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Old Apr 8th 2010, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
I've heard that statement many times, I think there are a few reasons people back home think we are NUTS.

Many Brit's look at other countries and think everyone has it better than they do, when they look at America they think Cheaper food, Cheaper gas/petrol, More sun, Bigger Cheaper homes, Cheaper Clothes/Levi's etc, Big cars, Numerous cars per family, Motorhomes, Boats, the list goes on etc.

I think Brit's watch American TV programs and think we live the life they see on the telly, they don't realize these things are expensive and out of many peoples financial reach.

I don't think America broadcasts the down side of living in America, why would they, I'm talking about the homeless and poor, the unemployment, the Drug problem, High murder rate, High bankruptcy rate, Earthquakes and other natural disasters, the lack of vacation time, I could go on, America usually shows the good America and Brit's focus on that.

There are many good things about America and the people have always made me welcome here, I will never say any different, still everything in life has trade offs.

If Brits only had two weeks vacation per year how would they feel? many people I know have only two weeks vacation, some just take the money and work their vacations.

Healthcare, sorry guys its my favorite hate, how many Brits living in the UK are stuck in a job they hate because it comes with great healthcare benefits?, Not anyone I know,

How many Brits don't have healthcare coverage?, and how many will risk losing their home if they get sick and cant afford medical bills?, I don't know any Brits that would trade their heath coverage for mine.

I'm with you Mrs Sully, Over 30 years and I'm still a fish out of water, I want to feel like a normal person in what I think are normal surroundings, I want to feel permanent for once in my life, I've always felt temporary here.

You really cant expect people back home to understand our issues unless they have walked in our shoes, I bet they would be surprised to see how many people are returning home from Australia, Canada and the USA.
Thank you so much Fish and Chips I really needed that today. You know, one one of those down days
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[QUOTE=Mrs Sully;8479732]Isn't that 'Let's stay, Let's Leave' just the worst time. There is so much that goes with it, 'shall we redecorate to sell or just leave it and travel', it even effects attitudes to shopping because if we decide to leave there is no point in buying anything new.

Ive been living like that for the last 30 years, Huhhhh I buy stuff with dual volatge when possible just incase, many times I do without, knowing I will have to sell which feels like I'm throwing money away that I should save.

I live my life in a state of "WHAT IF", I save boxes because I know in my heart I will be moving again at some point, My wife cant imagine us without a garage full of empty boxes, OK its not full, but I have my fair share piled up, plus wooden trunks. Im 54 and Ive lived in 16 locations since I was born, the last 8 years in my present home, Id like to settle down.
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Originally Posted by Mrs Sully

Ugghh just horrible, it is the reason why I admire all the courageous friends on this forum who have taken the leap of faith. I keeping asking the Universe to let me know when is the right time, I'm beginning to realize that my heart is the only gauge. It's nice to know that I'm not alone with all this 'push pull stuff'
You certainly are not alone by any means.

Follow your gut feeling or your heart, it will guide you.

If you are going to do it now is the time, Why wait?, why not enjoy what life has to offer, we have to live for today, I recently lost both parents, it made me realise how precious life is, every single day is valuable, Believe me when I say you should get on with life whatever that may be, I think you already may know what you want, its just a very big decesion.

I want to move and the thought overwhelms me at times, but I see folks older than myself making the move and I know if they can do it I can too.

If you want to go back and its mentally overwhelming Id divide everything in my mind into small steps, it might make things seem much easier, I think others have given excellent advice, and that is to start going through things box by box, closet by closet, room by room, deciding what is important to you and what you really dont need anymore, that might be a good start, its a good thing to do even if you arent moving back, we all store stuff that we wont really need again.

I have two homes to sell before I can go, even then it will feel awful leaving my sisters and their families behind, Even so I know I cant stay here, The financial deck is stacked against me, in these hard times I'm not really making it and costs are going up all the time, I have faced the fact that I will go broke if I dont leave at some point. I just want to be happy and content.

Ed would be the perfect example of a hard struggle to move back and now look at her, she doenst give in, her positive Attitiude is wonderful.

