At least you've got the Toon and S*******d in the right order.

[QUOTE=JamesM;10213784] I am neither a Chelsea or Spurs fan..but i have played the game to a very high standard and im a FA qualified coach..technically King is slightly better. However i would put Terry above King simply as he has performed on the big stage in big matches where as King because of injury just hasn't. Only time i can remember King putting a great performance was against France in the opening game of Euro 2004.

Terry and Cole kept England in Euro 2012 on their own.

[QUOTE=sw6blue;10214033] I was just chain yanking mate!

I actually completely forgot Arsenal.

This was not intentional. I expect them to be somewhere in the mix for 4th or 5th.

I do think City will win again and a bit more convincingly this time than their final day triumph last year.

[QUOTE=cheeky_monkey;10214881] Spurs had a mighty fine "sick note" pairing of King and Woodgate.

When those two played together they were fantastic. It only happened a dozen or so times although one of these was a memorable league cup performance against a very good Chelsea team.

You take the rough with the smooth. If King had never had injury problems he would've ended up at United or Madrid- we would not have got some extra games out of him at Spurs.

Sunderland are my surprise package for the season!

They'll be relegated. What a surprise.

Ranked 3rd now.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-position.html

I'm surprised Sessegnon hasn't been bought for big bucks by a bigger club

If he stays at the SoL they'll probably finish at least half a dozen places higher than without him this season.

[QUOTE=JamesM;10214958] Being fit is an integral part of being a world class player..hence i would choose Terry over King every time..You dont win games from the treatment table.

Anyway it would be nice to see an English team win the Premier league this year.

Anyway it would be nice to see an English team win the Premier league this year.

By this do you mean a team with all English players
English owned
English managed

If so it aint going to happen.

My not so scientific predictions
1. Manchester club City or Utd
2. The other Manchester club that didnt finish 1st
3. Chelski
After that it will be Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle and Liverpool fighting for 4,5,6 & 7th spots.

Can anyone convince me, with good reasons, why spurs and Newcastle will have a good season this year?

I just don't see it. New manager at spurs, Modric unrest. Bale is still there (and I'm wondering why and what his attitude will be like this season).

I don't think Newcastle have much depth in their team. Ba has forgotten how to score goals. I wouldn't put money on Cisse getting the same amount of chances and having the same form as last season.

I'm going for:

1 Chelsea (based on transfer activity this summer)
2 Man City
3 Man United
4 Arsenal
5 Liverpool
6 Sunderland
7 Everton
8 Tottenham
9 Fulham
10 Newcastle
11 Stoke
12 Aston villa
13 QPR
14 West Brom
15 Norwich
16 Wigan
17 Southampton
18 Swansea
19 Reading
20 West Ham

A team that was 80% English players...British manager (English, Scottish, Welsh or Irish) and not owned by a corporation or wealthy foreign patron.

Chelsea finished 6th last year and whilst their best performances (backs against the wall) were reserved for the Champions League I don't think they will win it.

They have signed 3 exciting attacking players but with Mata already at the club I think they will struggle to find a balance of a good team and keeping players happy.

I also think that they are need of a young ball winning midfielder.

That is why I have them at 3rd.

I think City will improve on last season as their squad will be more gelled.

The rumor mill has it that we are in for a big transfer weekend at White Hart Lane. As it stands I am a little gloomy about the start of the season as we have only one striker on the books Defoe and Scott Parker is injured and Modric is on his way. This leaves us short up front and in the center of midfield.

I'm amazed you have Liverpool doing so well. I just don't think their team frightens anyone on paper these days.

Me too, it was due more to an inclination based on the performance of the teams below them, rather than anything to do with their abilities. Suarez seems to be their key player imo, if he can keep his form consistently all season, they'll do OK (so long as he can keep his opinions to himself).

I really enjoyed what I saw of Tottenham last season and I'm hoping they can get that fifth spot this year. So, as soon as they settle into the new leadership and team-up (make the want-aways happy or get rid of them) then I will displace Liverpool with that far more worthy club.