How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Mar 7th 2007, 5:14 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Martin wrote:
> On 7 Mar 2007 07:37:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>
>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
>>>
>>>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
>>>
>>>In Peckham they probably have guns!
>>
>>As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>
>
> especially on ferries.
>
> We have had rants about
> a) kids on planes
> b) kids on busues and buses
>
> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
> about people who have kids?
I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
> On 7 Mar 2007 07:37:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>>On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>
>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
>>>
>>>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
>>>
>>>In Peckham they probably have guns!
>>
>>As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>
>
> especially on ferries.
>
> We have had rants about
> a) kids on planes
> b) kids on busues and buses
>
> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
> about people who have kids?
I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
Mar 7th 2007, 5:19 am
#242
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:47 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
>>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
>
>surely that just encourages it?
I don't see why.
>annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
>we be tolerant of bad parenting?
I never realised you were an expert in child psychology, and even if
you were that it was possible to get such an instant evaluation,
perhaps in that case there is some reason to be unhappy, however
applying your expertise to help would be more useful than moaning
about it. For most people they are not able to make such a judgement
and I would encourage them to be tolerant.
The same way I'm tolerant of all the rude bastards who use wheelable
hand luggage, and block the routes through airports.
>>And travelling first class is no barrier to poor behaviour (there was
>>a report in the papers of the last couple of days for example.
>
>it was in the paper because its unusual.
No it was in the paper because the behaviour was by famous people in
first class, the majority of first class people aren't famous.
Jim.
wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
>>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
>
>surely that just encourages it?
I don't see why.
>annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
>we be tolerant of bad parenting?
I never realised you were an expert in child psychology, and even if
you were that it was possible to get such an instant evaluation,
perhaps in that case there is some reason to be unhappy, however
applying your expertise to help would be more useful than moaning
about it. For most people they are not able to make such a judgement
and I would encourage them to be tolerant.
The same way I'm tolerant of all the rude bastards who use wheelable
hand luggage, and block the routes through airports.
>>And travelling first class is no barrier to poor behaviour (there was
>>a report in the papers of the last couple of days for example.
>
>it was in the paper because its unusual.
No it was in the paper because the behaviour was by famous people in
first class, the majority of first class people aren't famous.
Jim.
Mar 7th 2007, 5:20 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:12 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Martin wrote:
>
>> On 7 Mar 2007 07:37:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>>
>>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
>>>>
>>>>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
>>>>
>>>>In Peckham they probably have guns!
>>>
>>>As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>>
>>
>> especially on ferries.
>>
>> We have had rants about
>> a) kids on planes
>> b) kids on busues and buses
>>
>> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
>> about people who have kids?
>
>I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
>who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
>limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult behaviour on
planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child ticket why does this
always lead to a rant about child passengers and few offers of real help?
--
Martin
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>Martin wrote:
>
>> On 7 Mar 2007 07:37:38 -0800, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
>>>>
>>>>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
>>>>
>>>>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
>>>>
>>>>In Peckham they probably have guns!
>>>
>>>As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>>
>>
>> especially on ferries.
>>
>> We have had rants about
>> a) kids on planes
>> b) kids on busues and buses
>>
>> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
>> about people who have kids?
>
>I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
>who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
>limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult behaviour on
planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child ticket why does this
always lead to a rant about child passengers and few offers of real help?
--
Martin
Mar 7th 2007, 5:25 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:19:54 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:47 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>>>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
>>
>>surely that just encourages it?
>
>I don't see why.
>
>>annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
>>we be tolerant of bad parenting?
>
>I never realised you were an expert in child psychology, and even if
>you were that it was possible to get such an instant evaluation,
>perhaps in that case there is some reason to be unhappy, however
>applying your expertise to help would be more useful than moaning
>about it. For most people they are not able to make such a judgement
>and I would encourage them to be tolerant.
Annoyances on planes are usually NOT *indisiplined*(sic) children.
Whingers about children are usually childless.
>
>The same way I'm tolerant of all the rude bastards who use wheelable
>hand luggage, and block the routes through airports.
Yes.
>
>>>And travelling first class is no barrier to poor behaviour (there was
>>>a report in the papers of the last couple of days for example.
>>
>>it was in the paper because its unusual.
>
>No it was in the paper because the behaviour was by famous people in
>first class, the majority of first class people aren't famous.
They are second class people with first class tickets often paid for by their
company.
--
Martin
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:47 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>>>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
>>
>>surely that just encourages it?
>
>I don't see why.
>
>>annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
>>we be tolerant of bad parenting?