Im not telling you to go, again I say follow your gut feeling or your heart, do what it tells YOU.

You say you are having a down day, When Im like that I try to reflect on days when Im sick and feel so awful, that puts it all into perspective, a down day can sometimes be changed by positive thoughts, a sick day is just a loss, If yesterday was a good day realise nothing has really changed except the calendar.

Good Luck to you, Treat yourself, turn a bad day into a good one.
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Hi everyone, here we are again. Just got back from another walk, half way up Rosemary Topping (the local highpoint near Guisborough). Must report that we didn't walk too far today because I have a sore throat, and am a little bit sniffly - too much running around enjoying life maybe???? But the daffodils are really gorgeous now and it did manage to get up to 12 C at one time, with a beautiful blue sunny sky. On the trail we saw a frog. "Froggie would a wooing go", a female carrying THREE males on her back. Well, let's say they were hanging on for dear life despite her attempts to walk away from them!!! Actually, now I think of it, it was a toad, not a frog!!!

TT and Mrs Sully - today coffee with the girls was at my sister's so we had hot cross buns. I think I have eaten more this one Easter than I have my whole life!!! After the walk (only 4 of us this time), we were of course invited back in for tea and biscuits (Jaffa cakes and gingersnaps) at one house. I really don't see why the English complain about their standard of living and cost of living. Compared with the US, who are supposed to be superior in every way they are doing very well. Every house I have been into has been beautifully decorated, with modern furnishings, and plenty of food being offered. This morning my sister and I loaded up the shopping cart with double of lots of food items (on special offer), some exotic fruits like kiwi fruit and pineapple, plus an electric toothbrush for me, and it still only came to £70. I can't say I have found anything to be any higher in price than it would be in the US. It's on a par with or costs less. It is still funny to see eggs not refrigerated by the way. As for Cumberland sausages, well yes apparently they can be bought here and are very nice, but my sister (half German like me) prefers Bratwurst from Aldi supermarket.

John - my sister laughed about taking in a lodger, I am sure if you came over and dropped in though, she would be only too pleased to entertain you!!! She thrives on company!!!

Mrs Sully - which crossword are you doing? My brother-in-law does one most evenings (from the paper) and has all kinds of encyclopedias here in case he gets stuck!!! Also he watches University Challenge on TV, even though he never attended college he seems to know some of the answers to the questions!!! I don't know how the educational system is these days compared with when I grew up here, but i still maintain it is better than the American one!

Tried to sign up for the dentist today but my sister's dentists are not taking new patients. Have to look around, seems that it is hard to find someone. Still waiting for my password so I can activate my debit card, and still waiting for a password so I can access my account online. Those who are not fortunate to be coming back to live with family - make sure you carry plenty of cash or have another card to draw money with. This has been going on since before Easter now.

Oh well, must dash, another evening visiting friends......Ovaltine night!! I apologize if I have left anyone out, please don't take it personally. I am thinking of you all....wishing you all well.
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Living in Britain does have its advantages, many of which are more of a blessing than many native born Brits still living here would ever think of acknowledging as being something be be grateful for......it is usually a trait within the British character to accentuate the negatives and overlook the postives about anything and everything really.

Last Wednesday morning 07/04/10 my partner went to see his doctor at 10:40hrs as he had a problem with his right eye - he had a sort of black circle all around his line of vision, which had suddenly appeared the previous evening. His doctor examined him and then contacted a specialist in a local Medical Eye Centre as it seemed the trouble was due to some kind of "slicing off" (to use the doctor's words) within the retina. He had been home only for a couple of hours when the phone rang and it was the Medical Eye Centre informing him that an appointment had been arranged for him at 10:00hrs this morning Thursday 09/04/10. He was told he would be kept in overnight, and after a thorough examination he was operated on at 14:30hrs today under local anaesthetic. He has since telephoned me twice to say he is doing fine, and is having medication, and has been told to rest, not to read, and tonight he must attempt to sleep while lying on his stomach. He was told not to eat anything at breakfast or lunch, but two hours or so after the operation he had tea, and now dinner, and will see the specialist again tomorrow morning, and very likely allowed to come home after lunch, and I will pick him up at 14:00hrs tomorrow Friday 09/04/10.

