How can there be so much traffic in this group?
Jun 11th 2003, 7:38 am
#46
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
"Sjoerd" wrote in message
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> "Mark Hewitt" schreef in
> bericht news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > The Reid writes:
> > >
> > > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> > >
> > > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is
no
> > > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies
give
> > > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> >
> > eeek!
> > I get six weeks ;-)
> Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
> Sjoerd
Before anybody claims that they only work 1 week out of 52, there is every
probability that someone spends 50 weeks a year on free holidays, reviewing
the actual holidays.
They would then more than likely take 2 weeks a year at home :-)
RTE
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> "Mark Hewitt" schreef in
> bericht news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > The Reid writes:
> > >
> > > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> > >
> > > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is
no
> > > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies
give
> > > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> >
> > eeek!
> > I get six weeks ;-)
> Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
> Sjoerd
Before anybody claims that they only work 1 week out of 52, there is every
probability that someone spends 50 weeks a year on free holidays, reviewing
the actual holidays.
They would then more than likely take 2 weeks a year at home :-)
RTE
Jun 11th 2003, 7:42 am
#47
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
The Reid writes:
> Mind you, there is some downward pressure on
> leave here in UK.
Has Master Bush given Tony new orders?
> I would feel more like a slave than an employee with
> 2- weeks leave.
Most Americans don't realize that working without vacation is not the
norm in the industrialized world.
> So most of the US people touring Europe do it
> between jobs or after retirement?
Or for short periods while on vacation. Notice that very few Americans
stay in Europe for longer than a few days.
And yes, many do visit after retirement, if they have the money.
A third group of Americans consists of adolescents travelling in groups.
They have long vacations, as do their teachers.
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> Mind you, there is some downward pressure on
> leave here in UK.
Has Master Bush given Tony new orders?
> I would feel more like a slave than an employee with
> 2- weeks leave.
Most Americans don't realize that working without vacation is not the
norm in the industrialized world.
> So most of the US people touring Europe do it
> between jobs or after retirement?
Or for short periods while on vacation. Notice that very few Americans
stay in Europe for longer than a few days.
And yes, many do visit after retirement, if they have the money.
A third group of Americans consists of adolescents travelling in groups.
They have long vacations, as do their teachers.
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Jun 11th 2003, 7:43 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
Mark Hewitt writes:
> I get six weeks ;-)
So does everyone in France.
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> I get six weeks ;-)
So does everyone in France.
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Jun 11th 2003, 8:05 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
"Sjoerd" skrev i meddelandet
news:[email protected]...
> "Mark Hewitt" schreef in
> bericht news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > The Reid writes:
> > >
> > > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> > >
> > > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is
no
> > > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies
give
> > > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> >
> > eeek!
> > I get six weeks ;-)
> Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
> Sjoerd
Hmm.... this year I've booked 13 weeks only much less than the 16 in 2002.
There's 7 week vacation to start, but as I'm working to a roster where every
second week is off, include some ordinary holidays as midsummer and some
compensation for overtime the total vacation time is substantial longer.
And no I wouldn't like to exchange anything for a higher salary as I already
have enough.
L.P
news:[email protected]...
> "Mark Hewitt" schreef in
> bericht news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > The Reid writes:
> > >
> > > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
> > >
> > > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> > > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is
no
> > > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies
give
> > > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
> >
> > eeek!
> > I get six weeks ;-)
> Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
> Sjoerd
Hmm.... this year I've booked 13 weeks only much less than the 16 in 2002.
There's 7 week vacation to start, but as I'm working to a roster where every
second week is off, include some ordinary holidays as midsummer and some
compensation for overtime the total vacation time is substantial longer.
And no I wouldn't like to exchange anything for a higher salary as I already
have enough.
L.P
Jun 11th 2003, 8:19 am
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"Lennart Petersen" wrote:
>And no I wouldn't like to exchange anything for a higher salary as I already
>have enough.
There are people who could not understand that.
PB
>And no I wouldn't like to exchange anything for a higher salary as I already
>have enough.
There are people who could not understand that.
PB
Jun 11th 2003, 9:18 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
In article , poldy
writes
>In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
>> In article , poldy
>> writes
>> >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>> There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
>> places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>you not know that?
I take it this is you idea of a joke?
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Marie Lewis
writes
>In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
>> In article , poldy
>> writes
>> >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
>> There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
>> places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
>you not know that?
I take it this is you idea of a joke?
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Marie Lewis
Jun 11th 2003, 9:19 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
In article , Sjoerd
writes
>"Mark Hewitt" schreef in
>bericht news:[email protected]...
>> "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > The Reid writes:
>> >
>> > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
>> > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>> >
>> > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
>> > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
>> > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
>> > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
>> eeek!
>> I get six weeks ;-)
>Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
>Sjoerd
I get the whole year!
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Marie Lewis
writes
>"Mark Hewitt" schreef in
>bericht news:[email protected]...
>> "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > The Reid writes:
>> >
>> > > If what I just read in another thread is true,
>> > > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>> >
>> > It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
>> > year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
>> > legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
>> > three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
>> eeek!
>> I get six weeks ;-)
>Now that the pissing contest is open: :-) I get eleven weeks. :-))
>Sjoerd
I get the whole year!
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Marie Lewis
Jun 11th 2003, 9:55 am
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
In article , Mxsmanic
writes
>The Reid writes:
>> If what I just read in another thread is true,
>> (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
>year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
>legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
>three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
>It's hard to go anywhere with only ten days of vacation per year, that's
>true.
With my seven weeks holiday a year I'm struggling to find the dosh to
make full use of them.
And the company I work for is American. Luckily my contract was drawn up
by the UK company that I joined before it was eventually swallowed up.
