On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
wrote:

    >PJ O'Donovan writes:
    >> Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >> penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >> happens to be on this planet.
    >You won't be missed.

I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.
--
Martin

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:30:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:25:13 +0000 (UTC),
    >libraryofalex@*nospam*btinternet.com wrote:
    >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:23 GMT, "Leighton Jones"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>, lousy ultra- expensive food,
    >>>Well I think you can get the best food in world in the UK.
    >>You're wrong. The food's improving, especially in London, but it's
    >>expensive because of the CrAP

Yeah food subsidies are a real pain all over the world.

    >It's expensive because of UK supermarket, near monopolies.

Eh? You're suggesting the supermarkets are a cartel fixing food
prices? if that's the case how come food inflation is negative, you'd
think they'd collude to increase prices, not reduce them?

Jim.

Thats right Baby-4 MORE YEARS!
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    >On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:30:12 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:25:13 +0000 (UTC),
    >>libraryofalex@*nospam*btinternet.com wrote:
    >>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:07:23 GMT, "Leighton Jones"
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>, lousy ultra- expensive food,
    >>>>Well I think you can get the best food in world in the UK.
    >>>You're wrong. The food's improving, especially in London, but it's
    >>>expensive because of the CrAP
    >Yeah food subsidies are a real pain all over the world.
    >>It's expensive because of UK supermarket, near monopolies.
    >Eh? You're suggesting the supermarkets are a cartel fixing food
    >prices? if that's the case how come food inflation is negative, you'd
    >think they'd collude to increase prices, not reduce them?

How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
Before this started there was a difference in prices of up to 25%
between cheapest and dearest. Now it's only a few percent different.
The net result is that there is negative food price inflation. There
is still a big gap between what farmers are paid and what the consumer
is charged.
--
Martin

As a Brit I'd like to see the Guardian 'newspaper' prosecuted under
international law for this and also for their attempt this week to
influence critical swing voters in a foreign election.

U.K. Letters Aim to Influence Undecided Ohio Voters
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4120647

On 24 Oct 2004 07:22:31 -0700, [email protected]
(OnePrivateIndividual) wrote:

    >As a Brit I'd like to see the Guardian 'newspaper' prosecuted under
    >international law

What particular law did you have in mind that they broke?

Jim.

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    > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    > How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    > is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.

Hardly evidence of monopoly.

    > Before this started there was a difference in prices of up to 25%
    > between cheapest and dearest. Now it's only a few percent different.
    > The net result is that there is negative food price inflation. There
    > is still a big gap between what farmers are paid and what the consumer
    > is charged.

Then they can but direct, farm shops arent exactly uncommon.

Keith

On 24 Oct 2004 07:22:31 -0700, [email protected]
(OnePrivateIndividual) wrote:

    >As a Brit I'd like to see the Guardian 'newspaper' prosecuted under
    >international law for this and also for their attempt this week to
    >influence critical swing voters in a foreign election.

Don't be daft. There's no international law on this issue.

It's a stupid stunt that almost certainly backfired. Forget about it

--

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On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    ><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected].. .
    >> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >> How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    >> is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    >Hardly evidence of monopoly.

Three groups own all the supermarkets.

    >> Before this started there was a difference in prices of up to 25%
    >> between cheapest and dearest. Now it's only a few percent different.
    >> The net result is that there is negative food price inflation. There
    >> is still a big gap between what farmers are paid and what the consumer
    >> is charged.
    >Then they can but direct, farm shops arent exactly uncommon.

They are in NL.
--
Martin

    > Excerpt UK Guardian today:
    > "On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying
    > Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby
    > disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will
    > endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed,
    > with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth,
    > Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need
    > you?"

As it happens I have a badge that says "Where is Lee Harvey Oswald now
that his country needs him?" - it dates back to Reagan's reign. You
have just just reminded me to get it out of the tin and wear it for the
next week or so.

As my GP put it to me in a conversation-over-the-stethoscope after
whoever-it-was had a potshot at Reagan, "some assassins need to be
strung up and some of them need to be taught how to shoot straight".
That wasn't exactly a controversial opinion in the UK at the time and
neither is the idea that a Bush-free planet would be a better place.

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[email protected] wrote on 24/10/04 15:32:

    > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> PJ O'Donovan writes:
    >>
    >>> Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >>> penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >>> happens to be on this planet.
    >>
    >> You won't be missed.
    >
    > I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.


PJ never gives his sources but here it is---

http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/c...333748,00.html

I did not find it on Google news yet but going directly to the
Guardian web site gave it to me.

