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Blue Cat Jul 10th 2013 2:40 am

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10793094)
And post it on a public form so the venue gets into trouble? :confused:

exactly :thumbdown:

Blue Cat Jul 10th 2013 11:32 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 
Been to LuLu, I think everyone is on drugs, talk about watching paint dry!!

Meow Jul 13th 2013 6:30 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 
In case it's of use to anyone

http://www.thenational.ae/business/i...during-ramadan

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 7:10 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799032)

Something a bit wrong about reporting your own company to the MoL though, no?

Meow Jul 13th 2013 7:46 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10799073)
Something a bit wrong about reporting your own company to the MoL though, no?

Why? Not if you are being mistreated. Your call.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 7:50 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799116)
Why? Not if you are being mistreated. Your call.

Toughie.

Problem is I was in the office until gone 7pm on the first day of Ramadan, I'm too busy to leave at 3pm every day, I just disagree that it's completely not allowed in this office.

Second issue is you just look like you want a month of early finishes and to slack off.

But, you're probably about to say / think that I can't moan if I won't do anything about it so hey ho.

Meow Jul 13th 2013 7:52 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10799125)
Toughie.

Problem is I was in the office until gone 7pm on the first day of Ramadan, I'm too busy to leave at 3pm every day, I just disagree that it's completely not allowed in this office.

Second issue is you just look like you want a month of early finishes and to slack off.

But, you're probably about to say / think that I can't moan if I won't do anything about it so hey ho.


The difference is that you have a career and want to get on. Consider however, the poorly paid admins or tea boys etc who lose out in this situation.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 8:24 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799128)
The difference is that you have a career and want to get on. Consider however, the poorly paid admins or tea boys etc who lose out in this situation.

Indeed, but if they aren't Muslim then it's just another working day / month.

That's what we get told anyway..."you're not Muslim, why should you work less hours?"

Meow Jul 13th 2013 8:35 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10799163)
Indeed, but if they aren't Muslim then it's just another working day / month.

That's what we get told anyway..."you're not Muslim, why should you work less hours?"


Are we going around in circles here? The law states that shorter hours apply to all, so everyone is entitled to a shorter working day, whether fasting or not. What the employer says should be irrelevant as the law applies to all (non-government) employees.

BTW UAE Labour Law does not apply to domestic staff. Or 'domestic servant' as their visas say.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 8:44 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799178)
Are we going around in circles here?

All I did was play devils advocate, it's not always as simple as waving the law in your bosses face; you're potentially just marking your card.

Meow Jul 13th 2013 8:48 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10799196)
All I did was play devils advocate, it's not always as simple as waving the law in your bosses face; you're potentially just marking your card.

Yes, but that doesn't make it right.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right - for others as well as just for yourself.

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 8:52 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799204)
Yes, but that doesn't make it right.

Sometimes you have to stand up for what is right - for others as well as just for yourself.

Of course not. Frankly, I think we should use everyday as an afternoon for team building at Sega Republic.

britexpat76 Jul 13th 2013 9:03 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 
My guys Muslim, Christian or satanists all have 6 hours a day scheduled. Any driver, Tea boy etc who works more than that will get overtime. Sales staff (As Scamp is) who work extra hours to get a deal are reimbursed by the fact the extra hours worked generated them a deal and more bonus.

Meow Jul 13th 2013 9:14 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by britexpat76 (Post 10799225)
My guys Muslim, Christian or satanists all have 6 hours a day scheduled. Any driver, Tea boy etc who works more than that will get overtime. Sales staff (As Scamp is) who work extra hours to get a deal are reimbursed by the fact the extra hours worked generated them a deal and more bonus.


In my view that's as it should be. Anyone on commission can choose what they do and if you are in a well-paid senior role you use common sense.

For those of us who are self-employed, life goes on as normal. *strains to hear a lone violin* ;)

scrubbedexpat141 Jul 13th 2013 9:25 pm

Re: The Ramadan Arms
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10799238)
In my view that's as it should be. Anyone on commission can choose what they do and if you are in a well-paid senior role you use common sense.

For those of us who are self-employed, life goes on as normal. *strains to hear a lone violin* ;)

It's all irrelevant for me. I have a promotion to get.


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