Does Italy Have A Country Motto?
Feb 27th 2006, 4:58 pm
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Re: Does Italy Have A Country Motto?
Following up to Jim Pflaum
>"England...God and my right,"
hang on, you cant put *England* for UK.
Wikepedia has:-
United Kingdom Royal motto (French): Dieu et mon droit ("God and
my right")
Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes me
with impunity")
Wales (German): Ich Dien ("I serve" - Prince's motto), (Welsh) Y
ddraig goch ddyry cychwyn ("The red dragon inspires action"),
(Welsh) Cymru am byth ("Wales for ever" - unofficial)
Isle of Man (Latin): Quocunque jeceris stabit ("Whithersoever you
throw it, it will stand")
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>"England...God and my right,"
hang on, you cant put *England* for UK.
Wikepedia has:-
United Kingdom Royal motto (French): Dieu et mon droit ("God and
my right")
Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes me
with impunity")
Wales (German): Ich Dien ("I serve" - Prince's motto), (Welsh) Y
ddraig goch ddyry cychwyn ("The red dragon inspires action"),
(Welsh) Cymru am byth ("Wales for ever" - unofficial)
Isle of Man (Latin): Quocunque jeceris stabit ("Whithersoever you
throw it, it will stand")
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Feb 27th 2006, 5:03 pm
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Giovanni Drogo wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Jim Pflaum wrote:
>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
> There is a national flag, a national anthem (horrible), a national
> emblem, but not a motto. I'd use the starting words of Art. 1 of the
> Constitution of the Italian Republic
> http://www.quirinale.it/costituzione/costituzione.htm
> (although me personally I prefer Art. 11)
> On the home page of http://www.quirinale.it (which is the official
> site of the President of the Republic, you'd find links to "i simboli
> della Repubblica" (the symbols of the Republic) ... so that's the best
> reference you can get.
you are right that our National anthem is not very nice..
but it was a product of its times
word are from Goffredo Mameli .. officer that died for the defense of Rome
in 1848, villa del vascello.. ( repubblica Romana.. )
music is from Filippo Novaro.
nicer would be
Va pensiero.. from Nabucco..
but nobody till now decided to change it..
even if for our Patriotic and Independece wars it had the same meanings..
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006, Jim Pflaum wrote:
>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
> There is a national flag, a national anthem (horrible), a national
> emblem, but not a motto. I'd use the starting words of Art. 1 of the
> Constitution of the Italian Republic
> http://www.quirinale.it/costituzione/costituzione.htm
> (although me personally I prefer Art. 11)
> On the home page of http://www.quirinale.it (which is the official
> site of the President of the Republic, you'd find links to "i simboli
> della Repubblica" (the symbols of the Republic) ... so that's the best
> reference you can get.
you are right that our National anthem is not very nice..
but it was a product of its times
word are from Goffredo Mameli .. officer that died for the defense of Rome
in 1848, villa del vascello.. ( repubblica Romana.. )
music is from Filippo Novaro.
nicer would be
Va pensiero.. from Nabucco..
but nobody till now decided to change it..
even if for our Patriotic and Independece wars it had the same meanings..
Feb 27th 2006, 5:08 pm
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The wrote on Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:58:32 +0000:
??>> "England...God and my right,"
TR> hang on, you cant put *England* for UK.
TR> Wikepedia has:-
TR> United Kingdom Royal motto (French): Dieu et mon droit
TR> ("God and my right")
TR> Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes
TR> me with impunity")
As the writer of the Chard company web page
(http://www.24carat.co.uk/index.html) remarked, a more modern
translation might be �Don�t f**k with me!� IMHO, quite a
national motto!
James Silverton
Potomac Maryland.
??>> "England...God and my right,"
TR> hang on, you cant put *England* for UK.
TR> Wikepedia has:-
TR> United Kingdom Royal motto (French): Dieu et mon droit
TR> ("God and my right")
TR> Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes
TR> me with impunity")
As the writer of the Chard company web page
(http://www.24carat.co.uk/index.html) remarked, a more modern
translation might be �Don�t f**k with me!� IMHO, quite a
national motto!
James Silverton
Potomac Maryland.
Feb 27th 2006, 5:22 pm
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:56:51 +0000, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Jim Pflaum
>>Barbara, the only Italian-to-English translation for the word "ladro" I
>>found was "thief" or "robber."
>thieving government? :-)
That's it, Reid!
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to Jim Pflaum
>>Barbara, the only Italian-to-English translation for the word "ladro" I
>>found was "thief" or "robber."
>thieving government? :-)
That's it, Reid!
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Feb 27th 2006, 5:22 pm
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:54:28 +0100, chellalla'@mail.com wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:34:35 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:14:36 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>There is a national flag, a national anthem (horrible),
>>I rather like the national anthem of Italy. The words are bit
>>stultifying, but the music is nice.
>Why not the first wording of the Italians's National Anthem?
>Fratelli d'Italia, l'Italia s'e' Desta..." (Italians' Brothers,
>Italy's awake...??)
It starts out well enough, but it gets bogged down somewhere around
Cicero's helmet.
I have yet to find an Italian who knows the words, beyond the first
few lines.
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>On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:34:35 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>>On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 16:14:36 +0100, Giovanni Drogo
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>There is a national flag, a national anthem (horrible),
>>I rather like the national anthem of Italy. The words are bit
>>stultifying, but the music is nice.
>Why not the first wording of the Italians's National Anthem?
>Fratelli d'Italia, l'Italia s'e' Desta..." (Italians' Brothers,
>Italy's awake...??)
It starts out well enough, but it gets bogged down somewhere around
Cicero's helmet.
I have yet to find an Italian who knows the words, beyond the first
few lines.
