travel with hatred in their hearts or spitefulness furring their arteries, it happens – there it is, a short post that winds me up and I forget common sense and fire off an unwarranted reply.
There is no point in saying it won’t happen again, because I’m a fallible human being and it will. I’m itching to say more about the nonce shot on his doorstep, but I’m going to try not to.
And, having shuddered and even lectured people on their indiscretions, what do I do?
I behave just like the people I’ve complained of, with bells on. However hard I try not to, however much I believe that anger is always a negative emotion, however often I try and tell people not to travel with hatred in their hearts or spitefulness furring their arteries, it happens – there it is, a short post that winds me up and I forget common sense and fire off an unwarranted reply.
There is no point in saying it won’t happen again, because I’m a fallible human being and it will. I’m itching to say more about the nonce shot on his doorstep, but I’m going to try not to.
Mar 18th 2011 | 8:04 am
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Thank god I was never involved in any way with any type of authority or social worker, as a lot of them seem to be on here spouting off about cases, I thought keeping ones gob shut was a requirement of the job, as well as tact.
i would hardly think putting it on an expats forum is classed as tactful.
i would hardly think putting it on an expats forum is classed as tactful.
I had to sign the Data Protection Act, and even though I'm now retired I'm still bound by that undertaking.....I wouldn't dream of discussing cases either here or anywhere else for that matter, shame on those that do.
Mar 18th 2011 | 8:13 am
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I worked for Local Government and had to liaise closely with Social Services.
I had to sign the Data Protection Act, and even though I'm now retired I'm still bound by that undertaking.....I wouldn't dream of discussing cases either here or anywhere else for that matter, shame on those that do.
I had to sign the Data Protection Act, and even though I'm now retired I'm still bound by that undertaking.....I wouldn't dream of discussing cases either here or anywhere else for that matter, shame on those that do.
Not the when I worked for MI5........type stuff.
Mar 18th 2011 | 8:21 am
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Yes, but would you not consider permanent incarceration in solitary confinement as you describe it, to be torture ?
Given the choice, I imagine many of the guilty parties would prefer to risk short term torturing by waterboarding, to lifetime torture as you describe, with absolutely no possible hope for the future.
Given the choice, I imagine many of the guilty parties would prefer to risk short term torturing by waterboarding, to lifetime torture as you describe, with absolutely no possible hope for the future.
Actually, I know I keep saying it, but do read what I post before you endeavor to jump down my throat?
The remark about welding the door shut et al, was for normal people obviously a bit of hyperbole. I did say I wasn't happy with permanent incarceration, but I felt there was no realistic alternative.
Ask anyone. You can't let anyone out of jail who is a proven danger to society, or at least you shouldn't. Sadly it does happen. Paedos are a known factor. Let them out and they will offend again as sure as anything.
No-one with a scrap of empathy, even you, sees permanent incarceration as humane.
So what's the alternative? A bullet in the back of the head after being found guilty? It would get a lot of support, agreed but that doesn't necessarily make it right. No penalty that is irreversible, or that cannot be reasonable financially compensated for should ever be permitted in a civilised society.
Mar 18th 2011 | 8:41 am
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I’ve just run a quick check, JLFS, clever trick, pal, it was MI6 wasn’t it? The Spanish and Irish section. I never did trust that lot.
Mar 18th 2011 | 8:53 am
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I know nothing about this highly efficient, undercover, special assignment, troubleshooting, Iber-Irish section, you are talking about.
Mar 18th 2011 | 9:20 am
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