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Novocastrian Apr 29th 2012 9:35 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10031970)
So let me get this right, if newcastle finish 4th and Chelsea win the champions league, Newcastle do not qualify for next season champions league - is that right?

Not quite. The same would be true for Spurs if (when) they finish 4th.

Oink Apr 29th 2012 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10031970)
So let me get this right, if newcastle finish 4th and Chelsea win the champions league, Newcastle do not qualify for next season champions league - is that right?

That is correct.

fletcher m Apr 29th 2012 9:37 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10031972)
Not quite. The same would be true for Spurs if (when) they finish 4th.

well back to the original scenario......i suspect newcastle will be breaking legs on wednesday to add to the woe of chelsea in the Champions league. wouldn't want to ref that match, wouldn't want to miss it either.

fletcher m Apr 29th 2012 9:38 am

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an old fashioned 1970's game!

JamesM Apr 29th 2012 9:53 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10031938)
Which candidate would prompt a euphoric response?

I agree.

I think Hodgson is a good appointment. He has had previous tournament experience with Switzerland and he is a better tactician than Redknapp. Most of his managerial appointments have been successful and if we are going to have an Englishman in charge then we probably have the right one.

It's a shame I thought Pep Gaurdiola was going to be the next Spurs boss briefly.

Novocastrian Apr 29th 2012 10:07 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10031981)
well back to the original scenario......i suspect newcastle will be breaking legs on wednesday to add to the woe of chelsea in the Champions league. wouldn't want to ref that match, wouldn't want to miss it either.

We're not Chelsea. Wash your brain out.

DaveLovesDee Apr 29th 2012 11:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10031715)
It was a good result. Just have win all of our remaining three games, hope the Geordies win all theirs one-nil and have the scum lose or draw theirs. :thumbup:

But I thought you supported Spurs! :p

JamesM Apr 30th 2012 3:02 am

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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee (Post 10032813)
But I thought you supported Spurs! :p

I thought you were changing your name back?

jimf Apr 30th 2012 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 10032011)
I agree.

I think Hodgson is a good appointment. He has had previous tournament experience with Switzerland and he is a better tactician than Redknapp. Most of his managerial appointments have been successful and if we are going to have an Englishman in charge then we probably have the right one.

It's a shame I thought Pep Gaurdiola was going to be the next Spurs boss briefly.

I read that in 40 years of management Rednapp has won the FA cup once and the old third division with Bournmouth. Obviously he has family connections in the football industry which must have helped his career over the years. He is fairly entertaining as a sort of pantomime character but as England manager I think he'd be a disaster.

The real black mark against Hodgson is failure at Liverpool but generally he has improved teams he's managed. I noticed an interesting statistic on his time as Finland manager - the win % was fairly average but all the wins came in qualifying matches and all the defeats in friendlies.

fletcher m Apr 30th 2012 5:30 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10032038)
We're not Chelsea. Wash your brain out.

Oh I forgot, it is EPL, anything resembling a tackle will result in 5 mins of rolling around in panto comedy! 18 tackles and the game would be over.;)

Let us see what happens on Wednesday.:fingerscrossed:

JamesM Apr 30th 2012 6:27 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10033247)
I read that in 40 years of management Rednapp has won the FA cup once and the old third division with Bournmouth. Obviously he has family connections in the football industry which must have helped his career over the years. He is fairly entertaining as a sort of pantomime character but as England manager I think he'd be a disaster.

The real black mark against Hodgson is failure at Liverpool but generally he has improved teams he's managed. I noticed an interesting statistic on his time as Finland manager - the win % was fairly average but all the wins came in qualifying matches and all the defeats in friendlies.

I don't think he was given a fair chance at Liverpool.

Either way England will ultimately be another black mark in his career like all those before him.

Novocastrian Apr 30th 2012 9:04 am

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Oh, well. I don't suppose City are going to be uninterested at the Toon after all.

Pity that, but maybe worth it to see ManUre f*** up.

JamesM Apr 30th 2012 9:12 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10033815)
Oh, well. I don't suppose City are going to be uninterested at the Toon after all.

Pity that, but maybe worth it to see ManUre f*** up.

United should be made to leave Manchester and move to Kuala Lumpar now.

London Mike Apr 30th 2012 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 10033247)
I read that in 40 years of management Rednapp has won the FA cup once and the old third division with Bournmouth. Obviously he has family connections in the football industry which must have helped his career over the years. He is fairly entertaining as a sort of pantomime character but as England manager I think he'd be a disaster.

The real black mark against Hodgson is failure at Liverpool but generally he has improved teams he's managed. I noticed an interesting statistic on his time as Finland manager - the win % was fairly average but all the wins came in qualifying matches and all the defeats in friendlies.

It matters not, it's a non-job. Any England manager will get the team to a championship (possibly limping), then exiting in the QF (possibly on pens). Harry would achieve that, Mourinho would achieve that. It matters not.