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writes
>The Reid writes:
>> If what I just read in another thread is true,
>> (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
>year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
>legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
>three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
>It's hard to go anywhere with only ten days of vacation per year, that's
>true.
With my seven weeks holiday a year I'm struggling to find the dosh to
make full use of them.
And the company I work for is American. Luckily my contract was drawn up
by the UK company that I joined before it was eventually swallowed up.
--
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http://congokid.com
Jun 11th 2003, 1:29 pm
#54
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
the point of this post.... ?
"poldy" wrote in message
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> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
"poldy" wrote in message
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[email protected]...> Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
Jun 11th 2003, 2:09 pm
#55
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
Mxsmanic wrote:
>
> The Reid writes:
>
> > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>
> It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
> legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
> three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
What you say is basically true (unfortunately). However, in occupations
where large amounts of seasonal overtime may be expected (a tax
accounting firm, for example), employers are often VERY happy to let you
"bank" that overtime for use later in the year, when they'd otherwise
have to pay you for sitting at your desk doing nothing (or reading
mysteries, or surfing the net). If you don't really need the extra
money, it's much nicer to use the time for trips to Europe, n'est-ce
pas?
>
> The Reid writes:
>
> > If what I just read in another thread is true,
> > (that US tend to only have 2 weeks leave a year) ...
>
> It is. Furthermore, in the United States, you don't get two weeks a
> year to start--you have to work up to it in many companies (there is no
> legal minimum, so you may not get anything at all). Some companies give
> three or four weeks ... after _thirty years_ with the company!
What you say is basically true (unfortunately). However, in occupations
where large amounts of seasonal overtime may be expected (a tax
accounting firm, for example), employers are often VERY happy to let you
"bank" that overtime for use later in the year, when they'd otherwise
have to pay you for sitting at your desk doing nothing (or reading
mysteries, or surfing the net). If you don't really need the extra
money, it's much nicer to use the time for trips to Europe, n'est-ce
pas?
Jun 11th 2003, 2:14 pm
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
poldy wrote:
>
> In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
>
> > In article , poldy
> > writes
> > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
> > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>
> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
> you not know that?
How on Earth did you arrive at THAT conclusion? We have a fairly large
number of posters here from the UK, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands,
France, Germany, Austria, the Scandinavian countries... and an
increasing complement from Eastern Europe, as well! (The fact that many
of them are more fluent in English than some of our fellow Americans may
have misled you, but look at the addresses.)
>
> In article ,
> Marie Lewis wrote:
>
> > In article , poldy
> > writes
> > >Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > There are quite a few people actually living in Europe and in other
> > places outside the USA. Did you not know that?
>
> But the Internet, especially this newsgroup, is an American thing. Did
> you not know that?
How on Earth did you arrive at THAT conclusion? We have a fairly large
number of posters here from the UK, Australia, Canada, the Netherlands,
France, Germany, Austria, the Scandinavian countries... and an
increasing complement from Eastern Europe, as well! (The fact that many
of them are more fluent in English than some of our fellow Americans may
have misled you, but look at the addresses.)
Jun 11th 2003, 2:16 pm
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
poldy wrote:
>
> In article ,
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> > Magda wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:08:37 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, poldy
> > > arranged
> > > some electrons, so they looked like this :
> > >
> > > ... Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > >
> > > Only in your dreams.
> >
> > Maybe HIS dreams - I'd be inclined to call them nightmares.
>
> I was in Paris last August and was thinking about going there this year.
> But the Euro is higher and there are other financial needs...
Yeah, we have a lot to thank the Bush administration for, don't we? (A
weak dollar being only the tip of the iceberg.)
>
> In article ,
> "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:
>
> > Magda wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003 17:08:37 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, poldy
> > > arranged
> > > some electrons, so they looked like this :
> > >
> > > ... Isn't travel in general and especially to Europe suppose to be down?
> > >
> > > Only in your dreams.
> >
> > Maybe HIS dreams - I'd be inclined to call them nightmares.
>
> I was in Paris last August and was thinking about going there this year.
> But the Euro is higher and there are other financial needs...
Yeah, we have a lot to thank the Bush administration for, don't we? (A
weak dollar being only the tip of the iceberg.)
Jun 11th 2003, 2:20 pm
#58
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
poldy wrote:
>
>
> Supposedly, with the economy and the general displeasure of Americans
> over the war, there's not as much eastward flights across the Atlantic.
I don't think the "displeasure" extends to many people who are
sophisticated enough to have ever considered travel abroad, but the
"economy" is certainly a large factor. Even if you haven't lost your
job in all the "mergers", the dollar isn't worth nearly as much as it
was a couple of years ago.
>
>
> Supposedly, with the economy and the general displeasure of Americans
> over the war, there's not as much eastward flights across the Atlantic.
I don't think the "displeasure" extends to many people who are
sophisticated enough to have ever considered travel abroad, but the
"economy" is certainly a large factor. Even if you haven't lost your
job in all the "mergers", the dollar isn't worth nearly as much as it
was a couple of years ago.
Jun 11th 2003, 4:08 pm
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
congokid writes:
> With my seven weeks holiday a year I'm struggling
> to find the dosh to make full use of them.
My dream in life is to find a way to make money AND still have the time
and opportunity to spend it.
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> With my seven weeks holiday a year I'm struggling
> to find the dosh to make full use of them.
My dream in life is to find a way to make money AND still have the time
and opportunity to spend it.
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Jun 11th 2003, 4:18 pm
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Re: How can there be so much traffic in this group?
Mxsmanic wrote:
> My dream in life is to find a way to make money AND still have the time
> and opportunity to spend it.
What would you spend it on?
miguel
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> My dream in life is to find a way to make money AND still have the time
> and opportunity to spend it.
What would you spend it on?
miguel
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