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-   -   The Toon Army / EPL thread (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/toon-army-epl-thread-500138/)

JamesM Apr 8th 2010 3:52 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8481375)
Are these not mutually incompatible concerns. I doubt SAF gives two monkeys whether Rooney plays for England in the world cup...in fact I would guess he would prefer it if he didnt;)

Nice to see a balanced view on the other topics though, I suppose you dont get to the top being a good loser, but SAFs lack of grace in defeat is still breathtaking sometimes. Robbens goal was every bit as good as Nanis, and Rafael was plain dumb to pick up the first card, which would have made any hounding of the ref less contentious for the second... not that United players would ever surround and berate a ref, Oh no, that would never happen....

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_SQ0eRaM1qs...ee_468x402.jpg
I was at that game.

They played Middlesboro.

They released over 1,000 tickets the day before kick off as the new stand was completed.

I went with my Boro freind at uni.

We were right at the back of the highest stand and the referee was charged back by United players about 30 metres or so after a penalty was awarded.....

I hate Fergie and Wenger- they both breed dirty cheats. I thought it was a great week for European football.

JamesM Apr 8th 2010 4:02 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8481829)
Before this gets out of hand....

I've just read that the average home attendance in Newcastle this year has been 42,796. Not bad for the Championship and the fifth highest in English football.

<cue fat naked geordie remarks>
I am glad Newcastle are back. Congratulations.

On my only ever visit to Newcastle I was randomly punched in the mouth by a girl. Memories...............................

iaink Apr 8th 2010 4:03 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8481849)
..

I hate Fergie and Wenger- they both breed dirty cheats.
You say cheat, I say they maximise oportunities for their teams as any good coach would by operating within the full extent of the laws of the game...but I take your point:lol:

Wouldnt it be nice if they would be a bit more sporting in defeat and not blame the ref or the all the other slings and arrows of outragous fortune that seem to allign against them. At least Wenger held up his hands and acknowledged that they were beaten by a better team/man.

You know, European semis with no English involvement can only really be good for the game I think. Barca vs Inter is an intreaguing fixture, how will Jose deal with the Barca attack...gonna be good to watch. Winner of that one I think will go on to win the whole thing.

JamesM Apr 8th 2010 4:08 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8481882)
You say cheat, I say they maximise oportunities for their teams as any good coach would by operating within the full extent of the laws of the game...but I take your point:lol:

Wouldnt it be nice if they would be a bit more sporting in defeat and not blame the ref or the all the other slings and arrows of outragous fortune that seem to allign against them. At least Wenger held up his hands and acknowledged that they were beaten by a better team/man.

You know, European semis with no English involvement can only really be good for the game I think. Barca vs Inter is an intreaguing fixture, how will Jose deal with the Barca attack...gonna be good to watch. Winner of that one I think will go on to win the whole thing.
I liken cheating in Football to MP's expenses. Just because it is within the law does not mean it's right. These people should be role models of how to treat others within the law- not looking at pushing the rules for personal gain.

I think the Semi's will be great because you have 4 team's from 4 countries. Both mouth watering games. The favourite will definately come from Barca-Inter but the final is only 90 minutes (or one leg should I say) so it will not be done and dusted.

Jingsamichty Apr 8th 2010 4:23 am
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Ferguson has simply done what he is the undisputed master at - instead of poring over the team's failings on the field, today's chatter is now about Gobshite Fergie.

When it comes to deflecting criticism from his players, nobody can match him.

iaink Apr 8th 2010 4:25 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 8481894)
I liken cheating in Football to MP's expenses. Just because it is within the law does not mean it's right. These people should be role models of how to treat others within the law- not looking at pushing the rules for personal gain.

I think the Semi's will be great because you have 4 team's from 4 countries. Both mouth watering games. The favourite will definately come from Barca-Inter but the final is only 90 minutes (or one leg should I say) so it will not be done and dusted.
These people are paid big money to make sure the team has the best chance to win. If its fair play and sportsmanship you are looking for you are looking in the wrong place, its not their job. That has to come from FIFA/ UEFA/ The FA to introduce rules that can be enforced and to back up the refs authority to make the right decision under pressure.

Losing ten meters for dissent with the refs decision, sin binning for yellow cards and a bunch of other ideas stolen from field hockey and rugby where the ref is not treated like shit would be a good start if you ask me.

The authorities attitude to technology and video replay in contentious decisions is bizarre too if you ask me, but the managers are just doing their job in using all the tools at their disposal to influence events their way, and I expect no less from them to be honest, even if its not pretty sometimes. Not their job to make and enforce the rules...that's up to the sporting bureauticians.

And good point about fergies mastery of distraction by media... no one is talking about how they lost the lead in the first leg, or snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yesterday, or questioning Rafaels stupidity in picking up his first card are they:sneaky:

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2010 4:26 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8481946)
Ferguson has simply done what he is the undisputed master at - instead of poring over the team's failings on the field, today's chatter is now about Gobshite Fergie.

When it comes to deflecting criticism from his players, nobody can match him.
He's not that subtle.

He's Scottish.

Jingsamichty Apr 8th 2010 4:27 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8481952)
...that up to the sporting buearotcians.
Iain, you have truly surpassed yourself with that one!

iaink Apr 8th 2010 4:38 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 8481962)
Iain, you have truly surpassed yourself with that one!
Its a word I just made up and even then managed to misspell :o:eek:

Bureautician... Bureaucrat / Politician

david_oz Apr 8th 2010 7:06 am
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i just thought i'd stop by here and put in a good word for my Fulham... perhaps by the end of today we'll be the only english team left in europe!

triumphguy Apr 8th 2010 8:24 am
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And let's hope they win!

Oink Apr 8th 2010 8:28 am
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What's this obsession with English teams in Europe? Any self respecting football supporter will only want their team to win and hope all other English teams get knocked out in the first round while encountering a lot of injuries.

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2010 8:34 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8482489)
What's this obsession with English teams in Europe? Any self respecting football supporter will only want their team to win and hope all other English teams get knocked out in the first round while encountering a lot of injuries.
AKA The Love That Dare Not Speak It's Name.

iaink Apr 8th 2010 8:36 am
Re: The Toon Army / EPL thread
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8482489)
What's this obsession with English teams in Europe? Any self respecting football supporter will only want their team to win and hope all other English teams get knocked out in the first round while encountering a lot of injuries.
Ties up a lot of resources does sucess in Europe...it can weaken teams and distracts them from their domestic chores;) Success in Europe by others is welcomed, as long as they are not too successful.

Novocastrian Apr 8th 2010 8:56 am
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Good result for Pool. Good result for Fulham.

Whatever next?


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