On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:35:20 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    >On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:21:42 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
    >><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>news:[email protected] ...
    >>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>>> How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    >>>> is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    >>>Hardly evidence of monopoly.
    >>Three groups own all the supermarkets.
    >Which part of monopoly means 3?

It depends how much collusion there is between them.
--
Martin

"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
    > Excerpt UK Guardian today:
    > "On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying
    > Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby
    > disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will
    > endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed,
    > with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth,
    > Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need
    > you?"
    > Typical of fellow travellers on the left. Preach diversity and
    > "compassion" except for those that don't embrace their unworkable
    > Marxist dogma. For those who don't share the ideology insults and
    > threats of violence are in order.
    > This conservative is outraged.
    > I have travelled to Europe several times a year for the past 35+ years
    > on business and pleasure , and now that I am retired exclusively for
    > pleasure.
    > In recent years, my wife and I have stopped off in London overnight
    > and then gone on to the continent next morning. The convenience of the
    > relatively short flight from the East coast of the US has compensated
    > for the lousy weather, lousy ultra- expensive food, expensive broom-
    > closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    > attitudes and rotten teeth since it has been for only one night, over
    > and back.
    > Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    > penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    > happens to be on this planet.
    > It reflects "sour grapes" by this Socialist rag because their efforts
    > to get their Socialist readers to influence American voters in Ohio
    > has backfired.

If we want the Europeans to differentiate between the American government
and indivdual Americans, we, in return, should differentiate between the
views of one newspaper and those of the rest of the country. Remember the UK
has supported us in Iraq.

And you really ought to see more of Britain than London. Truly beautiful
countryside and a lot cheaper.

Marianne, a proud liberal

"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
    > Excerpt UK Guardian today:
    > "On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying
    > Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby
    > disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will
    > endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed,
    > with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth,
    > Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need
    > you?"
Snip

Not a bad troll as these things go but I've seen much better.


--

Chris Thomas
West Cork
Ireland

[email protected] wrote:

    > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:35:20 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >
    >
    >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:21:42 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
    >>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>news:[email protected] m...
    >>>>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>>>>How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    >>>>>is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    >>>>Hardly evidence of monopoly.
    >>>Three groups own all the supermarkets.
    >>Which part of monopoly means 3?

    > It depends how much collusion there is between them.

Sorry but mono means ONE! You are describing a cartel.

With your attitude I would have expected support for a Cheeney
presidency. Scares the hell out of me but I would have expected your
support.

PJ O'Donovan wrote:

    > Excerpt UK Guardian today:
    >
    > "On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying
    > Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby
    > disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will
    > endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed,
    > with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth,
    > Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need
    > you?"
    >
    > Typical of fellow travellers on the left. Preach diversity and
    > "compassion" except for those that don't embrace their unworkable
    > Marxist dogma. For those who don't share the ideology insults and
    > threats of violence are in order.
    >
    > This conservative is outraged.
    >
    > I have travelled to Europe several times a year for the past 35+ years
    > on business and pleasure , and now that I am retired exclusively for
    > pleasure.
    >
    > In recent years, my wife and I have stopped off in London overnight
    > and then gone on to the continent next morning. The convenience of the
    > relatively short flight from the East coast of the US has compensated
    > for the lousy weather, lousy ultra- expensive food, expensive broom-
    > closet type accommodations, and putting up with people with surly
    > attitudes and rotten teeth since it has been for only one night, over
    > and back.
    >
    > Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    > penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    > happens to be on this planet.
    >
    > It reflects "sour grapes" by this Socialist rag because their efforts
    > to get their Socialist readers to influence American voters in Ohio
    > has backfired.

In article <[email protected]>,
<[email protected]> wrote:

    > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:35:20 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >
    > >On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:21:42 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    > >
    > >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
    > >><[email protected]> wrote:
    > >>
    > >>>
    > >>><[email protected]> wrote in message
    > >>>news:[email protected] ...
    > >>>> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>> How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    > >>>> is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    > >>>
    > >>>Hardly evidence of monopoly.
    > >>
    > >>Three groups own all the supermarkets.
    > >
    > >Which part of monopoly means 3?
    >
    > It depends how much collusion there is between them.

Does the same labor union work for all 3 ?

jay
Sun Oct 24, 2004
mailto:[email protected]

Earl Evleth wrote:

    > in article [email protected], [email protected] at
    > [email protected] wrote on 24/10/04 15:32:

    >>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    >>wrote:

    >>>PJ O'Donovan writes:

    >>>>Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    >>>>penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    >>>>happens to be on this planet.
    >>>You won't be missed.

    >>I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.

    > PJ never gives his sources but here it is---
    >
    > http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/c...333748,00.html
    >
    > I did not find it on Google news yet but going directly to the
    > Guardian web site gave it to me.

    > From an American viewpoint the statement is deplorable and dangerous
    > since one will get a visit by the Secret Service if made in the USA.
    > We don`t even joke about it. Some nut might take the hint and
    > try to make himself famous (America is a celebrity society so
    > some people figure this is a way to make the history books).

    > Curiously enough I have encountered people, Americans, who have expressed
    > the same evil thought. So there must be more around. I was at dinner
    > with a visiting American from Maryland who expressed some vague hope
    > in God taking care of the Bush problem. A joke? It should not have
    > been.

