Devil

Mika wrote:
    > [email protected] (amp_spamfree) wrote in message
    > news:<[email protected]. com>...
    >>"Tim Challenger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:<[email protected] hway.telekom.at>...
    >>>>And you still can't get an authentic German weinerschnitzel.
    >>>Since when was Wienerschnitzel german ?
    >>And moreover, Weiner schnitzel is not named for its origin but rather for it's
    >>preparation style - but I have had very good Weinerschnitzel in both Vienna and
    >>Salzburg, in case you were wondering.
    >>thanks for playing.
    > If you know so much about it, how come you cannot spell it correctly? Hell, why not
    > just call it cotoletta milanese?

Wouldn't that be missplelled by any chance?

    :-)

Daling

well... if you look at the German propensity for stringing words together...
separating the word into its 2 components "Wiener" (possesive of "Wien" - more
commonly in English referred to as "Vienna") and "Schnitzel" (diminutive of "cut or
slice" but more commonly used to describe a certain method of preparation of small
"schnits" (cutlets) of meat), it is used as a description of a "veal cutlet" -
whereas the "erschnit" is merely a "schnit" of the whole word... ;-)

"Miguel Cruz" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > > "Ken Blake" <[email protected]> wrote:
    > >> German wienerschnitzel? (note the spelling, by the way.) Do you know what the
    > >> "wiener" in "wienerschnitzel" means?
    > >
    > > I do. Is there a prize?
    > I'll give you a prize if you can tell me what the "erschnit" is for.
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Paul Ding <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
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    > Taft served as president *long* before Ohio became a state in 1953. But that was an
    > error - nobody realized at the time that Ohio had never been admitted to the union.
Er ... 1803?

Surreyman

Hatunen

On 15 Aug 2002 04:58:14 -0700, [email protected] (Mika) wrote:

    >[email protected] (Hatunen) wrote in message
    >news:<[email protected]>...
    >> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:23:42 +0200, Mika <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> >A strange statement, considering that the population is about (waving hands) 80%
    >> >mestizo.
    >> At least that's what they claim.
    >"They" claim to be mestizo, but really aren't? You've lost me here.

Remember, status increases with more Spanish "blood".


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Hatunen

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 09:03:26 GMT, [email protected] (Jim Ley) wrote:

    >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:39:17 GMT, [email protected] (Hatunen) wrote:
    >>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:06:43 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Section One of Artticle Two: No person except a natural born citizen, or a
    >>>citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution,
    >>>shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible
    >>>to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and
    >>>been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
    >>Oh. I forgot about the fourteen years thing.
    >It sounds rather discriminatory - if you can vote at X, why can't you be
    >president until Y.

Is that a question? If so I refer you to the Federalist Papers, which may discuss it
(it's been years since I red them).



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Hatunen

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 06:53:17 GMT, [email protected] wrote:

    >On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:36:36 GMT, Frank Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Gee what happens if you have two US citizen parents but are not yourself eligible
    >>for citizenship because they haven't lived for long enough in the US and you
    >>weren't born here. Could you run as a non-citizen?
    >>Frank Matthews
    >SNIP
    >What are you talking about? If, a baby is born to two US citizens the baby him or
    >herself is a US citizen. E.G. George Romney's parents were US citizens residing in
    >Mexico when he was born, ergo he was a US citizen at the time of his birth. How the
    >parents got US citizenship is irrelevant.

The question was just ambiguous enough that I too another meaning to it, but I think
yours is correct.

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Anonymouse

what?

if both of your parents are US citizens you are a US citizen the moment you are born.

Frank Matthews wrote:
    > Gee what happens if you have two US citizen parents but are not yourself eligible
    > for citizenship because they haven't lived for long enough in the US and you
    > weren't born here. Could you run as a non-citizen?
    > Frank Matthews
    > Paul Tauger wrote:
    >> "Not the Karl Orff" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]
    >> .shawcable.net    ...
    >>> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] (Hatunen)
    >>> wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:27:01 GMT, Frank Matthews <[email protected]>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>> Gee! I guess we have already had a Hispanic candidate for US president then.
    >>>>> As I remember it Barry Goldwater was born in Mexico.
    >>>> You remember wrong. Presidential candidate George Romney was born in Mexico.
    >>> So constitutionally, he couldn't have been sworn in as president if he won?
    >> Why? The presidency is restricted to natural-born citizens, as opposed to
    >> naturalized citizens. However, being a natural-born citizen doesn't require birth
    >> within the U.S. -- having a U.S. citizen parent will do it.

Anonymouse

nope... US Citizen from the moment of birth... doing the paperwork promptly will make
it easier later on though.

this person (the child born to 2 US citizens abroad) may also be a citizen of the
country in which he/she was born... but not necessarily.