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Feb 27th 2006, 5:23 pm
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Following up to James Silverton
> TR> Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes
> TR> me with impunity")
>As the writer of the Chard company web page
>(http://www.24carat.co.uk/index.html) remarked, a more modern
>translation might be �Don�t f**k with me!� IMHO, quite a
>national motto!
good innit, and very Scots! Just ask anyone who's has had to face
Scots infantry! Even worse if there's a war on.
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> TR> Scotland (Latin): Nemo me impune lacessit ("No one provokes
> TR> me with impunity")
>As the writer of the Chard company web page
>(http://www.24carat.co.uk/index.html) remarked, a more modern
>translation might be �Don�t f**k with me!� IMHO, quite a
>national motto!
good innit, and very Scots! Just ask anyone who's has had to face
Scots infantry! Even worse if there's a war on.
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Feb 27th 2006, 5:26 pm
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Following up to B Vaughan
>>thieving government? :-)
>That's it, Reid!
meo speako Italiano.
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>>thieving government? :-)
>That's it, Reid!
meo speako Italiano.
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Feb 27th 2006, 6:42 pm
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"B Vaughan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:54:28 +0100, chellalla'@mail.com wrote:
> I have yet to find an Italian who knows the words, beyond the first
> few lines.
Schumacher and his team seem to sing-along fairly robustly.
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> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:54:28 +0100, chellalla'@mail.com wrote:
> I have yet to find an Italian who knows the words, beyond the first
> few lines.
Schumacher and his team seem to sing-along fairly robustly.
Feb 27th 2006, 6:56 pm
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"Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
> motto.
Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
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> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
> motto.
Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
Feb 27th 2006, 8:22 pm
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Visitor No 3 wrote:
> Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
Pflaum response:
"Strongly with the weak people, weak person with the forts;" is that
the literal English translation No 3, or does "Forte con i deboli,
debole con i forti" mean something else?
> Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
Pflaum response:
"Strongly with the weak people, weak person with the forts;" is that
the literal English translation No 3, or does "Forte con i deboli,
debole con i forti" mean something else?
Feb 27th 2006, 8:45 pm
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 18:26:44 +0000, The Reid
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Following up to B Vaughan
>>>thieving government? :-)
>>That's it, Reid!
>meo speako Italiano.
Speaki bene!
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>Following up to B Vaughan
>>>thieving government? :-)
>>That's it, Reid!
>meo speako Italiano.
Speaki bene!
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Feb 27th 2006, 8:50 pm
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:34:35 +0100, B Vaughan<[email protected]> wrote:
>On 27 Feb 2006 06:56:07 -0800, "Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>>(e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>>mention of a motto for Itlay.
>The national motto of Italy is "Governo ladro".
LOL!
I can't imagine how painful it must be for Italians to see Silvio's
face plastered on nearly every billboard with expressions like "We
choose to move forward", "Nothing to fear", "The left think everything
is going badly - leave them to lose" and my favourite "Operation
Truth".
Well, if you look at Berlusconi's finances, everything is going just
fine. I can't wait to see his face when he loses the next election.
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>On 27 Feb 2006 06:56:07 -0800, "Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>>Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>>(e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>>mention of a motto for Itlay.
>The national motto of Italy is "Governo ladro".
LOL!
I can't imagine how painful it must be for Italians to see Silvio's
face plastered on nearly every billboard with expressions like "We
choose to move forward", "Nothing to fear", "The left think everything
is going badly - leave them to lose" and my favourite "Operation
Truth".
Well, if you look at Berlusconi's finances, everything is going just
fine. I can't wait to see his face when he loses the next election.
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Feb 27th 2006, 8:52 pm
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On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:56:15 -0000, "Visitor No 3"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>"Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
>> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
>> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
>> motto.
>Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
"Strong with the weaknesses, weak with the strengths"
I don't get it...
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>"Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
>> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
>> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
>> motto.
>Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
"Strong with the weaknesses, weak with the strengths"
I don't get it...
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Feb 27th 2006, 9:17 pm
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DDT Filled Mormons <deepfreudmoors@eITmISaACTUALLYiREAL!l.nu> wrote in
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> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:56:15 -0000, "Visitor No 3"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected] groups.com...
>>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country
motto
>>> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>>> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
>>> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
>>> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
>>> motto.
>>Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
>
> "Strong with the weaknesses, weak with the strengths"
>
> I don't get it...
It may relate to the smashing vitories agaisnt Ethiopia and the rathe
poor result against others, including Greece during WWII.
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> On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:56:15 -0000, "Visitor No 3"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>news:[email protected] groups.com...
>>> Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country
motto
>>> (e.g., In God we trust)? I've search the Net and haven't found any
>>> mention of a motto for Itlay. I even shot off an email to Italy's US
>>> embassy several weeks ago asking them the same question, but haven't
>>> heard a word back yet. Seems very strange that Italy doesn't have a
>>> motto.
>>Forte con i deboli, debole con i forti.
>
> "Strong with the weaknesses, weak with the strengths"
>
> I don't get it...
It may relate to the smashing vitories agaisnt Ethiopia and the rathe
poor result against others, including Greece during WWII.
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Feb 27th 2006, 9:20 pm
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On 27 Feb 2006 06:56:07 -0800, "Jim Pflaum" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>(e.g., In God we trust)?
As I recall from my youth, it was:
"Shaddupa you face!"
I must have heard that a million times. I assumed it was the national
motto.
- TR
wrote:
>Does anyone in this group know if Italy has an official country motto
>(e.g., In God we trust)?
As I recall from my youth, it was:
"Shaddupa you face!"
I must have heard that a million times. I assumed it was the national
motto.
- TR