All paid for out of the standard NIC deducted from our monthly salaries therefore nobody at the hospital even mentioning payment or whatever....none of that apparent hassle over health insurance policies here.

And to make things even better the weather in Britain is now getting a lot warmer, the sky is clear and blue, the sunshine was really warm today and all the daffodils are out all over the place, and the magnolias in the parks are all budding into bloom. The only cloud on the horizon is some bloke from Dunfermline by the name of Gordon Brown........but even there, his PM days may well be soon over........praise be!

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Originally Posted by Mrs Sully
Thank you so much Fish and Chips I really needed that today. You know, one one of those down days
Hey, I had one of them yesterday too, must be something in the air! Totally pi$$ed off as soon as I got out of bed. It got marginally better towards the end with the news of a new impending grandchild but this morning it is just as bad if not worse. Bah humbug!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Welcome back Shelly,I was wondering what had happened to you, Get well soon.
Thanks Fish n Chips- I am taking things slowly- hoping to drive again next week!!
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[QUOTE=Lothianlad;8482308]Living in Britain does have its advantages, many of which are more of a blessing than many native born Brits still living here would ever think of acknowledging as being something be be grateful for......it is usually a trait within the British character to accentuate the negatives and overlook the postives about anything and everything really.

Last Wednesday morning 07/04/10 my partner went to see his doctor at 10:40hrs as he had a problem with his right eye - he had a sort of black circle all around his line of vision, which had suddenly appeared the previous evening. His doctor examined him and then contacted a specialist in a local Medical Eye Centre as it seemed the trouble was due to some kind of "slicing off" (to use the doctor's words) within the retina. He had been home only for a couple of hours when the phone rang and it was the Medical Eye Centre informing him that an appointment had been arranged for him at 10:00hrs this morning Thursday 09/04/10. He was told he would be kept in overnight, and after a thorough examination he was operated on at 14:30hrs today under local anaesthetic. He has since telephoned me twice to say he is doing fine, and is having medication, and has been told to rest, not to read, and tonight he must attempt to sleep while lying on his stomach. He was told not to eat anything at breakfast or lunch, but two hours or so after the operation he had tea, and now dinner, and will see the specialist again tomorrow morning, and very likely allowed to come home after lunch, and I will pick him up at 14:00hrs tomorrow Friday 09/04/10.

All paid for out of the standard NIC deducted from our monthly salaries therefore nobody at the hospital even mentioning payment or whatever....none of that apparent hassle over health insurance policies here.


Thanks Lothoianlad your story made me feel so good.

Many Americans wouldnt believe that this really happens in the UK, it must be a one off situation, Huhhhh We are forever told about the poor service and weeks of waiting for an appointment in the UK, its just the normal brainwashing we get here, Of course not all Americans believe the media and political lies.
I can't understand why people are so easily led and full of fear for a one payer system, as my old saying goes, Common Sense Isn't So Common Anymore.
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Living in Britain does have its advantages, many of which are more of a blessing than many native born Brits still living here would ever think of acknowledging as being something be be grateful for......it is usually a trait within the British character to accentuate the negatives and overlook the postives about anything and everything really.

Last Wednesday morning 07/04/10 my partner went to see his doctor at 10:40hrs as he had a problem with his right eye - he had a sort of black circle all around his line of vision, which had suddenly appeared the previous evening. His doctor examined him and then contacted a specialist in a local Medical Eye Centre as it seemed the trouble was due to some kind of "slicing off" (to use the doctor's words) within the retina. He had been home only for a couple of hours when the phone rang and it was the Medical Eye Centre informing him that an appointment had been arranged for him at 10:00hrs this morning Thursday 09/04/10. He was told he would be kept in overnight, and after a thorough examination he was operated on at 14:30hrs today under local anaesthetic. He has since telephoned me twice to say he is doing fine, and is having medication, and has been told to rest, not to read, and tonight he must attempt to sleep while lying on his stomach. He was told not to eat anything at breakfast or lunch, but two hours or so after the operation he had tea, and now dinner, and will see the specialist again tomorrow morning, and very likely allowed to come home after lunch, and I will pick him up at 14:00hrs tomorrow Friday 09/04/10.

