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Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by al dente
(Post 10124274)
THere were far more burqa's than i have seen for a long time. Usually there are many ladies wearing a hijab but there seemed to me more women only showing their eyes than I have ever seen before. Widening the gap... (not of material obv, but of values ;))
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Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by al dente
(Post 10124274)
I was in dubai mall today.
THere were far more burqa's than i have seen for a long time. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Nice one Biggsy...
Clearly, people have been reading this thread and the twitter postings too. Glad to see the positive impact it is having on people's attire too in the malls. Well done to all concerned... |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by al dente
(Post 10124274)
I was in dubai mall today.
Casting a shifty around, two things became appararent. There a many, many people bearing shoulders and knees. Not all western expats either. In fact, it did make you think, they may have a point. THere were far more burqa's than i have seen for a long time. Usually there are many ladies wearing a hijab but there seemed to me more women only showing their eyes than I have ever seen before. Widening the gap... (not of material obv, but of values ;)) Mrs and I went to Dubai mall yesterday and she was even more careful than normal with what she wore. Ended in floor length skirt, top with a cardigan....purely because it was a religious hol. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by mathematist
(Post 10124936)
Nice one Biggsy...
Clearly, people have been reading this thread and the twitter postings too. Glad to see the positive impact it is having on people's attire too in the malls. Well done to all concerned... Mathematist - a well-intenitoned question for you - when you're in the UK in the Summertime, maybe in a park...and you see people relaxing with their friends in :ohmy: Summer clothes, does this offend you? Or is your offence location specific to the Middle East. Were you born and raised here (in which case I would better understand your views) or have you formed them since moving here? |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by kittycat1
(Post 10120442)
that is ridiculous- and no girl has ever worn a sexy pair of trousers? I can remember we weren't allowed to wear trousers at school- had to be a skirt- was meant to be knee length but we always rolled them up at the waist, in fact Im pretty sure girls were doing it in the 60's the 70's and every decade since- maybe more sex education and confidence building sessions may help rather than banning things
And I agree, it is ridiculous. N. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Well intentioned questioned appreciated Biggsy... Let's just say I've experienced the best (and worst) of both worlds so to say...
In the UK, it's not a culture where people cover up now so I don't kick up a fuss about it and why should I? Most of the non-native Brits from the sub-continent lot, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Africans, far east, DO dress differently and it's a personal, cultural or a religious choice. If there's a place where I feel that it's not appropriate for the family and I, I'd avoid it. Mind you though, it's fair to say that it's a lot colder in the UK for MOST of the year hence people keep their clothes on, malls or otherwise... The UK is not a Muslim majority country and the laws and regulations are different and so most people just get on with it and not get offended who are from an ethnically different background. However, when voices need to be raised such as the opening of a strip club in the locality, people of all backgrounds write to their MPs and go about it in the correct way. However, here, it's a different religion and culture where there definitely is an expected dress code and generally a modest attire hence you don't see non-western men and women wearing shorts and very little / tight clothes but there are exceptions such the Philipino and a few other groups. Of course, the younger generation here in the UAE can and do push the (local) limits too in their teenage rebellion phase but when they mature, marriage, families and so on, I firmly believe they are unanimous in what they should and shouldn't see in a family place such as a mall. I also think that all the generalisations about Arab men frequenting bars and 'buying' women are taken out of proportion too. Many go, most don't. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by mathematist
(Post 10125007)
Well intentioned questioned appreciated Biggsy... Let's just say I've experienced the best (and worst) of both worlds so to say...
In the UK, it's not a culture where people cover up now so I don't kick up a fuss about it and why should I? Most of the non-native Brits from the sub-continent lot, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Africans, far east, DO dress differently and it's a personal, cultural or a religious choice. If there's a place where I feel that it's not appropriate for the family and I, I'd avoid it. Mind you though, it's fair to say that it's a lot colder in the UK for MOST of the year hence people keep their clothes on, malls or otherwise... The UK is not a Muslim majority country and the laws and regulations are different and so most people just get on with it and not get offended who are from an ethnically different background. However, when voices need to be raised such as the opening of a strip club in the locality, people of all backgrounds write to their MPs and go about it in the correct way. However, here, it's a different religion and culture where there definitely is an expected dress code and generally a modest attire hence you don't see non-western men and women wearing shorts and very little / tight clothes but there are exceptions such the Philipino and a few other groups. Of course, the younger generation here in the UAE can and do push the (local) limits too in their teenage rebellion phase but when they mature, marriage, families and so on, I firmly believe they are unanimous in what they should and shouldn't see in a family place such as a mall. I also think that all the generalisations about Arab men frequenting bars and 'buying' women are taken out of proportion too. Many go, most don't. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by norsk
(Post 10125106)
Why is that for every other country when we talk about majority/minority all people living there are taken into account, but here in the ME the expats are effectively ignored....
I hope it all remains calm and a proper effort is made within the travel industry, the embassies, schools and the media to educate the morons with some sensitivity. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Judging from what I saw in a coffee shop in JLT this morning the message isn't getting through to everyone. A group of older women (westerners) were playing Mahjong and one of them was in a frock with tiny straps. Not only was it more suited to the beach, it was rather age inappropriate.
I just isn't that hard to cover your shoulders. |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Slightly off tangent, but it's not all one-way:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680620 |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by Ronnie Biggs
(Post 10124952)
Whilst I consider people walking around in inappropriate-for-location clothing a bit naive I still prefer to see people relaxed and happy - can that coexist with laws about the length of a dress or the thickness of a strap? Can't we all just accept eachother in all our different quirks and styles? Surely being in the middle of the world, this is all just inevitable....
Mathematist - a well-intenitoned question for you - when you're in the UK in the Summertime, maybe in a park...and you see people relaxing with their friends in :ohmy: Summer clothes, does this offend you? Or is your offence location specific to the Middle East. Were you born and raised here (in which case I would better understand your views) or have you formed them since moving here? |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by desert_dwellers
(Post 10125261)
Code of dress in public also exists in the UK, private parts are to be covered at all times regardless of the weather or else get arrested :)
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Re: Lack of Clothes - again
So Gulf News isn't paying much attention to the UAE Dress Code then, judging by their recommendations for dresses.
http://gulfnews.com/pictures/life-st...mmer-1.1032028 |
Re: Lack of Clothes - again
Originally Posted by Meow
(Post 10125265)
What a strange contribution. What is the relevance, as that is the case just about everywhere in the world?
As for the post, nudity is not illegal in the uk. You can however be arrested and charged with causing an offence, if someone does take offence and complain. Charges are brought infrequently and usually it's a minor fine and a bit of a laugh in the papers. |
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