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Tom Peel Mar 4th 2007 10:58 am

How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
Hi

we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
well. Duhh.
Anyone done this?

T.

-Martin Mar 4th 2007 11:13 am

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:58:28 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi
>
> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
>there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
>but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
>well. Duhh.
> Anyone done this?

The baby doesn't get a seat. I don't understand why the airline is making an
issue of it. If you just book two seats now isn't that sufficient? You can
always buy the baby's ticket later????
--

Martin

kurkku Mar 4th 2007 1:03 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
"Tom Peel" <[email protected]> kirjoitti
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> Hi
>
> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in July
> with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't there
> yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
> but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
> well. Duhh.

Perhaps you book by phone or mail .....

-Gerald Mar 4th 2007 1:20 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:13:05 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>The baby doesn't get a seat. I don't understand why the airline is making an
>issue of it. If you just book two seats now isn't that sufficient? You can
>always buy the baby's ticket later????


sounds to me like they have enough intelligence to realize
that it is dangerous to not put the baby in a seat or a basset of it's
own.

-Martin Mar 4th 2007 2:04 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:20:40 -0500, gerald <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:13:05 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>The baby doesn't get a seat. I don't understand why the airline is making an
>>issue of it. If you just book two seats now isn't that sufficient? You can
>>always buy the baby's ticket later????
>
>
> sounds to me like they have enough intelligence to realize
>that it is dangerous to not put the baby in a seat or a basset of it's
>own.

Have you taken a baby on a plane?
--

Martin

-Martin Mar 4th 2007 2:20 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:04:33 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 09:20:40 -0500, gerald <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:13:05 +0100, Martin <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>The baby doesn't get a seat. I don't understand why the airline is making an
>>>issue of it. If you just book two seats now isn't that sufficient? You can
>>>always buy the baby's ticket later????
>>
>>
>> sounds to me like they have enough intelligence to realize
>>that it is dangerous to not put the baby in a seat or a basset of it's
>>own.
>
>Have you taken a baby on a plane?

http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/faqs....&quest=infants
"What is Ryanair's policy on the carriage of infants?

If you are travelling with an infant (aged 8 days up to and including 23
months), you can include them on your seat booking by making an infant
reservation on our website or by calling your local reservations centre.

Newly born infants up to 7 days inclusive are not accepted on Ryanair flights.
For safety and insurance requirements, infants (aged 8 days up to and including
23 months) must be accompanied by a passenger aged 16 years or above and booked
in the ratio of one infant per adult. Extra seats cannot be purchased for
infants.

Infants under the age of 2 years on the date of travel may fly for an
administration fee per one way flight - Click here for details, provided they
sit on an adult's lap (One infant per adult). If the infant reaches the age of 2
years prior to the return journey they must pay the applicable fare, taxes, fees
and charges for that part of the journey. Proof of age may be required so please
have the infant's valid photo-id available for inspection (or birth certificate
only if traveling on a route that does not require valid photo-id i.e. i.e.
Ireland-UK Ireland, UK domestic, Ireland domestic or Italian domestic flights)

No baby/car seats are allowed in the cabin of the aircraft.

With the exception of a pram or buggy (which is carried free of charge), Infants
do not have a baggage allowance and therefore any infant equipment such as car
seats and travel cots must be included in the accompanying adult's baggage
allowance upon payment of a baggage fee per item, per one way flight - Click
here for details.

To ensure that all families travel at the best price and receive the best
service we have introduced a number of services to make it easier for family
travel:

* Buggies can be used up to the entrance to the plane (provided that local
conditions permit this). After landing your buggy will be available at the
aircraft steps.
* Infant seatbelts are provided on all Ryanair aircraft and individual
assistance is provided by the cabin crew, if required to ensure that infant seat
belt is used correctly.
* Baby food/milk can be heated by our crew on board upon request.
* Baby changing facilities are available on board."

Other airlines
http://www.babyworld.co.uk/informati...stairlines.asp
--

Martin

EvelynVogtGamble Mar 4th 2007 3:23 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
Tom Peel wrote:

> Hi
>
> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
> there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
> but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
> well. Duhh.
> Anyone done this?

Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If
your daughter were relocating to another country, she might
really NEED to travel with an infant that young. If the
travel is purely recreational, why not postpone it a bit?
Traveling with an infant can be stressful, and very young
children don't have much in the way of acquired immunities
to the various illnesses to which travelers are exposed.
>
> T.

B Vaughan Mar 4th 2007 6:36 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:58:28 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi
>
> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
>there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
>but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
>well. Duhh.
> Anyone done this?

My daughter recently added her daughter to a flight by calling the
airline. She wasn't booking a separate seat for the baby though. She
had booked the original tickets through Expedia, then she called the
airline and said , "By the way, we're bringing our baby along as
well."

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Tom Peel Mar 4th 2007 8:04 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) schrieb:
>
>
> Tom Peel wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby
>> isn't there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby
>> later, but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an
>> adult as well. Duhh.
>> Anyone done this?
>
> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If your daughter
> were relocating to another country, she might really NEED to travel with
> an infant that young. If the travel is purely recreational, why not
> postpone it a bit? Traveling with an infant can be stressful, and very
> young children don't have much in the way of acquired immunities to the
> various illnesses to which travelers are exposed.
>>
>> T.

Some of us only get vacation once a year.

T.

Tom Peel Mar 4th 2007 8:06 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
Martin schrieb:
> On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:58:28 +0100, Tom Peel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
>> there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
>> but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
>> well. Duhh.
>> Anyone done this?
>
> The baby doesn't get a seat.

Correct.


I don't understand why the airline is making an
> issue of it.

