On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 05:27:54 -0500, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz)
wrote:

    >Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> [email protected] wrote:
    >>> [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>>> [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>> [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>>>>> But the prices in UK supermarkets aren't high, they're lower than most
    >>>>>> supermarkets I've visited in other countries - and as a
    >>>>>> supermarketphilic I tend to look.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> UK supermarket prices are higher than in NL,
    >>>> Really, that wasn't my experience a couple of months ago when I was
    >>>> last there,
    >>> What did you buy? Where did you shop?
    >> I didn't buy anything, as I say, I'm a supermarketphilic, so wonder
    >> around looking at prices/ambience etc. I think it was a konmar last
    >> time - in Enschede.
    >How's this: Some things are cheaper in the UK, some thing are cheaper in NL.
    >I can easily see how someone could come away with either impression
    >depending on what they're shopping for.

Eurostats statistics for 2003 are at
http://www.finfacts.com/euro.htm

http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/eds2003.pdf

but can we really trust an organisation that recently lost Wales?
Yes indeed we can :-)
--
Martin

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >Eurostats statistics for 2003 are at
    >http://www.finfacts.com/euro.htm
    >http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/eds2003.pdf
    >but can we really trust an organisation that recently lost Wales?
    >Yes indeed we can :-)

Showing UK at 103, and NL at 106 for Food (100 is the average for the
EU) Which is all much of the muchness and both are pretty cheap for
the "old" EU.

And it shows just how Expensive the UK and then even more so
scandinavia are for alcohol and tobacco! Romania is the place for a
cheap smoke and Bulgaria for a cheap drink.

Cheers,

Jim.

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:55:09 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    >On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>Eurostats statistics for 2003 are at
    >>http://www.finfacts.com/euro.htm
    >>http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/eds2003.pdf
    >>but can we really trust an organisation that recently lost Wales?
    >>Yes indeed we can :-)
    >Showing UK at 103, and NL at 106 for Food (100 is the average for the
    >EU) Which is all much of the muchness and both are pretty cheap for
    >the "old" EU.

NL supermarket food prices are 5% down on a year ago.

    >And it shows just how Expensive the UK and then even more so
    >scandinavia are for alcohol and tobacco! Romania is the place for a
    >cheap smoke and Bulgaria for a cheap drink.

Overall
UK is in group 1 @ 121
NL is in group 2 @103
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Martin

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:58:56 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:55:09 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 12:42:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>>Eurostats statistics for 2003 are at
    >>>http://www.finfacts.com/euro.htm
    >>>http://www.finfacts.ie/Private/bestprice/eds2003.pdf
    >>>but can we really trust an organisation that recently lost Wales?
    >>>Yes indeed we can :-)
    >>Showing UK at 103, and NL at 106 for Food (100 is the average for the
    >>EU) Which is all much of the muchness and both are pretty cheap for
    >>the "old" EU.
    >NL supermarket food prices are 5% down on a year ago.

As are the UK's - food inflation is negative across much of Europe.

Jim.

Ken Wheatley <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

    > On 24 Oct 2004 03:57:49 -0700, [email protected] (PJ O'Donovan) wrote:
    >
    >>Excerpt UK Guardian today:
    > The guardian doesn't publish on a Sunday. And I can't find any sign of
    > this in yesterday's copy either.
    >
    > So, where is this stuff you're banging on about??

It's in Charlie Brooker's TV column in the Guide (weekly entertainment
supplement for those who don't know), which is generally humorous and
ironic in tone. Those who seem to be so outraged either don't realise this
or seriously need to get a life.

Andrew

Miguel Cruz <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Jim Ley <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > [email protected] wrote:
    > >> [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    > >>> [email protected] wrote:
    > >>>> [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    > >>>>> But the prices in UK supermarkets aren't high, they're lower than most
    > >>>>> supermarkets I've visited in other countries - and as a
    > >>>>> supermarketphilic I tend to look.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> UK supermarket prices are higher than in NL,
    > >>>
    > >>> Really, that wasn't my experience a couple of months ago when I was
    > >>> last there,
    > >>
    > >> What did you buy? Where did you shop?
    > >
    > > I didn't buy anything, as I say, I'm a supermarketphilic, so wonder
    > > around looking at prices/ambience etc. I think it was a konmar last
    > > time - in Enschede.
    >
    > How's this: Some things are cheaper in the UK, some thing are cheaper in NL.
    > I can easily see how someone could come away with either impression
    > depending on what they're shopping for.