All paid for out of the standard NIC deducted from our monthly salaries therefore nobody at the hospital even mentioning payment or whatever....none of that apparent hassle over health insurance policies here.


Thanks Lothoianlad your story made me feel so good.

Many Americans wouldnt believe that this really happens in the UK, it must be a one off situation, Huhhhh We are forever told about the poor service and weeks of waiting for an appointment in the UK, its just the normal brainwashing we get here, Of course not all Americans believe the media and political lies.
I can't understand why people are so easily led and full of fear for a one payer system, as my old saying goes, Common Sense Isn't So Common Anymore.


I get so cross when our best friends who are Americans, say "oh no you have socialised medicine!!" as if its something really bad.

I had emergency surgery March 6th in Kingston Ontario and it saved my life. So my experience has been a positive one and I even have a nurse now I am home , every other day.

In the UK, its definitely a post code lottery- my old home town of Poole has excellent healthcare services, and yet another hospital only 10 miles away in Bournemouth has a reputation of if you go in there, you will likely "not come out" or "end up with a serious infection".

I had cancer back in 2000 and I was treated in Poole within 1 week of my diagnosis. My late mother had a brain tumour and within 48 hours of its discovery had been rushed to Southampton neuro Unit and had been operated on.

Like anything, there is good and bad on all sides of it!
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Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
Follow your Gut Feeling Dear, it will tell you what to do, What can be harder in life then what you have already been through, Nothing can compare to that, I wont deny money is important in this life, but people first, money comes second. GOOD LUCK to you as always.
Hello Fish n Chips, you are so kind, you have no idea what your comments and support are doing for me . i love this site! Always bear with me , if I seem to reply not as quick as I would like. Today I worked out in my yard, started at 9am and by 11am it was so blooming hot, I had to stop, I rember a day in the UK when I could work all day outside.
Now my eldest son , has said he would prefer to go for a vacation, to see what it's like. He must think money grows on trees. I told him he could not have his allowance for about 5 yrs, he said , "Oh I suppose we could just go then"( he he) Oh the power of money!!! I am having a yard sale next Sat. to start my going back fund. I still get confused and conflicted , but at the end of the day, I read your messages and it gives me hope and the get up and go. Hope you have had a lovely day today. Have a cup of tea for me . tiamobrit!
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Like anything, there is good and bad on all sides of it!

Yes, and the good in the UK far outweighs the bad when it comes to healthcare.

I hear certain politicians talking about 'socialized medicine' as if it's the worst thing in the world, and saying that Britain doesn't take care of its old people, and I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

My gran in the UK is in her 90s and has Alzheimers. She's getting amazing care, including social service visits 3 times a day so she can stay in her own home. My MIL broke her hip a few months ago and got unbelievable care. The fire department even came round to install extra smoke detectors at the instruction of the hospital! It seems because she couldn't move, regulations said she needed extra protection. That's just amazing!

I don't care what Americans say about their 'great' healthcare system. I can't wait to get home to the NHS and get rid of the $1,400 per month healthcare premium costs.
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Originally Posted by Fish n Chips 56
I've heard that statement many times, I think there are a few reasons people back home think we are NUTS.


I'm with you Mrs Sully, Over 30 years and I'm still a fish out of water, I want to feel like a normal person in what I think are normal surroundings, I want to feel permanent for once in my life, I've always felt temporary here.
Absolutely understand - been here 28 years and still feel as if I am on a temporary posting to a foreign country!
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Absolutely understand - been here 28 years and still feel as if I am on a temporary posting to a foreign country!
I agree completely, that's why I left after 26 years!!! Even though I am going to Malta, for who knows how long, I still feel that I am home, because it is part of Europe and there is a Marks and Spencer there and BBC on TV!!! I think it's a matter of culture as well as distance that makes you feel you are in a foreign land.