I would expect that any threat to shrub's life would come from the
extreme right. Anyone to the left of Ghengis Khan would be terrified of
the concept of Cheesy as president.

    > Of course the British have an example with respect to Thomas àBecket
    > with "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest ?" by the King himself.
    >
    > My theory is that Bush is relatively safe except from the crazies. When
    > the Kennedys got killed, and Martin Luther King too, there were, however,
    > some in the US who expressed some joy with this event. King was hated
    > deeply by racists and pursued in an illegal manner by Hoover.
    > It is not too extreme to guess that Hoover had something to do with
    > King's death. I personally think not but the FBI were not dependable at that
    > time. Did the right man get caught??? There were more than one involved
    > in the King killing. And did the FBI really pursue that?
    >
    > Of these three killings the King killing looks closest to being a conspiracy
    > by members of the extreme right in the USA.
    >
    > Attempts of both Ford and Reagan`s life, the latter nearly successful, were
    > not conspiracies. My theory is that Americans don`t do conspiracies well,
    > so the Secret Service has the job of going after the nuts. Also
    > the killers seem to prefer the beautiful people, and Alfred E. Newman Bush
    > is not a good looking guy. I hope and think he is relatively safe. I prefer
    > him as a live jerk than a dead one.
    >
    > The danger of expressing a wish that has not been spread is that the sickies
    > can read it, grab and run with it.
    >
    > Unfortunately we all sometimes wish the death of another person. The
    > American expression "drop dead yet", is hardly a declaration of a long
    > and prosperous life.
    >
    > I, in fact, wish George W. Bush a long and prosperous life after his return
    > to Texas in January.
    > Earl

On 24 Oct 2004 03:57:49 -0700, [email protected] (PJ O'Donovan) wrote:


    >This conservative is outraged.
Good.

On 24 Oct 2004 03:57:49 -0700, [email protected] (PJ O'Donovan) wrote:

    >Excerpt UK Guardian today:
The guardian doesn't publish on a Sunday. And I can't find any sign of
this in yesterday's copy either.

So, where is this stuff you're banging on about??

"PJ O'Donovan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected] om...
    > Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology,

**** off then you hamburger munching , coke drinking, drive by
shooting,illegaly invading, genocidal,gas chamber using, nigger
executioning,drug using, lardarse and take that sexually frustrated tart of
a wife with you.
Two less Amerikunts to bother us yellow tooths

Mimi wrote:

If we want the Europeans to differentiate between the American government
    > and indivdual Americans, we, in return, should differentiate between the
    > views of one newspaper and those of the rest of the country. Remember the UK
    > has supported us in Iraq.

Nobody takes the Grauniad seriously any more. Notice that some of the
letters came from the "usual suspects", like Ken Loach and Antonia
Fraser. Always rely on them for their hilariously left-wing opinions.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:40:28 +0100, Juggz
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >>It's a stupid stunt that almost certainly backfired. Forget about it
    >Polls in Ohio have shown Kerry improving over the last fortnight

I'm sure that's down to the Guardian...

    > http://www.electoral-vote.com/states/ohio.html
    >Furthermore, the GU campaign was terminated, because they'd run out of
    >undecided voters to assign to the thousands of people wanting to write
    >in.

No doubt

--

cheers

www.libraryofalex.com
Wherever book may be burned, men also, in the end, are burned

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:32:11 GMT, "Frank F. Matthews"
<[email protected]> wrote:

    >[email protected] wrote:
    >> On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:35:20 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 17:21:42 +0200, [email protected] wrote:
    >>>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 16:17:41 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
    >>>><[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>><[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>>>>news:[email protected] om...
    >>>>>>On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 13:33:33 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
    >>>>>>How much have they reduced them? In NL the most expensive supermarket
    >>>>>>is engaged in a price cutting war with the cheaper supermarkets.
    >>>>>Hardly evidence of monopoly.
    >>>>Three groups own all the supermarkets.
    >>>Which part of monopoly means 3?
    >> It depends how much collusion there is between them.
    >Sorry but mono means ONE! You are describing a cartel.

The point is that high prices in UK supermarkets are not the result of
the CAP. They are the direct result of supermarkets screwing both the
customers and the farmers
--
Martin

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 10:34:34 -0700, Go Fig <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    ><[email protected]> wrote:

    >> It depends how much collusion there is between them.
    >Does the same labor union work for all 3 ?

which labor union????
--
Martin

"Earl Evleth" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BDA196D2.21A8A%[email protected]...
    > in article [email protected], [email protected]
at
    > [email protected] wrote on 24/10/04 15:32:
    > > On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 15:28:56 +0200, Mxsmanic <[email protected]>
    > > wrote:
    > >
    > >> PJ O'Donovan writes:
    > >>
    > >>> Unless I am satisfied with a proper apology, I will never spend a
    > >>> penny again in that wothless peice of nothing called the UK that
    > >>> happens to be on this planet.
    > >>
    > >> You won't be missed.
    > >
    > > I fully agree. I can't say I remember him posting before.
    > PJ never gives his sources but here it is---
    > http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguide/c...333748,00.html

The link didn't work for me, but I did eventually find it in yesterday's
copy.

As others have said, the Guardian isn't by the most generous definition
"socialist". Nor is the item in question "UK news". It is the final
paragraph of a comment in the "Guide" section, the bit we keep for the
television times.

Alan Harrison