From an American viewpoint the statement is deplorable and dangerous
since one will get a visit by the Secret Service if made in the USA.
We don`t even joke about it. Some nut might take the hint and
try to make himself famous (America is a celebrity society so
some people figure this is a way to make the history books).

Curiously enough I have encountered people, Americans, who have expressed
the same evil thought. So there must be more around. I was at dinner
with a visiting American from Maryland who expressed some vague hope
in God taking care of the Bush problem. A joke? It should not have
been.

Of course the British have an example with respect to Thomas àBecket
with "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest ?" by the King himself.

My theory is that Bush is relatively safe except from the crazies. When
the Kennedys got killed, and Martin Luther King too, there were, however,
some in the US who expressed some joy with this event. King was hated
deeply by racists and pursued in an illegal manner by Hoover.
It is not too extreme to guess that Hoover had something to do with
King's death. I personally think not but the FBI were not dependable at that
time. Did the right man get caught??? There were more than one involved
in the King killing. And did the FBI really pursue that?

Of these three killings the King killing looks closest to being a conspiracy
by members of the extreme right in the USA.

Attempts of both Ford and Reagan`s life, the latter nearly successful, were
not conspiracies. My theory is that Americans don`t do conspiracies well,
so the Secret Service has the job of going after the nuts. Also
the killers seem to prefer the beautiful people, and Alfred E. Newman Bush
is not a good looking guy. I hope and think he is relatively safe. I prefer
him as a live jerk than a dead one.

The danger of expressing a wish that has not been spread is that the sickies
can read it, grab and run with it.

Unfortunately we all sometimes wish the death of another person. The
American expression "drop dead yet", is hardly a declaration of a long
and prosperous life.

I, in fact, wish George W. Bush a long and prosperous life after his return
to Texas in January.

Earl

On 2004-10-24 16:22:31 +0200, [email protected]
(OnePrivateIndividual) said:

    > As a Brit I'd like to see the Guardian 'newspaper' prosecuted under
    > international law for this and also for their attempt this week to
    > influence critical swing voters in a foreign election.
    >
    > U.K. Letters Aim to Influence Undecided Ohio Voters
    > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4120647

You're right - the only acceptable way to influence the politics of
another country is by sending the marines.

J;

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC),
libraryofalex@*nospam*btinternet.com wrote:

    >It's a stupid stunt that almost certainly backfired. Forget about it

Polls in Ohio have shown Kerry improving over the last fortnight

http://www.electoral-vote.com/states/ohio.html

Furthermore, the GU campaign was terminated, because they'd run out of
undecided voters to assign to the thousands of people wanting to write
in.

Glenys
--
Chronic post modernity.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:21:42 +0200, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
    ><[email protected]> wrote:
    >><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]. ..
    >>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>> How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    >>> is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    >>Hardly evidence of monopoly.
    >Three groups own all the supermarkets.

Which part of monopoly means 3?

Jim.

PJ O'Donovan wrote:
(cut)

    >I have travelled to Europe several times a year for the past 35+ years
    >on business and pleasure , and now that I am retired exclusively for
    >pleasure.

    >In recent years, my wife and I have stopped off in London overnight
    >and then gone on to the continent next morning. The convenience of the
    >relatively short flight from the East coast of the US has compensated
    >for the lousy weather, lousy ultra- expensive food, expensive broom-
    >closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    >attitudes and rotten teeth since it has been for only one night, over
    >and back.

    >Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >happens to be on this planet.

I'm sure that I speak for many in this miserable country when I say
that we are truly sorry for the inconveniences and indignities you
have endured with such good grace during your visits here. The
eloquent modesty with which you downplay them shames us.

It's been the greatest pleasure having you and your lovely wife
here, and we have all learnt something from you of how to treat with
curtesy and understanding those whose standards and behaviour
fall so far beyond one's own.

I've relayed your sentiments to my son who is fighting in a war in a
far-off country of which we know little. He asks me to convey to you
his distress that a compatriot of the enviably dentured soldiers
alongside whom he's fighting should have had to suffer so in our
poor country. He sends you his very best wishes (in fact, his
message was garbled, as I suppose one might expect from the
front line, but I'm sure that is what he meant to say).

We all sincerely hope that you will come back again as soon as
we have fixed our food, our hotels, our surliness and our teeth. The
weather, I'm afraid, is quite beyond our control. We'll never aspire
to the baking heat, hurricanes and so on which contribute so much
to the temper and charm of your fair land.

Toodle-pip!