BTW did anyone hear the news of the German woman and daughter who took the dead father to the airport in Liverpool to board a flight to Berlin? They claimed he was asleep!!! He'd been dead at least 5 hours!!! They definitely knew he was dead because he fell over trying to get him in the taxi on the way there and the taxi driver had to help them!!! That was the story in the news this week, along with, of course, the election date being announced and the fact that the candidates are going to have live debates like in the US. My sister's friends are all complaining that now they will have to listen to all the election news for the next month. How lucky they are!!! In the US it's a year's worth of news!!!

OK guys, what are we going to do about Rodney, have we uncovered every stone to find out what has happened to him???

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Just came across the coolest website. It explains electricity around the world and which plugs are required. Thought it might be useful for all those wondering what might or might not work in the UK.
http://users.telenet.be/worldstandar...ty.htm#plugs_c

Also, just watched on TV a cat being rescued out of a tree by firemen!!! Unheard of in the States, at least where I lived because I once asked them to save my cat who ran up a tree and wouldn't come down. I was told they don't do that any more! Good old England!!!!
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Yes, I am worried too. Not like him to be absent and I don't recall him saying anything about going away. Does anyone have any ideas???
Hello Anna & Taffy & mrs Sully and everyone else that has been worried about me for the last 2 weeks that I havent posted, but you see I took a turn for the worst Im afraid health wise, Im going to be alright in about a month they tell me, I cant return to work though for another month,
I have been in the hospital for the last 12 days, I only just got released by the doctors late yesterday evening, I am so druged up on meds right now from all the intravenous drugs that was being fed into my body 24/7 plus injections every day, and 5 pills & capsules I had to swallow 3 times a day,
So for this first post at least please forgive me all my friends out there that I will have to keep this one just a brief rundown to you all to explain what happened to me,
That day when I last posted 13 days ago that night I felt fine, went to bed slept through the night and when I woke up the next morning and tried to get out of bed and I couldn't stand my legs didn't work, I fell to the floor flat on my stomach, I couldn't get up, luckily my phone was right there by my bedside, I phoned my very best friend Art told him what happened he drove over to my place right away, my legs & feet were swollen up so bad, he was going to just drive me to the nearest hospital but there was no way of getting me down the 15 steps to the ground floor outside my apartment as I was not able to put my feet to floor, so he called 911 and an ambulance came and took me to hospital on stretcher, no waiting at hospital, Doctor saw me right away saw my condition and decided to admit me once a room became available which was not long, hooked me up to an IV pole feeding me fluids and two different types of anti biotics, gave me daily shots of morphine, and each morning injected something into my stomach they said to stop any possible blood clots happening thats what they were worried about cause they can be dangerous, took samples of blood from me 3 times a day constantly checking to see whats going on with the blood cells i suppose,
On the third day they took me to the lab and they stuck an injection needle into both knees and drew out three tubes of this dark green liquid puss from each knee, took 3 days for them to test it and found that there was no infection in the puss, anyway it wasn't until the day before they released me to go home that they finally found out what had caused all this,
blood vessels burst in the back of both knees, diagnosis cellulitis and bacterial infection, they released me yesterday evening, Doc gave me prescription for the same ant biotics that i was given in Hospital from the IV drip, but these of course are in capsule form, and also Ibuprofen 800 mill for the pain and to help bring the swelling down,
I thank God that I have this great wonderful friend Arthur, dont know what I would have done without him,
Anyway it turned out I suppose to not have been too serious condition for me, but it could have been,
The hospital gave me a brand new complimentary walker to take home too which I dont have to return, I couldn't walk around my apartment right now if I didn't have that, there wonderful you just grab hold of it and it just moves along on its wheels, and you cant fall over cause you keep your balance and it surrounds you,
Well thats that for me, again to all my friends out there again you are all the very very best of people, you are all so caring and wonderful, how so very fortunate we all are that this thread was set up so we can all care and help each other through all our good and bad days,
I feel privileged and honored to know you all,
I only had time to read the last 3 pages but soon I will read all that I have missed and catch up,
Love you all,
Rodney.
Really cant wait until November 30 when my Jet plane takes off to heathrow,
Im gonna kiss that ground,
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