They are not. But their online booking system is.

If you just book two seats now isn't that sufficient? You can
> always buy the baby's ticket later????

No you can't. You can only book the baby's ticket together with an adult.

T.

EvelynVogtGamble Mar 4th 2007 10:29 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
Tom Peel wrote:

> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) schrieb:
>
>>
>>
>> Tom Peel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby
>>> isn't there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
>>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby
>>> later, but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking
>>> an adult as well. Duhh.
>>> Anyone done this?
>>
>>
>> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If your
>> daughter were relocating to another country, she might really NEED to
>> travel with an infant that young. If the travel is purely
>> recreational, why not postpone it a bit? Traveling with an infant can
>> be stressful, and very young children don't have much in the way of
>> acquired immunities to the various illnesses to which travelers are
>> exposed.
>>
>>>
>>> T.
>
>
> Some of us only get vacation once a year.

So you must put your infant's life at risk, rather than
postpone your trip for a year? Forgive me if I perceive a
flaw in your priorities!

>
> T.

-Magda Mar 4th 2007 10:33 pm

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:29:13 -0700, in rec.travel.europe, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

...
...
... Tom Peel wrote:
...
... > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) schrieb:
... >
... >>
... >>
... >> Tom Peel wrote:
... >>
... >>> Hi
... >>>
... >>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
... >>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby
... >>> isn't there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
... >>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
... >>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby
... >>> later, but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking
... >>> an adult as well. Duhh.
... >>> Anyone done this?
... >>
... >>
... >> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If your
... >> daughter were relocating to another country, she might really NEED to
... >> travel with an infant that young. If the travel is purely
... >> recreational, why not postpone it a bit? Traveling with an infant can
... >> be stressful, and very young children don't have much in the way of
... >> acquired immunities to the various illnesses to which travelers are
... >> exposed.
... >>
... >>>
... >>> T.
... >
... >
... > Some of us only get vacation once a year.
...
... So you must put your infant's life at risk, rather than
... postpone your trip for a year? Forgive me if I perceive a
... flaw in your priorities!

Up to six months the kid has the mother's antibodies, have you forgotten?

David Horne Mar 5th 2007 1:48 am

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom Peel wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
> > July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby isn't
> > there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> > However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
> > thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby later,
> > but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking an adult as
> > well. Duhh.
> > Anyone done this?
>
> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If
> your daughter were relocating to another country, she might
> really NEED to travel with an infant that young. If the
> travel is purely recreational, why not postpone it a bit?
> Traveling with an infant can be stressful, and very young
> children don't have much in the way of acquired immunities
> to the various illnesses to which travelers are exposed.

I think my first trip in a plane I was a month old. I'm glad my parents
had a nice time showing me off to relatives abroad. Have you considered
that maybe it would be a fun thing for daughter, baby and no doubt very
proud grandparent(s) to take a vacation? The baby likely won't remember
having the trip, but I doubt that the happy relatives around the baby
will have a harmful effect. Indeed, I think the benefits of that bonding
far outweigh your 'disease' scaremongering.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

David Horne Mar 5th 2007 1:59 am

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Tom Peel wrote:
>
> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) schrieb:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Tom Peel wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
> >>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby
> >>> isn't there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
> >>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
> >>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby
> >>> later, but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking
> >>> an adult as well. Duhh.
> >>> Anyone done this?
> >>
> >>
> >> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If your
> >> daughter were relocating to another country, she might really NEED to
> >> travel with an infant that young. If the travel is purely
> >> recreational, why not postpone it a bit? Traveling with an infant can
> >> be stressful, and very young children don't have much in the way of
> >> acquired immunities to the various illnesses to which travelers are
> >> exposed.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> T.
> >
> >
> > Some of us only get vacation once a year.
>
> So you must put your infant's life at risk, rather than
> postpone your trip for a year? Forgive me if I perceive a
> flaw in your priorities!

Good grief, get a life. Tom seems to have one.

--
(*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
(don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

-Alan Mar 5th 2007 8:28 am

Re: How to book a flight for someone who isn't born yet
 
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:1huhexp.1nh8gl6slbm0hN%[email protected]...
> EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Tom Peel wrote:
>>
>> > EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) schrieb:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Tom Peel wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi
>> >>>
>> >>> we have an interesting problem- we want to book a vacation flight in
>> >>> July with our daughter and her baby. The only problem is, the baby
>> >>> isn't there yet, so there's no d.o.b. and no name known.
>> >>> However, the airline wants this info in order to issue a ticket. We
>> >>> thought maybe we could just book for the adults and add the baby
>> >>> later, but we can't do an online booking for a baby without booking
>> >>> an adult as well. Duhh.
>> >>> Anyone done this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Why would anyone WANT to? If it's only a "vacation"? If your
>> >> daughter were relocating to another country, she might really NEED to
>> >> travel with an infant that young. If the travel is purely
>> >> recreational, why not postpone it a bit? Traveling with an infant can
>> >> be stressful, and very young children don't have much in the way of
>> >> acquired immunities to the various illnesses to which travelers are
>> >> exposed.
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> T.
>> >
>> >
>> > Some of us only get vacation once a year.
>>
>> So you must put your infant's life at risk, rather than
>> postpone your trip for a year? Forgive me if I perceive a
>> flaw in your priorities!
>
> Good grief, get a life. Tom seems to have one.
>
> --
> (*) ... of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate
> David Horne- http://www.davidhorne.net
> (don't email yahoo address) usenet (at) davidhorne (dot) co (dot) uk

ANYWAY >>>>>>>>>getting back to the origional query, "why not ask the
airline a telephone call should not take long"


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