>
>I never realised you were an expert in child psychology, and even if
>you were that it was possible to get such an instant evaluation,
>perhaps in that case there is some reason to be unhappy, however
>applying your expertise to help would be more useful than moaning
>about it. For most people they are not able to make such a judgement
>and I would encourage them to be tolerant.
Annoyances on planes are usually NOT *indisiplined*(sic) children.
Whingers about children are usually childless.
>
>The same way I'm tolerant of all the rude bastards who use wheelable
>hand luggage, and block the routes through airports.
Yes.
>
>>>And travelling first class is no barrier to poor behaviour (there was
>>>a report in the papers of the last couple of days for example.
>>
>>it was in the paper because its unusual.
>
>No it was in the paper because the behaviour was by famous people in
>first class, the majority of first class people aren't famous.
They are second class people with first class tickets often paid for by their
company.
--
Martin
Mar 7th 2007, 5:33 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
> behaviour on planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child
> ticket why does this always lead to a rant about child passengers and few
> offers of real help?
Because a couple of the locals are joyless, grumpy old hens?
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> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
> behaviour on planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child
> ticket why does this always lead to a rant about child passengers and few
> offers of real help?
Because a couple of the locals are joyless, grumpy old hens?
B;
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Mar 7th 2007, 5:35 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:33:26 +0100, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett) wrote:
>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
>> behaviour on planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child
>> ticket why does this always lead to a rant about child passengers and few
>> offers of real help?
>
>Because a couple of the locals are joyless, grumpy old hens?
and so is ...
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>Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
>> behaviour on planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child
>> ticket why does this always lead to a rant about child passengers and few
>> offers of real help?
>
>Because a couple of the locals are joyless, grumpy old hens?
and so is ...
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Mar 7th 2007, 5:43 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
...
... especially on ferries.
...
... We have had rants about
... a) kids on planes
... b) kids on busues and buses
...
... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
... about people who have kids?
Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
...
... especially on ferries.
...
... We have had rants about
... a) kids on planes
... b) kids on busues and buses
...
... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
... about people who have kids?
Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
Mar 7th 2007, 5:47 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:48:45 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Mister Bartlett)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:02:34 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
... > (Mister Bartlett) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... > LOL. Chickening out, huh? There *isn't* any bad behaviour you like,
... > ... > and you have just proven it.
... > ...
... > ... Your concept of "proof" leaves a little to be desired, sweetie.
... >
... > You don't like bad behaviour any more than I do, you chicken.
...
... Hahaha - tell me Madge, what's the Serbo-Croat for "whoosh"?
It's called "a jeremy".
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
...
... > On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:02:34 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected]
... > (Mister Bartlett) arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... >
... > ... Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
... > ...
... > ... > LOL. Chickening out, huh? There *isn't* any bad behaviour you like,
... > ... > and you have just proven it.
... > ...
... > ... Your concept of "proof" leaves a little to be desired, sweetie.
... >
... > You don't like bad behaviour any more than I do, you chicken.
...
... Hahaha - tell me Madge, what's the Serbo-Croat for "whoosh"?
It's called "a jeremy".
Mar 7th 2007, 5:49 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 18:19:54 GMT, in rec.travel.europe, [email protected] (Jim Ley)
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:47 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
... >
... >>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
... >
... >surely that just encourages it?
...
... I don't see why.
...
... >annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
... >we be tolerant of bad parenting?
...
... I never realised you were an expert in child psychology,
Oh, yes, it takes an expert to identify bad parenting... LOL
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
... On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 15:17:47 +0000, The Reid <[email protected]>
... wrote:
...
... >On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:55:04 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:
... >
... >>No, I think people should be tolerant of poor behaviour in general
... >
... >surely that just encourages it?
...
... I don't see why.
...
... >annoyances on planes are usually *indisiplined* children, why should
... >we be tolerant of bad parenting?
...
... I never realised you were an expert in child psychology,
Oh, yes, it takes an expert to identify bad parenting... LOL
Mar 7th 2007, 7:29 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:50:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> of course not, but you don't want to share a seat with those who are.
> >
> >Because most kids aren't doing it, it's not something I worry about a
> >lot.
>
> if bad behavior on trains wasn't common, neither would I.
Bad behaviour on trains isn't common, actually. I'll go out on a limb
and say that I travel a heck of a lot more on trains than you do.
--
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> On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:50:45 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
>
> >> of course not, but you don't want to share a seat with those who are.
> >
> >Because most kids aren't doing it, it's not something I worry about a
> >lot.
>
> if bad behavior on trains wasn't common, neither would I.
