The Burka
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Man disguises himself in a Burkha to evade police...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24826379
Quite handy really - few police would challenge a Burka wearer for fear of being called racist.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24826379
Quite handy really - few police would challenge a Burka wearer for fear of being called racist.
N.
He gave them the slip because they were incompetent clowns who were fooled by a slapstick act. Outwitted by a dumb animal. The oldest trick in the oldest book.
Who's to blame? The potential over-reaction by muslims. Brilliant.
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That baffles me too. It seems to me, one plays into the hand of the other.
I do find it incredibly strange when one woman tells another to cover as not to tempt a man. Just as much as when a man tells a woman to cover as not to tempt a man. And then....are gay women tempted by uncovered women?And how many people are tempted by covered women?
The possibilities of temptation seem endless....
I do find it incredibly strange when one woman tells another to cover as not to tempt a man. Just as much as when a man tells a woman to cover as not to tempt a man. And then....are gay women tempted by uncovered women?And how many people are tempted by covered women?
The possibilities of temptation seem endless....

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Yeah cops are really sensitive to being accused of racism, right?
He gave them the slip because they were incompetent clowns who were fooled by a slapstick act. Outwitted by a dumb animal. The oldest trick in the oldest book.
Who's to blame? The potential over-reaction by muslims. Brilliant.
He gave them the slip because they were incompetent clowns who were fooled by a slapstick act. Outwitted by a dumb animal. The oldest trick in the oldest book.
Who's to blame? The potential over-reaction by muslims. Brilliant.
It's kinda ironic how big abuses go on but small abuses due to their peculiar nature in regards to PR value will get media and organizations howling.
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Man disguises himself in a Burkha to evade police...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24826379
Quite handy really - few police would challenge a Burka wearer for fear of being called racist.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24826379
Quite handy really - few police would challenge a Burka wearer for fear of being called racist.
N.
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Ah yes - racism............ still, at least there are people who are prepared to fight it.............
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Who'd have thought it would be so hard to get legislation passed to allow police to demand the removal of face coverings for identification purposes?
The story behind this story is quite interesting too. Woman falsely accuses a policeman of forcibly removing her face covering when he pulled her over whilst she was driving. The conviction for the false accusation was quashed because the police couldn't positively identify her as being the accuser.
http://www.news.com.au/national/west...-1226751294560
The story behind this story is quite interesting too. Woman falsely accuses a policeman of forcibly removing her face covering when he pulled her over whilst she was driving. The conviction for the false accusation was quashed because the police couldn't positively identify her as being the accuser.
http://www.news.com.au/national/west...-1226751294560
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Here is a good page to explain it better than i can
http://misconceptions-about-islam.co...women-veil.htm
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For them it is a personal choice to wear it, they feel that it is necessary by Islam, I have had a discussion with them many times and pointed that IMHO it is not islamic, they feel that it protects their modesty, another one wears it to stop unwanted attention, for me it makes it worse as they guys like to see whats underneath it so its worse
Here is a good page to explain it better than i can
http://misconceptions-about-islam.co...women-veil.htm

Here is a good page to explain it better than i can
http://misconceptions-about-islam.co...women-veil.htm
That's what I mean. It's illogical to say that it's "necessary by Islam" then say it's a personal choice. It either is or isn't necessary by Islam. Nobody gets to say "It's personal choice for me but necessary by Islam for you" - which of course is the logical converse of your friend's argument.
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I know three personally and about half a dozen more through my circle and yes, they are sensitive to being accused of racism - which is why not enough is being done to tackle the problem of racist attacks against white people in the UK. http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race. "Senior police officers have admitted that 'political correctness' and the fear of discussing the issue have meant that race crime against white people goes under-reported. One chief constable has claimed that white, working-class men are more alienated than the Muslim community."
You are right that they were outwitted by an idiot in this case but sometimes the old tricks work the best. Good thing he wasn't carrying explosives and on his way to blow up a train or bus.
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You are right that they were outwitted by an idiot in this case but sometimes the old tricks work the best. Good thing he wasn't carrying explosives and on his way to blow up a train or bus.
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You assume he wasn't carrying anything and that he isn't planning any new horrific act of cowardice. I hope he gets acquainted with a bus's front bumper very soon.
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Rubbish, that’s is not the reason he is going to give you. He will you tell that those strange behaviours, like marching, or taking salutes, are to teach the soldiers discipline, a discipline that is very crucial for their survival!! There exist in life some human knowledge and notions that can never be acquired through reading books or listening to preaches, or attending colleges. The only way to acquire and comprehend them is through rituals, and discipline is one of them. Patience is just another example of such a notion that can solely be taught through rituals. Words on its own can never deliver the true meanings of patience
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Rubbish, that’s is not the reason he is going to give you. He will you tell that those strange behaviours, like marching, or taking salutes, are to teach the soldiers discipline, a discipline that is very crucial for their survival!! There exist in life some human knowledge and notions that can never be acquired through reading books or listening to preaches, or attending colleges. The only way to acquire and comprehend them is through rituals, and discipline is one of them. Patience is just another example of such a notion that can solely be taught through rituals. Words on its own can never deliver the true meanings of patience
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Rubbish, that’s is not the reason he is going to give you. He will you tell that those strange behaviours, like marching, or taking salutes, are to teach the soldiers discipline, a discipline that is very crucial for their survival!! There exist in life some human knowledge and notions that can never be acquired through reading books or listening to preaches, or attending colleges. The only way to acquire and comprehend them is through rituals, and discipline is one of them. Patience is just another example of such a notion that can solely be taught through rituals. Words on its own can never deliver the true meanings of patience
If rituals serve a purpose for Muslims then why does Islam chastise the rituals of other religions, surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
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a discipline that is very crucial for their survival!! There exist in life some human knowledge and notions that can never be acquired through reading books or listening to preaches, or attending colleges. The only way to acquire and comprehend them is through rituals, and discipline is one of them.
"A woman in a grocery store happens upon a grandfather and his poorly behaved 3 year-old grandson.
It's obvious to her that Grandad has his hands full with the child screaming for sweets in the sweets aisle, biscuits in the biscuit aisle; same for fruit, cereal and fizzy drinks in their respective aisles.
Meanwhile, Grandad is working his way around, saying in a controlled voice, "Easy, Albert, we won't be long -- easy, boy." Another outburst, and she hears Grandad calmly say, "It's okay, Albert, just a couple more minutes and we'll be out of here. Hang in there, boy."
At the checkout, the little terror is throwing items out of the cart, and Grandad again in a controlled voice says, "Albert, Albert, relax buddy, don't get upset. We'll be home in five minutes; stay cool, Albert."
Very impressed, the woman goes outside where Grandad is loading his groceries and the boy into the car. "You know, sir, it's none of my business, but you were amazing in there. I don't know how you did it. That whole time, you kept your composure, and no matter how loud and disruptive he got, you just calmly kept saying things would be okay. Albert is very lucky to have you as his grandad."
"Thanks, lady," said Grandad, "but I'm Albert -- the little terror's name is Steve."



