What was the final straw for you?
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:13 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I sold the lot and, for us, that was a mistake.... and its the same mistake many people will make.. and its lines like this "we wanted it to work and it has" that really piss off the people for who it hasn't 'worked'. I of course uprooted my family and dragged them to the other side of the world and all along didn't want it to work. 
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:14 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by northernbird
you mean you haven't been on a girlies night out in Subiaco yet? Its not the same as large city centres at home not by a long chalk but there are still some nice bars.
My BBQ went ok actually...got sloshed alittle
..went on trampoline and threw up...great eh!! 
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:16 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by 232Bar
Nope I was referring to a thread from a Country I lived in but went back to the UK from. The thread you are talking about in the forum ".......aimed at members who are moving to Australia and the expats already there" is the thread where a poster from 'Going back ...etc' came over specifically to start an argument, an act supported by your good self. I refer you to post 182 in this thread. Most people (myself included) couldn't give a toss that you want to go back, or why you want to go back, but don't get self-righteous about it when you were instrumental in starting the argument in the Barbie in the first place.
You sound like a really lovely person, ever so warm and friendly.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:16 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by 232Bar
I'd (sensibly) have to disagree. I'd have found a bigger financial burden if I'd kept our place in the UK. We didnt' have a big mortgage, but it would still have been money we had to cover. It's ok talking about renting it out etc, but what about all the other details. Does it count as foreign income, if you sell it later and bring money over here, do you get taxed on it??? etc etc. I (and this is "I", not anyone else) much prefered to have the money in my pocket when we came over to take care of any unemployment period, get a car each, pay rent etc etc. We have been fortunate, we wanted it to work and it has, both have good jobs, bought our own place (unfortunatlely with a much bigger mortgage than the UK but still affordable), child settled ok (but we didn't wrap him in cotton wool about it - he took it as change of life and that was that). It's no skin off my nose that anyone wants to go back to the UK. Maybe at some point we will - who knows. But on the basis of you've made a decision to leave, fair play to you - don't make someones decision to come that much harder by posting (wind-up) threads about not selling houses. There have been many sensible discussions on the pro's and con's of it - condoning someone doing it as a piss-take is almost the same as doing it yourself. (I hasten to add 'you' is a generalisation, not aimed at an individual, before you all jump on me)
Fair enough. But take a real look at the sheer number of posters on here that want to go back and truly regret selling their house. (i didn't have a house in the UK btw, I left home at 23 and came straight here, and lo and behold managed to hack it without the aid of any family or internet).
I'm a numbers man, I'm paid to interpret corporate commercial contracts, and protect the company I work for from financial risk. If I applied the models I use at work to acertain the risk factor here, I'd say that based on the numbers of ppl in this forum that regret (and they are only the ones that are active here) selling their house, then there are bound to be a % of the newbies that in 1-3yrs will be going home.
I was in the UK for 3mths earlier this year and the amount of rent that landlords charge and throw in the fact that tenants pay council tax and water rates there, it's damn hard to see how it would be a struggle. Unless the first thing when you do when you get here is buy a house. And that is the reason ppl get trapped.
Ppl need to study yield before blindly buying, or selling places. I think the advice is good, rent here first, make sure you like it, work out your balance scorecard at regular intervals and weigh up.
People don't tend to do that, unfortunately.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:17 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
I sold the lot and, for us, that was a mistake.... and its the same mistake many people will make.. and its lines like this "we wanted it to work and it has" that really piss off the people for who it hasn't 'worked'. I of course uprooted my family and dragged them to the other side of the world and all along didn't want it to work.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:18 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by LouiseD
Hmm absolutely no-one who posts on the other forum ever winds up people here do they? And by the way, have you been living here so long that you've lost your sense of humour or did you never have one in the first place?
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:23 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Rosie Cheeks
You are wrong there, I had absolutely no intention of starting an argument whatsoever. My advice to not sell your house if you can avoid it is solid advice, as I am sure many would agree. You have taken things totally out of context, and I am guessing that you haven't read all the posts on this thread in the lead up to post 182.
You sound like a really lovely person, ever so warm and friendly.
You sound like a really lovely person, ever so warm and friendly.
Quote "I'm too much of a chicken, mischievous, but still a chicken. It looks a bit scary on the "other side", I might turn into a zombie.
my vote goes to toandfro, they seem like a brave sort, the zombie vibes won't affect toandfro, he (he is a he isn't he?) is made of stearner stuff than that."
