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Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by Oakvillian
Hmmm. The context of the rest of that paragraph would help. Again, it may be that my German is not good enough to see the nuances of tense and mood, but Mesovic is speaking hypothetically here. In English his comment might be renderes as "A refugee might only notice that their information has been incorrectly translated..." And he goes on to say that refugees might not avail themselves of a lawyer because they're not aware that they have the right to bring one, and not only because they can't afford it. Most of the opinion in the piece comes from Reinhard Pohl, who runs training courses for translators, and from Monika Eingreiber, national spokesperson for the Trade Union representing translators and interpreters. Both of whom have an obvious vested interest in pushing for greater regulation and certification in the interpreting business.

The more I read the piece in die Welt, the more I wonder what the point of it is? If it had been about any other subject than refugees, it would've been spiked at first draft. Imagine if it really had been a load of old cobblers:


It's still a red herring.
At least we can all agree accurately translated testimony is critically important.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:29 am
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Well done with the bookmaker's quote. Rather good.
I was going to try to work an elf or two in as well, every shoemaker story should have some elves. But it's equally important that the much-overlooked word "aiglet"* should see the light of day occasionally. Think on it as my service to society.

*the little plastic sheath on the end of a shoelace, in case you were wondering
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by paw339
As an immigrant myself I'm anti chaos not anti immigrant. Social order/Civic society is starting to fall apart at the edges in parts of Europe which I don't think is a good thing. Who would have thought the Swedes would start burning down refugee hostels and closing their borders? The fact that I don't think that is a good development doesn't make me xenophobic whatever you may think. Chaos just breeds extremism.
And the best way to combat the rise of extremism is to keep posting about why people should be extremist?
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:30 am
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At least we can all agree accurately translated testimony is critically important.
On that point, certainly. Agree wholeheartedly.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Or more probably extremism breeds chaos. Which has nothing to do with migrants. Just with bigots.
Chaos and extremism have a very symbiotic relationship. How many countries did the Americans destabilise leading to how many extremist groups? The migrant crisis didn't need to cause chaos if our leaders hadn't been so short sighted.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by paw339
Chaos and extremism have a very symbiotic relationship. How many countries did the Americans destabilise leading to how many extremist groups? The migrant crisis didn't need to cause chaos if our leaders hadn't been so short sighted.
Now I'm confused, so I'll repeat for the third time, What's your point?

I'm especially confused as to who our leaders are.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 10:46 am
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I'm going to try to set up a series of benefit concerts at our venue for the Regina Open Door Society. It shouldn't be hard to involve the local community radio station and their top music show personality (= free advertising), local bands will support it for the exposure (maybe local tv), and a decent meal and drinks rider and all we have to do is donate the hall in the hope the bar covers staff and security. I was thinking of trying for 3 shows, one each in Dec, Jan, and Feb. Our patrons have benefit dances here for the food bank regularly and they usually do well so I'm pretty confident about this.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Now I'm confused, so I'll repeat for the third time, What's your point?

I'm especially confused as to who our leaders are.

My point has probably been lost a few posts back sorry.

When I refer to "our leaders" I suppose I'm really referring to the leaders of the EU countries , US and Canada.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 2:56 pm
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And the best way to combat the rise of extremism is to keep posting about why people should be extremist?
The best way to combat the rise of extremism would be to deport all the extremists back to the Middle East. But that's not allowed, because Human Rights.

So we'll end up with a civil war in the EU, instead. You simply cannot have radical progressivism and radical Islam in the same nation.
 
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The best way to combat the rise of extremism would be to deport all the extremists back to the Middle East. But that's not allowed, because Human Rights.

So we'll end up with a civil war in the EU, instead. You simply cannot have radical progressivism and radical Islam in the same nation.
I think the extremists being referred to in the recent posts are those of European extraction that object to Islamisation. However, as to foreign extremists, certainly Europe should take a tougher line with them, including possible deportation. Agree that Europe's progressivism (radical or not!) will be hindered by radical Islam, and even, it has to be said, by moderate Islam.
 
Old Nov 27th 2015 | 9:33 pm
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The best way to combat the rise of extremism would be to deport all the extremists back to the Middle East. But that's not allowed, because Human Rights.
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So we'll end up with a civil war in the EU, instead. You simply cannot have radical progressivism and radical Islam in the same nation.
Pray tell which nation in 2015 is radically progressive?
 
Old Nov 28th 2015 | 1:57 am
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2nd amendment bro.

Gun nuts aren't extremists as they exercise their "right".
 
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2nd amendment bro.

Gun nuts aren't extremists as they exercise their "right".
Yes, and they're usually carrying out Gods will too, especially in matters of unborn children.
 
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Originally Posted by Shard
I think the extremists being referred to in the recent posts are those of European extraction that object to Islamisation.
What's 'extreme' about that? It would be normal social behaviour pretty much anywhere on the planet except Europe and North America.

If there are extremists in the West, they're the ones flooding it with millions of people from completely incompatible cultures. One way or another, the end result can only be war.
 
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Originally Posted by MarkG
What's 'extreme' about that? It would be normal social behaviour pretty much anywhere on the planet except Europe and North America.

If there are extremists in the West, they're the ones flooding it with millions of people from completely incompatible cultures. One way or another, the end result can only be war.
Well the millions are generally compatible, maybe there are a few thousands that are not. Hopefully we can deprogram the incompatibles in good time.
 


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