What was the final straw for you?
Nov 13th 2006 | 7:53 pm
#361
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by FPM
You miss my point. You had Thatcher, Ronny Raygun, Whitlam, Hawke, it didn't make any difference. Sign of the times. Australia has recently had record low interest, so has Britain and they still both have diametrically opposed political parties (albeit reversed than before). It's more to do with global influences rather than any local economic genius. All parties take the credit for the good times then don the Teflon suit when things go bad. Howard and Costello are no different there.
Nov 13th 2006 | 8:03 pm
#362
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Gibbo
I didn't, just think the your argument is a bit too simplictic and didn't want to carry this on as I feel we've hijacked this thread long enough.
Nov 14th 2006 | 12:53 am
#363
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
$ 1,782,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,737,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,362,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$611,700,000,000 Australia GDP
Figures are a few years old but not much has changed. So not quite bigger than France and Germany combined. !!
$ 1,737,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,362,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$611,700,000,000 Australia GDP
Figures are a few years old but not much has changed. So not quite bigger than France and Germany combined. !!
$ 1,782,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,737,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,362,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,611,700,000,000 Australia GDP
Nov 14th 2006 | 6:14 am
#364
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Perhaps if you line the digits up correctly you'll see the real difference. More like close to a third of the UK GDP and almost a quarter the size of the Germany GDP.
$ 1,782,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,737,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,362,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,611,700,000,000 Australia GDP
$ 1,782,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,737,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,362,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,611,700,000,000 Australia GDP
$ 1,830,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,816,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,504,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,640,100,000,000 Australia GDP
Per capita:
$ 30,300 UK
$ 29,900 France
$ 30,400 Germany
$ 31,900 Australia
So if you share the wealth they're all about the same.
Nov 14th 2006 | 9:17 am
#365
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Cam1977
2005 figures:
$ 1,830,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,816,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,504,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,640,100,000,000 Australia GDP
Per capita:
$ 30,300 UK
$ 29,900 France
$ 30,400 Germany
$ 31,900 Australia
So if you share the wealth they're all about the same.
$ 1,830,000,000,000 UK GDP
$ 1,816,000,000,000 France GDP
$ 2,504,000,000,000 Germany GDP
$ 0,640,100,000,000 Australia GDP
Per capita:
$ 30,300 UK
$ 29,900 France
$ 30,400 Germany
$ 31,900 Australia
So if you share the wealth they're all about the same.
Nov 14th 2006 | 9:30 am
#366
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Wasn't commenting on the numbers themselves, but more on the failure by 'creature' to read them correctly.
Nov 14th 2006 | 9:50 am
#367
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Wasn't commenting on the numbers themselves, but more on the failure by 'creature' to read them correctly.
Nov 14th 2006 | 9:54 am
#368
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Cam1977
Per capita:
$ 30,300 UK
$ 29,900 France
$ 30,400 Germany
$ 31,900 Australia
So if you share the wealth they're all about the same.
$ 30,300 UK
$ 29,900 France
$ 30,400 Germany
$ 31,900 Australia
So if you share the wealth they're all about the same.
Nov 14th 2006 | 11:18 am
#369
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
In what way did I fail to read them correctly? My comment of 'not quite as big as France and Germany combined' was a sarcastic one..
Nov 14th 2006 | 9:51 pm
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by rodders39
I always think that's a bit of a meaningless statistic... On that basis Luxembourg is the wealthiest country with Norway in 3rd place... Huh...?
The problem with GDP overall is that it's a bit rubbery. For example, if you had a country where half the population sued the other half for a million bucks each, the GDP would be huge even if the country generated nothing in terms of income.
Nov 14th 2006 | 11:52 pm
#371
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus
In what way did I fail to read them correctly? My comment of 'not quite as big as France and Germany combined' was a sarcastic one..
Nov 15th 2006 | 8:15 am
#372
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Cam1977
What it means is that while Luxembourg isn't the wealthiest country, Luxembourgers are (on average) the wealthiest people.
The problem with GDP overall is that it's a bit rubbery. For example, if you had a country where half the population sued the other half for a million bucks each, the GDP would be huge even if the country generated nothing in terms of income.
The problem with GDP overall is that it's a bit rubbery. For example, if you had a country where half the population sued the other half for a million bucks each, the GDP would be huge even if the country generated nothing in terms of income.
GDP itself gives a much better idea of the overall situation though. GDP per Capita is really distorting. You get small countries with dubious (or different) financial practices that get close to the top due to their heavy cash flows through their systems... In the top 20 at the moment we have Bermuda, Luxembourg, Cayman Islands, Jersey & Guernsey.
Nov 16th 2006 | 7:25 pm
#373
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Originally Posted by Cam1977
What it means is that while Luxembourg isn't the wealthiest country, Luxembourgers are (on average) the wealthiest people.
The problem with GDP overall is that it's a bit rubbery. For example, if you had a country where half the population sued the other half for a million bucks each, the GDP would be huge even if the country generated nothing in terms of income.
The problem with GDP overall is that it's a bit rubbery. For example, if you had a country where half the population sued the other half for a million bucks each, the GDP would be huge even if the country generated nothing in terms of income.
not that it maters much ,as it makes no difference to the way I feel about thing's and it certanly isn't the final straw for me
Nov 16th 2006 | 10:36 pm
#374
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
Well all this is over my head. All I know is I'm worse off here than in the UK. At home I could holiday in the best hotels and eat in the best restaurants - here I can't even pay the flippin phone bill.
Nov 17th 2006 | 12:57 pm
#375
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Re: What was the final straw for you?
I have read some cracking posts on here and good luck to you all in whatever you have done or are about to do.