Ok - no balls to do it yourself, but certainly at the forefront of encouraging it. Might not seem warm and friendly to you, but at least I'm not a coward
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:24 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by 232Bar
- don't make someones decision to come that much harder by posting (wind-up) threads about not selling houses. There have been many sensible discussions on the pro's and con's of it - condoning someone doing it as a piss-take is almost the same as doing it yourself. (I hasten to add 'you' is a generalisation, not aimed at an individual, before you all jump on me)
I and many others have committed financial suicide by selling up and moving here and if I can stop one other person doing the same then I'll be a happier person. I would advise anyone to keep their home for at least 6 months until they know exactly what it's like here and not what the Australian Government want us to think it's like.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:26 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
oh dear whats happening here 
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:26 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by 232Bar
I didn't think it was called having a sense of humour to purposely go into a different forum to start an argument. However, at least one of you did have the balls to do it unlike some you who just wanted to shout from the sidelines. I direct you to post 177 on this thread.
What sidelines are you referring to? This is our game here, yours is over there. I applaud the poster for trying to protect fellow Brits from making the same mistake they did. Perhaps the Aussie way is just to sit and laugh at other's misfortunes?
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:29 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Gibbo
So it was your mistake! No one asked you to sell everything. You took the risk and it didn't work out. It's no ones fault but your own and something you have to accept and live with. So you go back to UK and have to start again. That's life.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:30 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by FPM
Fair enough. But take a real look at the sheer number of posters on here that want to go back and truly regret selling their house. (i didn't have a house in the UK btw, I left home at 23 and came straight here, and lo and behold managed to hack it without the aid of any family or internet).
I'm a numbers man, I'm paid to interpret corporate commercial contracts, and protect the company I work for from financial risk. If I applied the models I use at work to acertain the risk factor here, I'd say that based on the numbers of ppl in this forum that regret (and they are only the ones that are active here) selling their house, then there are bound to be a % of the newbies that in 1-3yrs will be going home.
I was in the UK for 3mths earlier this year and the amount of rent that landlords charge and throw in the fact that tenants pay council tax and water rates there, it's damn hard to see how it would be a struggle. Unless the first thing when you do when you get here is buy a house. And that is the reason ppl get trapped.
Ppl need to study yield before blindly buying, or selling places. I think the advice is good, rent here first, make sure you like it, work out your balance scorecard at regular intervals and weigh up.
People don't tend to do that, unfortunately.
I'm a numbers man, I'm paid to interpret corporate commercial contracts, and protect the company I work for from financial risk. If I applied the models I use at work to acertain the risk factor here, I'd say that based on the numbers of ppl in this forum that regret (and they are only the ones that are active here) selling their house, then there are bound to be a % of the newbies that in 1-3yrs will be going home.
I was in the UK for 3mths earlier this year and the amount of rent that landlords charge and throw in the fact that tenants pay council tax and water rates there, it's damn hard to see how it would be a struggle. Unless the first thing when you do when you get here is buy a house. And that is the reason ppl get trapped.
Ppl need to study yield before blindly buying, or selling places. I think the advice is good, rent here first, make sure you like it, work out your balance scorecard at regular intervals and weigh up.
People don't tend to do that, unfortunately.
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:31 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
..and I don't remember saying anything different. Yes it was my mistake and yes its no ones fault but my own.. all I offered was advice, and that advice was if you can do the move without selling up, then don't sell up. That advice somehow seems to offend the Oz is God crew.. I can't see why
so good for us i say...
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:33 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by FPM
Christ on a bike, make up your mind. First you attempt to chastise a poster for being over there, now you are lauding them?
What sidelines are you referring to? This is our game here, yours is over there. I applaud the poster for trying to protect fellow Brits from making the same mistake they did. Perhaps the Aussie way is just to sit and laugh at other's misfortunes?
What sidelines are you referring to? This is our game here, yours is over there. I applaud the poster for trying to protect fellow Brits from making the same mistake they did. Perhaps the Aussie way is just to sit and laugh at other's misfortunes?
Nov 10th 2006 | 9:34 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by 232Bar
We rented for 6 months before we bought - didn't rush into it (in our opinion) and still feel we made the right choices. What a lot of people don't seem to get is that there is no right or wrong. You make your decison based on factors at the time. You live with the consequences of that decision whether they be good or bad. Everyone is different, everyone has a view and a circumstance that is different to others. Personally, (and once again, I hasten to add personally) a financial model doesn't influence me on whether to sell my house or not - I/we just felt it was right to do so. If that turns out wrong in the long run, we'll live by that decision. Tears and spilt milk won't come into it. We could sell here and move back and get a house similar to what we left there.