Bad behaviour on trains isn't common, actually. I'll go out on a limb
and say that I travel a heck of a lot more on trains than you do.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
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Mar 7th 2007, 7:29 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:12 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Martin wrote:
[]
> >> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and
> >> ahave a rant bout people who have kids?
> >
> >I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
> >who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
> >limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
>
> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
> behaviour on planes.
Snap.
--
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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 11:14:12 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Martin wrote:
[]
> >> a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and
> >> ahave a rant bout people who have kids?
> >
> >I don't think any of my "rants" have ever been about "people
> >who have kids". People who have kids and make no attempt to
> >limit their bad behaviour in public are another matter!
>
> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
> behaviour on planes.
Snap.
--
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David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Mar 7th 2007, 7:29 am
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >>
> >>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
> >>
> >>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
> >>
> >>In Peckham they probably have guns!
> >
> >
> > As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>
> LOL! The kids around my apartment here can be rather rowdy
> when they come home from school, but to my surprise, one of
> them the other day was carrying a violin case! (A guitar
> case would be less unexpected, although here in the USA most
> public schools no longer offer music - maybe there's hope
> for Arizona, after all.)
In England, it's compulsory for all secondary children to have two years
of music. The crime is the extent to which that time is wasted by
teaching rubbish forced upon them by morons who thought it would be fun
to design a weird and whacky world music curriculum. There, I've said
it. The healing can begin.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > On 7 mrt, 16:32, The Reid <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:27:48 +0000, [email protected] (David Horne,
> >>
> >>_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
> >>
> >>>>Been on a bus when a school comes out?
> >>
> >>>Yes. They're kids, and they rarely bother me.
> >>
> >>In Peckham they probably have guns!
> >
> >
> > As David is carrying a violin case they give him a wide berth.
>
> LOL! The kids around my apartment here can be rather rowdy
> when they come home from school, but to my surprise, one of
> them the other day was carrying a violin case! (A guitar
> case would be less unexpected, although here in the USA most
> public schools no longer offer music - maybe there's hope
> for Arizona, after all.)
In England, it's compulsory for all secondary children to have two years
of music. The crime is the extent to which that time is wasted by
teaching rubbish forced upon them by morons who thought it would be fun
to design a weird and whacky world music curriculum. There, I've said
it. The healing can begin.
--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk
Mar 7th 2007, 10:24 am
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:43:14 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... especially on ferries.
> ...
> ... We have had rants about
> ... a) kids on planes
> ... b) kids on busues and buses
> ...
> ... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
> ... about people who have kids?
>
>Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
Very little. It is drunken bachelors that do that.
--
Martin
>On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin <[email protected]>
>arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
>
> ...
> ... especially on ferries.
> ...
> ... We have had rants about
> ... a) kids on planes
> ... b) kids on busues and buses
> ...
> ... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and have a rant
> ... about people who have kids?
>
>Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
Very little. It is drunken bachelors that do that.
--
Martin
Mar 7th 2007, 1:30 pm
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Martin wrote:
> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
behaviour on
> planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child ticket why does
this
> always lead to a rant about child passengers and few offers of real help?
>
Because children are basically sociopaths and their behaviour cannot be
controlled by force or reason...
--
Best
Greg
> I have travelled lots by air and recall being mainly upset by adult
behaviour on
> planes. When somebody asks for help with a booking a child ticket why does
this
> always lead to a rant about child passengers and few offers of real help?
>
Because children are basically sociopaths and their behaviour cannot be
controlled by force or reason...
--
Best
Greg
Mar 7th 2007, 1:36 pm
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Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:43:14 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
<[email protected]>
> >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> >
> > ...
> > ... especially on ferries.
> > ...
> > ... We have had rants about
> > ... a) kids on planes
> > ... b) kids on busues and buses
> > ...
> > ... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and
have a rant
> > ... about people who have kids?
> >
> >Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
>
> Very little. It is drunken bachelors that do that.
Magda will be sending you a very tiny sweet by sea post...
--
Best
Greg
> On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 19:43:14 +0100, Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0100, in rec.travel.europe, Martin
<[email protected]>
> >arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
> >
> > ...
> > ... especially on ferries.
> > ...
> > ... We have had rants about
> > ... a) kids on planes
> > ... b) kids on busues and buses
> > ...
> > ... a rant about kids on ferries next, or shall we skip the preamble and
have a rant
> > ... about people who have kids?
> >
> >Any chance that said kids will run amok and fall into the sea?? 8-))
>
> Very little. It is drunken bachelors that do that.
Magda will be sending you a very tiny sweet by sea post...
--
Best
Greg
