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scrubbedexpat141 Jun 12th 2012 7:08 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116053)
Quite. And why would you want to offend other people? I know I am somewhat idealistic, but if we ALL considered other people a little more, all our lives would be a little nicer.


As someone pointed out earlier, I do think that a lot of the offenders are tourists, not residents. It's just easier for certain parties to point the finger at expats, by which they largely mean (white) Western expats. Maybe the hotels should have a word with them before they leave the premises for a trip to the mall?

Exactly, why deliberatley try to piss people off / cause offence? Which lends me to think if you do it, you're either an ignorant helmet and deserve trouble or you're the second suggestion of being an ill informed tourist...despite the big signs on all the sliding doors...

Although I'm sure when the most of us have people visiting we are telling them what's acceptable and not.

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 12th 2012 7:10 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116058)
Really? The act of shoving into someone doesn't cause offence?

Double standards all round. :frown:

I'd quite like to walk around the mall with the attitude that I don't have to move out the way. I'm sure the first group of local women / men that have the divine right to spread all crowds before them would get upset.

Still, not worth the hassle is it.

Meow Jun 12th 2012 7:13 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10116065)
I'd quite like to walk around the mall with the attitude that I don't have to move out the way. I'm sure the first group of local women / men that have the divine right to spread all crowds before them would get upset.

Still, not worth the hassle is it.


I have told numerous people off for not looking where they are going or shoving into me. Ditto with queue jumpers. No one has a divine right to be rude. I don't care where they are from and I am polite about it but very firm. Reaction is usually an apology or blank confusion.

shiva Jun 12th 2012 7:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116071)
blank confusion.

that's the bit that really gets to me, not being aware that what was done is not on, offensive or just down right ****ing ignorant

scrubbedexpat141 Jun 12th 2012 7:30 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116071)
I have told numerous people off for not looking where they are going or shoving into me. Ditto with queue jumpers. No one has a divine right to be rude. I don't care where they are from and I am polite about it but very firm. Reaction is usually an apology or blank confusion.

Yeah, some days I'll just deal with someone walking in front of me in the queue, other days I'll say something.

The one that I never fail to abuse someone for is not saying thank you for holding the door or lift or waiting for them to walk ahead of you etc.

Those are almost daily, although yesterday a Chinese woman bowed and said thank you when I held the door for her. That was awesome.

Meow Jun 12th 2012 7:41 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 
7days is running a poll on this topic with the question: Do you think the UAE needs a dress-code law?

Results to far

Abu Dhabi http://www.7daysinabudhabi.com/home

0% - Yes, people should respect the country’s culture and heritage.
0% - Perhaps, but it depends on what the law says.
100% - No, it is better to educate residents than impose a dress code

Dubai http://www.7daysindubai.com/home

Yes, people should respect the country’s culture and heritage.
13%Perhaps, but it depends on what the law says.
88% No, it is better to educate residents than impose a dress code

norsk Jun 12th 2012 8:25 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Debowing (Post 10115931)
It is THEIR country so they can and they do these things and that is a major reason why I chose to raise my son elsewhere.:thumbup:

Why do we as expats say things like this? Why does the fact they are born here give them the right to behave as pricks? Saying it's their country to do what they like legitimises behaviour which would be considered unacceptable in any other country. It's nothing more than a bad excuse....

Meow Jun 12th 2012 8:26 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by norsk (Post 10116164)
Why do we as expats say things like this? Why does the fact they are born here give them the right to behave as pricks? Saying it's their country to do what they like legitimises behaviour which would be considered unacceptable in any other country. It's nothing more than a bad excuse....

:goodpost:

Meow Jun 12th 2012 8:29 pm

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Is the government really going to pass a law that will adversely affect this?

http://www.zawya.com/story/Dubai_vis...emailmarketing

Dubai visitor spending to hit Dh32 billion

Alexa Jun 12th 2012 9:26 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10115716)
As insulting as my post is? You are a hypocrite as you insulted the women here and everywhere else by clearly stating that what they wear, the abaya, is hideous. THAT my dear is insulting.

I have never said that an abaya is hideous, in fact, in never mentioned an abaya in any of my posts...IF you care to read my post, I mentioned a burqa. BIG difference, non?
You on the other hand, have likened me to a prostitute...and THAT is insulting.

Alexa Jun 12th 2012 9:34 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116024)
It seems to me that much of the argument about the dress code in the UAE is not really about clothing, it's about power and control. It's barely about religion either, being more cultural as no law states the a muslim woman has to cover her head or face.

It's really not hard to cover your shoulders and thighs when out in public. Most of us understand that and have no desire to offend anyone. Quite how you get it across to the minority I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think a heavy-handed law is the way to do it.

Exactly, it is not about clothes , it is about POWER and the ability to exert it. As simple as that.
And that is the exact reason why there is no and will not be an official statement that is clear and tells us to cover up..as that would make the country lose the status it wants to portray to the rest of the world.
But they do have to bend to the "conservatives" somewhat.
Hence, a lot of hullaballoo and rhetoric.

britexpat76 Jun 12th 2012 10:01 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Scamp (Post 10116102)
Yeah, some days I'll just deal with someone walking in front of me in the queue, other days I'll say something.

The one that I never fail to abuse someone for is not saying thank you for holding the door or lift or waiting for them to walk ahead of you etc.

Those are almost daily, although yesterday a Chinese woman bowed and said thank you when I held the door for her. That was awesome.

That is a red rag to a bull for me, I usually shout thank you at them and your welcome, then something to do with ignorant twat.

But is that how they behave at home?? Most of Eastern Europe and here they are not trained in Please and Thank you. My Lebbo Salesman will always say "Cigarette" until prompted to say the magic word. I had poles as friends that were the same

jackthehat Jun 12th 2012 10:19 pm

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The Joys of Dubai No 144

The queue is only one deep but twenty-five wide!

mikewot Jun 12th 2012 10:21 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by britexpat76 (Post 10116293)
Most of Eastern Europe and here they are not trained in Please and Thank you.

I lived in Germany for 6 years and they don't say please nor do they queue. Quite amusing to see the looks on peoples faces who are handing out pamphlets etc when you say no thank you, they don't understand why they're being thanked :)

Millhouse Jun 12th 2012 10:26 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116115)
7days is running a poll on this topic with the question: Do you think the UAE needs a dress-code law?

Results to far

Abu Dhabi http://www.7daysinabudhabi.com/home

0% - Yes, people should respect the country’s culture and heritage.
0% - Perhaps, but it depends on what the law says.
100% - No, it is better to educate residents than impose a dress code

Dubai http://www.7daysindubai.com/home

Yes, people should respect the country’s culture and heritage.
13%Perhaps, but it depends on what the law says.
88% No, it is better to educate residents than impose a dress code

wow. It's like a full on referendum.


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