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Oyibopeppeh May 24th 2012 6:38 am

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 10080046)
folks you all seem to be getting your knickers in a twist - the UAE/Dubai is NOT an islamic country, far from it, its a Muslim country - two very totally different things.


Since when has Dubai been a country? It's not even the damn capital

Meow May 25th 2012 3:08 am

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 10080046)
folks you all seem to be getting your knickers in a twist - the UAE/Dubai is NOT an islamic country, far from it, its a Muslim country - two very totally different things.


Semantics, surely? What's the difference in real terms? I think we are all dying to be enlightened...

Ronnie Biggs May 25th 2012 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by Meow (Post 10081786)
Semantics, surely? What's the difference in real terms? I think we are all dying to be enlightened...

Don't get your knickers in a twist...it's not semantics, it's just different word meanings.

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mission May 26th 2012 10:54 pm

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jeeze you folks really do get into a pickle over the slightest things said on here...seriously no wonder brits are known as uptight arrogant b*stards.

an islamic country is one which is ruled as per the shariah laws - ie fully adhered to the laws of islam.

Meow May 26th 2012 10:58 pm

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 10084610)
jeeze you folks really do get into a pickle over the slightest things said on here...seriously no wonder brits are known as uptight arrogant b*stards.

an islamic country is one which is ruled as per the shariah laws - ie fully adhered to the laws of islam.

Are you trying to suggest that the UAE does not adhere to Sharia'a law in any way? If that's the case you really don't understand the legal system here.

Uptight arrogant bastards? That's charming, considering this is BRITISH expats and you are voluntarily posting here. Some of us like silly sweeping comments to be explained, rather than accepting a load of nonsense.

:rolleyes:

norsk May 27th 2012 6:43 am

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why get upset by this little troll who regularly comes back to spout her crap? first time i've seen it as anti-british though. usually it's always been anti-white..

anyway. there is no such distinction as put forward. islam is a religion and muslim is a person of the islamic faith. sharia is the moral code and religious law of islam. not that confusing if you spend 30 seconds attempting to understand it...

mathematist May 29th 2012 5:48 pm

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Another article in the paper today. Dare I say it, is it gaining some momentum this campaign? Let's hope so...

http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ist-dress-code

Boomhauer May 29th 2012 9:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs (Post 10058834)
If you base a key part of your economy on bringing in tourists to beach hotels in a hot country then people will relax and wear Summer clothes. If your eyes really can't handle that, don't invite them in the first place.

:thumbup:

Norm_uk May 29th 2012 9:25 pm

Re: Lack of Clothes - again
 

Originally Posted by mission (Post 10084610)
jeeze you folks really do get into a pickle over the slightest things said on here...seriously no wonder brits are known as uptight arrogant b*stards.

an islamic country is one which is ruled as per the shariah laws - ie fully adhered to the laws of islam.

That should read "fully adhered to their interpretation of laws of islam". There are at least major four schools of jurisprudence in Islam.

Of course Brits are uptight - we'd rather be right than liked.

N.

mathematist Jun 10th 2012 4:24 pm

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http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/go...code-1.1034234

Looks like this is being taken more seriously than we thought, about bloody time too. Sorry ladies of all nationalities, the times when you are dressed immodestly / slapper-like is coming to an end.

mikewot Jun 10th 2012 4:29 pm

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Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10111721)
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/go...code-1.1034234

Looks like this is being taken more seriously than we thought,

Good luck with that. And how will it be enforced? I think the police have enough to do so what next mutawa in Dubai?

mathematist Jun 10th 2012 4:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Norm_uk (Post 10090368)
That should read "fully adhered to their interpretation of laws of islam". There are at least major four schools of jurisprudence in Islam.

Of course Brits are uptight - we'd rather be right than liked.

N.

Yeah and from what I know, the requirements in the 4 schools of thought are quite simple. Dress modestly and not reveal parts of your body for women. No calculations or interpretations on that one.

Long live the UAE.

Maybe an in between the Mutawa and something here to enforce.

shiva Jun 10th 2012 4:58 pm

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any form of mutawa here would finish dubai. with the income generated by tourism any form of real crackdown would cripple the govts finances. There is a reason that this issue has been going on for years and the powers that be haven't done a thing.

a moral police would scare tourists off very very quickly, tourists are notoriously fickle and frequently change habits to the next "in" place.
Dubai could kiss all that cash goodbye and would have to be funded by Abu Dhabi, now that may be something Abu Dhabi would be willing to do but it would not please the govt in Dubai

mathematist Jun 10th 2012 5:32 pm

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What's there to be scared out? Having spoken to mainly locals, it greatly upsets them especially families, that the level tolerance is being taken advantage of.

That's why I am so much against revealing clothing but aren't we all especially with the over-sexualisation of society?

It does deeply offend them but they are too polite to say anything. I doubt the Mutawa approach will work now but a mass approved campaign, a big push to get the message through. What about the readily available abayas like they have at the Grand Mosque?

That takes me to another point, no joke, even outside the Mosque, the lack of clothing before the abaya is given to them is unbelievable. Definitely, a big media campaign required...

shiva Jun 10th 2012 5:54 pm

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Originally Posted by mathematist (Post 10111780)
Definitely, a big media campaign required...

do you really believe that the govt dont know this and that they dont know what will happen if they crack down

who could ensure and in fact has to authorize the information is disseminated on the planes, in the airport and hotels?

who has chosen not to do so?

for the record i actually think that visiting a mall in a bikini is a bit much ( unless the wearer is a bit tasty) but i know exactly what will happen after a knee jerk reaction and who will suffer.
My business wont suffer one bit if tourism dies, most expats business wont suffer....


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