I tend to get the impression of things being cheaper in the UK than in
other western European countries, but that might just reflect the fact
that I know where to find the cheaper stuff in the UK. Because I live
close to several different stores, I tend to know which items are better
value at each, and shop accordingly. General comparisons can be hard
because you rarely have exactly the same produce, especially when it
comes to food. Even with companies having the same stores in each
country (e.g. Aldi) the food they sell is completely different.

David

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"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
    > lousy ultra- expensive food,
    > expensive broom-
    > closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    > attitudes

That's just London. The thing about London is it's completely unlike the
rest of the country. But most Americans are too stupid to realise this.

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:15:11 +0100, "Mark Hewitt"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]. com...
    >> lousy ultra- expensive food,
    >> expensive broom-
    >> closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    >> attitudes
    >That's just London. The thing about London is it's completely unlike the
    >rest of the country. But most Americans are too stupid to realise this.

Hotel prices in York are similar.

A year ago, we paid GBP100/night for what could only be described as
a converted garden shed. Exactly why an 80 room hotel with only 5
rooms occupied chose to fill the garden shed accommodation first was
beyond us.
--
Martin

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:15:11 +0100, "Mark Hewitt"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected] .com...
    >>> lousy ultra- expensive food,
    >>> expensive broom-
    >>> closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    >>> attitudes
    >>That's just London. The thing about London is it's completely unlike the
    >>rest of the country. But most Americans are too stupid to realise this.
    > Hotel prices in York are similar.
    > A year ago, we paid GBP100/night for what could only be described as
    > a converted garden shed. Exactly why an 80 room hotel with only 5
    > rooms occupied chose to fill the garden shed accommodation first was
    > beyond us.

There are hotels of that sort of price anywhere you go in the UK, there are
many such examples here in Newcastle.

What I'm meaning is anywhere but London you can get decent (travel inn or
similar) accomodation for around £50 per night, but not London.

in article [email protected], Mark Hewitt at
[email protected] wrote on 25/10/04 14:15:

    > hat's just London. The thing about London is it's completely unlike the
    > rest of the country. But most Americans are too stupid to realise this.
    >
    >


The best thing about London is its book stores. The Americans
should come and try out Foyles.

Earl

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDA2C026.21EA3%[email protected]...
    > in article [email protected], Mark Hewitt at
    > [email protected] wrote on 25/10/04 14:15:
    >> hat's just London. The thing about London is it's completely unlike the
    >> rest of the country. But most Americans are too stupid to realise this.
    > The best thing about London is its book stores. The Americans
    > should come and try out Foyles.
    > Earl

Only if you dont want to find a specific book. The standard
method of sorting books in Foyles is to pile them up randomly.

Keith

[email protected] wrote:

    > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>PJ O'Donovan writes:
    >>>Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >>>penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >>>happens to be on this planet.
    >>You won't be missed.
    >
    >
    > I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.

IIRC he's had a pop at the Brits before..

B

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 13:55:18 +0100, BrianE
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>PJ O'Donovan writes:
    >>>>Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >>>>penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >>>>happens to be on this planet.
    >>>You won't be missed.
    >>
    >>
    >> I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.
    >IIRC he's had a pop at the Brits before..

I was just checking that he had really gone :-)
--
Martin

Following up to PJ O'Donovan

    >Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >happens to be on this planet.

excellent, stay away, we don't want rude, humourless "people"
like you.
--
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Following up to Leighton Jones

    >>, lousy ultra- expensive food,
    >Well I think you can get the best food in world in the UK.
    >The majority of the crap restaurants I see, are US chains!
    >Obesity R' Us! etc?

don't know about best in world, probably at least as good as US
who we import a lot of crap from for some stupid reason that is
unfathomable.
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Wasdale-Thames path-London-photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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