Novocastrian Apr 30th 2012 12:51 pm

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Originally Posted by London Mike (Post 10034158)
It matters not, it's a non-job. Any England manager will get the team to a championship (possibly limping), then exiting in the QF (possibly on pens). Harry would achieve that, Mourinho would achieve that. It matters not.

Heh heh. Sad but oh so true.

JamesM Apr 30th 2012 1:42 pm

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Originally Posted by London Mike (Post 10034158)
It matters not, it's a non-job. Any England manager will get the team to a championship (possibly limping), then exiting in the QF (possibly on pens). Harry would achieve that, Mourinho would achieve that. It matters not.

I'm not convinced we have the players to get to Quarter Finals now.

Hodgson got national teams such as Switzerland and Finland to punch above their weight.

If he can do that with England then we may get out of the group of a major tournament.

We will have our work cut out this summer. They open with France and that will be a tough game for a team who only managed one win at the World Cup against Slovenia. Please don't get me started on the Algeria game............or the US of A.

Novocastrian Apr 30th 2012 1:57 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 10034223)
I'm not convinced we have the players to get to Quarter Finals now.

Hodgson got national teams such as Switzerland and Finland to punch above their weight.

If he can do that with England then we may get out of the group of a major tournament.

We will have our work cut out this summer. They open with France and that will be a tough game for a team who only managed one win at the World Cup against Slovenia. Please don't get me started on the Algeria game............or the US of A.

Oh, who cares? English players are naff. Get used to it.

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 8:49 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10031981)
well back to the original scenario......i suspect newcastle will be breaking legs on wednesday to add to the woe of chelsea in the Champions league.

Would you now like to retract that remark? It was Chelsea, in their typically nasty minded anti-football style, who were out breaking things.

0-2 though. They couldn't break Cisse.

sw6blue May 2nd 2012 8:54 am

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well done novo,
well done newcastle,
oh dear not a time for chelsea`s wheels to come off.;)

fletcher m May 2nd 2012 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038113)
Would you now like to retract that remark? It was Chelsea, in their typically nasty minded anti-football style, who were out breaking things.

0-2 though. They couldn't break Cisse.

Forced to watch the Bolton Spurs match, i'll take your word for it, at least you have something to play for against Man City now. Should be a good weekend. Who do you have to win EPL?

Former Lancastrian May 2nd 2012 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10038126)
Forced to watch the Bolton Spurs match, i'll take your word for it, at least you have something to play for against Man City now. Should be a good weekend. Who do you have to win EPL?

I guess it depends on which Manchester club he despises the most;)
Obviously he doesnt want Chelski to win the Champions League in case Newcastle finish 4th thereby stopping them from playing in the CL.
Obviously he would prefer the Toon to qualify for the CL but that means they would have to beat Citeh on Sunday and that would give Utd a chance to win their 20th title. A draw doesnt hurt the Toon against Citeh but again helps Utd.
A loss to Citeh probably hands them the EPL.
I think he needs to down a few Newcastle Brown Ales before he makes a decision come Sunday.

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 9:35 am

Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 

Originally Posted by fletcher m (Post 10038126)
Forced to watch the Bolton Spurs match, i'll take your word for it, at least you have something to play for against Man City now. Should be a good weekend. Who do you have to win EPL?

I don't much care who wins the Prem., but I'd think City. I doubt we can even take a point off them now that Mikel has crocked Tiote and Ivanovic has crocked Ba.

BTW I predict that Mikel will get a retrospective ban from the FA, hopefully before the Cup final. Bastard.

JonboyE May 2nd 2012 10:14 am

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Just seen that second goal. Rather good.

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 10:15 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 10038228)
Just seen that second goal. Rather good.

So was the first. 13 goals in 12 games must be some sort of record?

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 10:58 am

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Alan Pardew, "He {Chiote} has about a nine inch gash and about 400 stitches. It's just a scratch to him. He'll be fine for Sunday".

Hmmm. Maybe we'll get a draw.

Former Lancastrian May 2nd 2012 11:03 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038296)
Alan Pardew, "He {Chiote} has about a nine inch gash and about 400 stitches. It's just a scratch to him. He'll be fine for Sunday".

Hmmm. Maybe we'll get a draw.

Pint or a bottle of wine (a Fergies Red choice) in it for you if you pull of a win;)

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by sw6blue (Post 10038120)
well done novo,
well done newcastle,
oh dear not a time for chelsea`s wheels to come off.;)

I understand (or hope) that you're a true blue Chelsea supporter, as I am a life long Toon supporter, but your lot were beaten, despite despicable violence, by a team that simply outclassed you on the day.

Just as we were last week against Wigan. Funny old game.

Nonetheless, I hope that next year Chelsea get relegated, or even better go bankrupt. Sorry.

Auld Yin May 2nd 2012 11:41 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038315)
I understand (or hope) that you're a true blue Chelsea supporter, as I am a life long Toon supporter, but your lot were beaten, despite despicable violence, by a team that simply outclassed you on the day.

Just as we were last week against Wigan. Funny old game.

Nonetheless, I hope that next year Chelsea get relegated, or even better go bankrupt. Sorry.





