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And, just as with Syria, the world leaders don't care. They all profess to, and will "strongly condemn" Russia's actions but they will leave Ukrainians to their own fate. I suspect that China will be watching the world's reaction very carefully, and will use that to gauge its own tactics in the future.

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China must almost certainly see this as a window. I wouldn't say leaders don't care, more that they don't want to lose their own troops to conflicts that do not directly concern them.

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Some of the world leaders financed Putin’s regime’s weapons used to bomb Kyiv today. Merkel loved Gazprom and was happy to do that while shutting down German power generation.

Canada could have provided LNG alternatives to Europe but our government is incapable of permitting even basic industrial projects and chose to give the right of veto to various interest groups.

All the while our own military has been severely underfunded and under-equipped.

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That's what they pay their troops to do. As you are aware, I say this as a former troop that has been on the ground in such situations.

The world either believes that what Russia did is wrong, or it doesn't. If it's wrong, they should act accordingly. Condemning it as wrong but doing nothing to correct that wrong is pathetic, IMVHO.

Of course, the world has known for years that aggressors will be allowed to act in such a way. I would bet that China is licking its lips as to what it will be permitted to do in the sea around its land and with its neighbours. I see trouble ahead.

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For Russia to be fixed they need a waking/tipping point.

For everyone here that's cynical that nothing is going to happen because nothing has happened in Russia for a long time I really like this quote:

Russia can change but it's up to the Russian people to decide their fate and make their own future.

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IIRC the most I have paid for a litre in Canada was $1.54, but at that time, a barrel of oil was around $150. I may have to start working full days soon.

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It's getting close..

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...d880f71504.jpg

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The man is a bully.

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In 2018, gas was $2.02/litre at the one sole gas station between Banff and Jasper on the Icefields Parkway. I seem to recall that gas was in the $1.40 range in Lake Louise at the time. That $2.02/gas price was since it was the only gas station for probably at least an hour in any direction. Few people would fill up I would think.

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“Bully” does not begin to describe it. Putin is bombing cities of a peaceful sovereign democratic nation. Again but on a larger scale. Putin is a war criminal.

Good thing we are helping Ukraine.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...e521a8a10.jpeg

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Surely that's wrong? Pitt Meadows is normally a little cheaper than where I am (North Delta) but only by a 1c or 2, was out and about an hour ago and we were at 1.77

EDIT: just checked on gas buddy, Petro Canada in Pitt Meadows is at 1.76 for regular right now.

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What's the difference between a Ruble and a Euro?... A Euro.

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Anyone else having 1980's style existential dread about being collateral damage in a nuclear exchange?

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I think Putin is full of shit and he's trying to bluff his way through this 'war' with Ukraine by threatening nuclear war on the west if we intervene....and it's working. The west is shit scared.

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I agree. Plus, when people actually realise how little of an area is destroyed by a nuclear weapon and how many it would take to take out a country, they will breathe a little easier. There are benefits to living in places that most people in the world cannot find on a map.

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This is fun. An interactive map showing deaths, injuries, fallout zone. Choose your city, type of bomb, wind direction.
https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

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Very much depends on the nuclear weapon. If we take a larger Russian SSBN it may carry 200 warheads (say 10 per missile). Hiroshima/Nagasaki = 15 kt yield per bomb. Each warhead may have a punch of 100 kt. Times 200. Enough for the 20 largest cities in Canada to be levelled completely. With all the suburbs. There will be other issues after levelling cities which would hurt places all over the map.

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I bought some toilet paper yesterday just in case.

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It is the cancer causing fallout in the air and water that is the horrible after effect. That radiation effect will make it impossible for scientists to say whether cancer cases went up because of a manmade virus and a vaccine or because a few nukes were dropped in the northern hemosphere.

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Oh, dear…

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Oh don't start those brain dead idiots off again!!! :lol:

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There is somewhat of a deja vu about this scenario again....... who would have thought it would come to this again after the fall of the USSR

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the website I posted a linkbtoo illustrates this.

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I went to a lecture once, very late 70s about the medical effects of a nuclear explosion and triage of victims. If I remember correctly, leave the once displaying symptoms as you can do nothing,m those without symptoms should be bled to promote red blood cell production before the existing cells are destroyed. It was quite chilling. I'm sure there are more complex disaster plans now, well hopeful there are.

