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Maxima Jun 12th 2012 10:29 pm

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The majority of Gulf News comments supports a dress code, does that reflect the general opinion...?

Some gems include

I personally respect local culture and their life style and rich Islamic heritage. We should respect this country's laws. We thankful to this country, its Citizens, and Authorities who allow us with respect to come and work here. Alhamdulullah we are securing our and our children's bright futures here, which was almost impossible in our home country

WELL DONE. Vulgrity should be banned. we are Muslim and its our way. if France and Denmark can, THEN WHY CANT WE


Dress code has to be applicable not only in malls, functions, ceremonies, but also at all UAE beaches, especially Dubai. Somehow people tend to forget that young children and families visit beaches as well. But when you go there, the indecent sights shock you to the core though you try not to look at those people

Mashaallah, each and every Muslim brother and sister should accept this news and share this idea among the non-Muslims. And this is the best way to spread hijab and the culture of our most precious religion.

Alexa Jun 12th 2012 10:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Maxima (Post 10116337)
The majority of Gulf News comments supports a dress code, does that reflect the general opinion...?

Some gems include

I personally respect local culture and their life style and rich Islamic heritage. We should respect this country's laws. We thankful to this country, its Citizens, and Authorities who allow us with respect to come and work here. Alhamdulullah we are securing our and our children's bright futures here, which was almost impossible in our home country

WELL DONE. Vulgrity should be banned. we are Muslim and its our way. if France and Denmark can, THEN WHY CANT WE


Dress code has to be applicable not only in malls, functions, ceremonies, but also at all UAE beaches, especially Dubai. Somehow people tend to forget that young children and families visit beaches as well. But when you go there, the indecent sights shock you to the core though you try not to look at those people

Mashaallah, each and every Muslim brother and sister should accept this news and share this idea among the non-Muslims. And this is the best way to spread hijab and the culture of our most precious religion.



There you go.........

Maxima Jun 12th 2012 10:47 pm

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The fact that an article on Dress Codes attracts 10 times the attention an article on driving, safety and so on shows where priorities lie: have to say though most people commenting in Gulf News seem to be from 1 or 2 countries....

mathematist Jun 12th 2012 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Alexa (Post 10116244)
I have never said that an abaya is hideous, in fact, in never mentioned an abaya in any of my posts...IF you care to read my post, I mentioned a burqa. BIG difference, non?
You on the other hand, have likened me to a prostitute...and THAT is insulting.

Sorry love, but we're talking about the uae, not Kabul so why were you referring to a Burqa? I have not likened you to prozzie, but the pics on The National, Gulf News and Khaleej times show women who wear next to nothing in the malls, very prozzie/night club like don't you think?

If you wear that, it's your choice and that is what most of the sensible posters here are saying, why wear very little when you know you're certainly offending people?

shiva Jun 12th 2012 11:11 pm

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you seem to have an obsession with the word prozzie. speaks volumes that does

Kix Jun 12th 2012 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10116405)
Sorry love, but we're talking about the uae, not Kabul so why were you referring to a Burqa? I have not likened you to prozzie, but the pics on The National, Gulf News and Khaleej times show women who wear next to nothing in the malls, very prozzie/night club like don't you think?

If you wear that, it's your choice and that is what most of the sensible posters here are saying, why wear very little when you know you're certainly offending people?

What about all the abaya wearing Emirati prozzies that hang around behind Union Co-op in Al Safa and do "tricks" for a "gift".

Just cos someone is dressed in a manner that YOU think is too short etc., it does not make them a prozzie.

Meow Jun 12th 2012 11:20 pm

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Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10116405)
Sorry love, but we're talking about the uae, not Kabul so why were you referring to a Burqa? I have not likened you to prozzie, but the pics on The National, Gulf News and Khaleej times show women who wear next to nothing in the malls, very prozzie/night club like don't you think?

If you wear that, it's your choice and that is what most of the sensible posters here are saying, why wear very little when you know you're certainly offending people?

From your comments it appears that you equate short skirts with prostitution. That's a very strange link to make and simultaneously sexist, simplistic, narrow-minded and ignorant.

I find it interesting that certain people only think about clothing when they are claiming indecency. Personally I think it is indecent how many workers are treated in the GCC, how nationality decides your place in society, the excessive consumption and how girls are forced into early marriage. And that's just for starters.

mathematist Jun 12th 2012 11:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Kix (Post 10116417)
What about all the abaya wearing Emirati prozzies that hang around behind Union Co-op in Al Safa and do "tricks" for a "gift".

Just cos someone is dressed in a manner that YOU think is too short etc., it does not make them a prozzie.

If I was the ONLY one who thought there was an issue with the' minimal clothes' brigades, this wouldnot be discussed so widely by the media and by the ministers of the country.