    > Not necessarily.
    > If I was a US citizen living outside the US, and I'd never been to the US, and I
    > had a child with another person in the same situation, I don't think the child
    > would be eligible for citizenship.
    > miguel

Hatunen

On 15 Aug 2002 05:15:00 -0700, [email protected] (Mika) wrote:

    >devil <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:<[email protected]>...
    >> Not the Karl Orff wrote:
    >> > Integrated into Germany or at least what the Germans prolciamed then perhaps.
    >> > The Allies held that Austria was occupied.
    >> But that was a cold war gimmick because of convenience on both sides of the fence.
    >> It's not as if the Anschluss wasn't welcome by a sizeable proportion of the
    >> population at the time.
    >Yeah, so what? A referendum in 1918 would have had the same result. Minus Adolf.

That's pure conjecture. I have my doubts; the Austrians have always had a strong
patriotic streak and considered the Austro-Hungarian Empire far superior to
Bismarck's Reich. In fact, even Germany was still pretty loosely held together until
Hitler forced the submission of the laender to Berlin's authority.


    >M

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Hatunen

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 07:03:14 GMT, [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:

    >Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> "Ken Blake" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> German wienerschnitzel? (note the spelling, by the way.) Do you know what the
    >>> "wiener" in "wienerschnitzel" means?
    >> I do. Is there a prize?
    >I'll give you a prize if you can tell me what the "erschnit" is for.

What's the prize (I don't come cheap)?


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Frank Matthews

I believe that there is a requirement that citizenship passes to children only if the
parent has been a resident of the US for a period of time. I have forgotten the time
but remember something on the order of 6-8 years. Thus the child of a US citizen who
has always resided abroad will not qualify.

Frank Matthews

[email protected] wrote:

    > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 00:36:36 GMT, Frank Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Gee what happens if you have two US citizen parents but are not yourself eligible
    >>for citizenship because they haven't lived for long enough in the US and you
    >>weren't born here. Could you run as a non-citizen?
    >>Frank Matthews
    > SNIP
    > What are you talking about? If, a baby is born to two US citizens the baby him or
    > herself is a US citizen. E.G. George Romney's parents were US citizens residing in
    > Mexico when he was born, ergo he was a US citizen at the time of his birth. How
    > the parents got US citizenship is irrelevant.

Frank Matthews

I think that it only applies if you have not been a US resident for some number of
years. I'm not sure how many I remember 6-8 years.

Frank Matthews

Miguel Cruz wrote:

    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>Frank Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Gee what happens if you have two US citizen parents but are not yourself eligible
    >>>for citizenship because they haven't lived for long enough in the US and you
    >>>weren't born here. Could you run as a non-citizen?
    >>What are you talking about? If, a baby is born to two US citizens the baby him or
    >>herself is a US citizen. E.G. George Romney's parents were US citizens residing in
    >>Mexico when he was born, ergo he was a US citizen at the time of his birth. How
    >>the parents got US citizenship is irrelevant.
    > Not necessarily.
    > If I was a US citizen living outside the US, and I'd never been to the US, and I
    > had a child with another person in the same situation, I don't think the child
    > would be eligible for citizenship.
    > miguel

Miguel Cruz

Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    > [email protected] (Miguel Cruz) wrote:
    >> Hatunen <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> "Ken Blake" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> German wienerschnitzel? (note the spelling, by the way.) Do you know what the
    >>>> "wiener" in "wienerschnitzel" means?
    >>> I do. Is there a prize?
    >> I'll give you a prize if you can tell me what the "erschnit" is for.
    > What's the prize (I don't come cheap)?

Du kamst zu spaet an. DAL hat schon den Preis gewonnen.

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Frank Matthews

Of course it's discriminatory. But the US constitution is allowed to be
discriminatory.

Frank Matthews

Jim Ley wrote:

    > On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 03:39:17 GMT, [email protected] (Hatunen) wrote:
    >>On Thu, 15 Aug 2002 02:06:43 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>Section One of Artticle Two: No person except a natural born citizen, or a
    >>>citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution,
    >>>shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible
    >>>to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and
    >>>been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.
    >>Oh. I forgot about the fourteen years thing.
    > It sounds rather discriminatory - if you can vote at X, why can't you be president
    > until Y.
    > Jim.

Miguel Cruz

On Thu, 15 Aug 2002, Frank Matthews wrote:
    > Miguel Cruz wrote:
    >> <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> Frank Matthews <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>> Gee what happens if you have two US citizen parents but are not yourself
    >>>> eligible for citizenship because they haven't lived for long enough in the US
    >>>> and you weren't born here. Could you run as a non-citizen?
    >>> What are you talking about? If, a baby is born to two US citizens the baby him
    >>> or herself is a US citizen. E.G. George Romney's parents were US citizens
    >>> residing in Mexico when he was born, ergo he was a US citizen at the time of his
    >>> birth. How the parents got US citizenship is irrelevant.
    >> Not necessarily.
    >> If I was a US citizen living outside the US, and I'd never been to the US, and I
    >> had a child with another person in the same situation, I don't think the child
    >> would be eligible for citizenship.
    > I think that it only applies if you have not been a US resident for some number of
    > years. I'm not sure how many I remember 6-8 years.

Right, but in my example the parents have not been US residents at any point in their
lives, which presumably is less than 6-8 years...

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