From a man of supposed high intellect.????

London Mike May 2nd 2012 11:47 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038315)
I understand (or hope) that you're a true blue Chelsea supporter, as I am a life long Toon supporter, but your lot were beaten, despite despicable violence, by a team that simply outclassed you on the day.

Just as we were last week against Wigan. Funny old game.

Nonetheless, I hope that next year Chelsea get relegated, or even better go bankrupt. Sorry.

Delighted to see this result and the Bolton result for Spurs. Now just clinging on to 4th spot ...:fingerscrossed:

sw6blue May 2nd 2012 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038315)
I understand (or hope) that you're a true blue Chelsea supporter, as I am a life long Toon supporter, but your lot were beaten, despite despicable violence, by a team that simply outclassed you on the day.

Just as we were last week against Wigan. Funny old game.

Nonetheless, I hope that next year Chelsea get relegated, or even better go bankrupt. Sorry.

yes novo, l am a true blue chelsea supporter, l have followed them through thick and
thin for 45 years and will continue to do so.
l have to be honest we were beaten tonite by the better team, l am dissapointed with
3 or 4 of my players just wankers.
6th place for us about right. as you know l can not agree with you about relegation;)

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 1:00 pm

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Originally Posted by sw6blue (Post 10038368)
yes novo, l am a true blue chelsea supporter, l have followed them through thick and
thin for 45 years and will continue to do so.
l have to be honest we were beaten tonite by the better team, l am dissapointed with
3 or 4 of my players just wankers.
6th place for us about right. as you know l can not agree with you about relegation;)

All right. Can we settle for bottom half? I respect your 45 years although the first game I went to at St. James's was in 1958 when I was eight. I assume you weren't actually born on the centre spot at Stamford Bridge?

sw6blue May 2nd 2012 1:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038394)
All right. Can we settle for bottom half? I respect your 45 years although the first game I went to at St. James's was in 1958 when I was eight. I assume you weren't actually born on the centre spot at Stamford Bridge?

bottom half next season novo you never know. the russian has to rebuild the team
another 150 to 200 million maybe.:D
l was born in 1958 and no l was not born on the centre spot at the bridge.
big game for you lot on sunday you still have a chance to finish 3rd.
cup final on saturday against the scoucers we have to raise our game.:)

JamesM May 2nd 2012 1:38 pm

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Originally Posted by London Mike (Post 10038338)
Delighted to see this result and the Bolton result for Spurs. Now just clinging on to 4th spot ...:fingerscrossed:

Spurs have to start playing now. Harry is in limbo. No England job and only one year left on his Spurs contract with no extension yet on the table.

Keeping my fingers crossed for Norwich to put in a good performance at the Emirates on Saturday.

I don't want to rely on Bayern Munich winning the Champions League.

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 2:00 pm

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Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 10038449)
Spurs have to start playing now. Harry is in limbo. No England job and only one year left on his Spurs contract with no extension yet on the table.

Keeping my fingers crossed for Norwich to put in a good performance at the Emirates on Saturday.

I don't want to rely on Bayern Munich winning the Champions League.

I think though you can rely on us not beating Man C., so at least 4th is secure.

As I've said before, I'd rather we finished 5th so then I don't have to bite my fingernails until May 19th. I've had enough thrills for one season.

Mr Weeze May 2nd 2012 2:01 pm

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:focus: Cisse .... is .... a ..... legend

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 2:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze (Post 10038503)
:focus: Cisse .... is .... a ..... legend

Well, it is about time he got a hat trick. Next Sunday would be nice. Even nicer if Ben Arfa got his first in the same match.

Mr Weeze May 2nd 2012 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10038511)
Well, it is about time he got a hat trick. Next Sunday would be nice. Even nicer if Ben Arfa got his first in the same match.

6 goals will do you then?

Tangram May 2nd 2012 2:28 pm

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Originally Posted by sw6blue (Post 10038440)
bottom half next season novo you never know. the russian has to rebuild the team
another 150 to 200 million maybe.:D
l was born in 1958 and no l was not born on the centre spot at the bridge.
big game for you lot on sunday you still have a chance to finish 3rd.
cup final on saturday against the scoucers we have to raise our game.:)

Sorry this isn't the first time you posted this, but it's an itch I have to scratch. The word is spelt scousers not scoucers. If you are going to refer to them as such, do at least make the effort to spell it correctly. ;)

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 2:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Mr Weeze (Post 10038519)
6 goals will do you then?

I should say so. BTW, I've just read an article in a newspaper which reminds me that a certain Alan Shearer scored 12 goals in his first 12 matches for Blackburn.

One less than Papiss Demba Cisse. :)

I look forward to the latter's future role as failed caretaker manager and TV pundit. (En francais c'est sur).

Novocastrian May 2nd 2012 2:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Tangram (Post 10038554)
Sorry this isn't the first time you posted this, but it's an itch I have to scratch. The word is spelt scousers not scoucers. If you are going to refer to them as such, do at least make the effort to spell it correctly. ;)

I join you in your irritation. Bloody Londoners.


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