Ok, I'll stop using the word prozzie as that upsets people. Shall I use Essex terminology and say dressed like a slut or sl@g then?

britexpat76 Jun 12th 2012 11:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Kix (Post 10116417)
What about all the abaya wearing Emirati prozzies that hang around behind Union Co-op in Al Safa and do "tricks" for a "gift".

Just cos someone is dressed in a manner that YOU think is too short etc., it does not make them a prozzie.

I think all fat ugly birds should be made to wear an Abaya. Fat women in boob tubes and leggings I find massively offensive. All fit ones should wear Bikini's/Hotpants or skinny jeans if its a little chilly.

Alexa Jun 12th 2012 11:26 pm

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I simply do not understand how somebody can be offended by what another person is wearing. One can think it ugly, badly dressed, laugh at it....sure. But being offended? One would have to assume that this badly dressed person donned those clothes just to pee another person off....and i seriously doubt that is the reason people dress the way they do.
There is just no logic in this for me.
I tell you what offends me, being called indecent for what I wear. That is offensive to me.

lullabelle Jun 12th 2012 11:26 pm

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Twitter was ABLAZE yesterday about this. The Dubai part of my timeline was all #UAEdresscode and the uk part #leveson.

It got very nasty (dress code) with locals being quite incredibly rude accusing westerners of having sex in public and of being criminals in their own countries. Not forgetting that old favourite "go home." There are definite UAE ringleaders and their opinions are not moderate in any way.

There was real hysteria - and it reminded me of something like the Salem witch trials where more and more people get wound up into something really ugly. One friend was threatened with the police and court. It turned crazy.

I have to say that there were many locals who were absolutely horrified at the insults and mud slinging and were calling for calm and peace and an end to the racism. A considerable number of them were young Emirati women who were very vocal and lucid. They were in turn harassed and real threats were being bandied about. But to me, this showed the extent of how this IS about control and a feeling of powerlessness. Marry that with an inflated sense of importance and the "my wasta is bigger than your wasta" brigade and there's no wonder it turns into a bunfight.

Meow Jun 12th 2012 11:28 pm

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Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10116432)
If I was the ONLY one who thought there was an issue with the' minimal clothes' brigades, this wouldnot be discussed so widely by the media and by the ministers of the country.

Ok, I'll stop using the word prozzie as that upsets people. Shall I use Essex terminology and say dressed like a slut or sl@g then?

No. You can stop using offensive assumptions when referring to clothes. You just sound like a narrow-minded twat.

Meow Jun 12th 2012 11:31 pm

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Originally Posted by lullabelle (Post 10116441)
Twitter was ABLAZE yesterday about this. The Dubai part of my timeline was all #UAEdresscode and the uk part #leveson.

It got very nasty (dress code) with locals being quite incredibly rude accusing westerners of having sex in public and of being criminals in their own countries. Not forgetting that old favourite "go home." There are definite UAE ringleaders and their opinions are not moderate in any way.

There was real hysteria - and it reminded me of something like the Salem witch trials where more and more people get wound up into something really ugly. One friend was threatened with the police and court. It turned crazy.

I have to say that there were many locals who were absolutely horrified at the insults and mud slinging and were calling for calm and peace and an end to the racism. A considerable number of them were young Emirati women who were very vocal and lucid. They were in turn harassed and real threats were being bandied about. But to me, this showed the extent of how this IS about control and a feeling of powerlessness. Marry that with an inflated sense of importance and the "my wasta is bigger than your wasta" brigade and there's no wonder it turns into a bunfight.

I saw some of that. Really quite nasty and aggresive. The total lack of tolerance or the abuse thrown about was appalling. The locals who were behind it did themselves no favours and I suspect that most have zero wasta or they'd be doing something constructive, rather than trying to bully strangers via social media.


And let's make it quite clear, this is not about culture, it's the impact of religion. You only have to look at how women dressed in the region 30-40 years ago to understand that.

Alexa Jun 12th 2012 11:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10116449)
I saw some of that. Really quite nasty and aggresive. The total lack of tolerance or the abuse thrown about was appalling. The locals who were behind it did themselves no favours and I suspect that most have zero wasta or they'd be doing something constructive, rather than trying to bully strangers via social media.


And let's make it wuite clear, this is not about culture, it's the impact of religion. You only have to look at how women dressed in the region 30-40 years ago to understand that.


If all of them were , indeed, locals.

mikewot Jun 13th 2012 12:27 am

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It's now very common to hear people say "I'm rather offended by that" As if it gives them certain rights; it's actually nothing more....It's simply a whine. It's no more than a whine. "I find that offensive", it has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I am offended by that", well so f***ing what?

Stephen Fry


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