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God damn these Ukrainian's are brave people.

Twitter

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This was on my recommended videos to watch today :blink:

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The two leaders have somewhat different modus operandi while their respective countries are at war.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...2d1dcca35.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...68eb6f4b1.jpeg

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My dread comes from the early 60's. I clearly remember our social studies teacher explaining to us what could happen if.... cuba, russia etc.
My parents had to pick up the pieces as my nightmares flared with images of the western horizon out my bedroom window completely engulfing the rocky mountains with flames from one end to the other and as high as could be seen as it came moving closer and closer burning everything in its path.

Fun times to be an adolescent in school. I later became a Flower Powered hippie united with fellow students for sit-ins at University, we were protesting the wars. I'm still against violence as a means to political goals. Peace! and Freedom to Conversation and Opinion! 💛🌸🌻🌻🌸� ��

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I was 8 then and old enough to remember my parents' anxiety but not old enough to know what was going on apart from Russia bad, America good.

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Reminds me of the "Dancing Man" in Tianmen Square, before the slaughter there.

Probably didn't end well for him then, but the images of him represent an enduring and damning indictment of the Chinese regime, decades later.

Same now--and forever--for Putin. Never trust, never accept, never give in.

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Mutual Assured Destruction is still a thing. Everybody loses, forever.

And too many uncontrollable variables for any one player to attempt "limited nuclear war", even in a multi-polar world.

That is likely to give even Putin pause.

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As if those food starved areas in the world didn't suffer enough already :(

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60623941

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I'm a baby boomer and clearly remember the anxiety and fear I felt hearing the siren go off and having to go under our desks on her knees with our arms behind our neck and our head touching our knees. Being a kid in the 50's and early 60's was not as joyful as we try to portray the times. And yes, I'm having anxiety again because of the real threat that nukes will be used during this war. I have family 25 miles north of NYC. They would probably be one of the first to die if that were to happen. I would prefer to living there with them and having us all die at the same time and am seriously looking into going back in the upcoming weeks for a long visit.

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We all hope so. Apparently Putin is hiding in an underground city in Siberia right now. Losing this war will be a problem for Putin as he relies on the chauvinist support. Won’t go well with his base. He could commit suicide, lumber on or choose another approach.

What I can’t fathom is why Europe increased its dependence on Russian gas, oil and coal since 2014. Germany in particular. And why everyone banned supply of weapons to Ukraine until now. Had we spent the last 8 years differently, it would have given Putin pause before invading.

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I don't understand that either, I remember talking about that sometime ago.... why would you rely on an unstable corrupt country for something so critical.... its insanity! Im obviously missing something.

It even worse that North America does too when it could be self sufficient with oil and gas, especially if they didn't cancel infrastructure that is half built!!

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There are a few reasons. Some of these arguments are a replay of 1980s when Germans built a pipeline from USSR and the Reagan administration argued that it would make Europe dependent on the whims of a totalitarian regime. Young Blinken wrote a book in 1987, essentially supporting the German position: https://books.google.ca/books/about/...on&redir_esc=y

Germany committed to shutting down nuclear power after Fukushima. Replaced with Russian coal and gas, also increasing GHG emissions.

Creating an alternative to Russian hydrocarbons would have required spending Euros. Germany has strict constraints on balanced budgets so infrastructure investment is always the first to suffer.

Remarkably and shamefully, former Chancellor Schroeder being paid by Putin’s regime but Merkel’s government was a big part of the problem. The new government too banned Baltic states from sending weapons to Ukraine to help prevent the invasion even after Russia amassed troops on the border.

And in Canada major projects are being blocked because of special interests, pandering and government’s unwillingness to do anything beyond shoveling the cash out.

Even today Trudeau is refusing to answer a simple question which does not bode well for the future.

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  When asked whether Canada would be using its petroleum sector to help Europe lessen its dependence on Russian oil: “We need to move forward on decarbonizing our economies, but we need to do that in a way that supports people through that process and we’re going to continue doing that.”

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https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...justin-trudeau

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We never did any of that stuff.

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That's not a nice way to talk about the UK ;)

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I remember taking part in a civil defence exercise in my early years. I laid over a tree stump with fake blood daubed in my ear.

I remember the odd siren test too.