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Souvy Feb 7th 2022 11:52 am

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I haven't finished. At the moment I believe there are only two franco quebeckers fully versed in the use of the word "bolloc......".

I'll get cracking on him when he starts to speak.

bats Feb 7th 2022 11:57 am

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Originally Posted by Rete (Post 13093174)
So where is the equivalent of the US Truck Convoy that is influencing Canadian Truckers? I have heard that they are attempting to assemble one for a ride to DC but so far it has not materialized.

I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. I believe the only issue is that the Canadian government wants to MANDATE that every Canadian, from infancy to dying senior citizen, including every resident, visa holder, and native.

If unvaccinated, no work, no medical care, only a government that was voted into power turning its back on its citizens.

As has been noted by someone on social media it never was mandated that you needed to be vaccinated for the flu, measles,mumps, polio, smallpox, etc. There was and still are a large number of citizens on both sides of the border who are not vaccinated for diseases for which there are effective medical protection.

Unvaccinated people are not denied medical care. Work is dependent on the employers rules. I worked in healthcare and had to have certain vaccines for employment The flu shot was never compulsory but if there was an outbreak you weren't allowed to work. Pretty much the same as is happening now. I've never travelled anywhere where vaccinations were necessary but I've known many people frantic to get shots for all kinds of exotic diseases they might encounter on vacation.

Almost Canadian Feb 8th 2022 1:30 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13093228)
I believe the federal government jurisdiction over what happens at the borders is immigration related. You may recall that in Atlantic Canada the provinces virtually closed the borders at the beginning of the pandemic. Obviously this was mostly province to province but for New Brunswick it included Maine. People coming into the province "without good reason" were sent back using the provincial powers.

I have heard numerous reports on CBC that it is a Provincial matter rather than federal presumably because Health matters are for the provinces and vaccine mandates are Health matters.

How that's actually done is another matter but truck drivers are subject to additional checks, not just those of immigration, so there are opportunities.

I believe that their protest started with their issues with the international border.

I have to admit that I am not aware of any current issues with travel between the Provinces but, if there is, I accept that that would be a provincial government issue.

Almost Canadian Feb 8th 2022 1:31 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13093230)
Replace "not true" with "not as simple as all that", then, yes, I know, but, IMO, the vaccine mandates are a sideshow to the protest which is really a generalized wail against the federal government and the population that elected that government.

Agreed

BristolUK Feb 8th 2022 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Rete (Post 13093174)
So where is the equivalent of the US Truck Convoy that is influencing Canadian Truckers? I have heard that they are attempting to assemble one for a ride to DC but so far it has not materialized.

I think it is misguided to think that all the Canadian truckers participating are unvaccinated. .

Has anyone suggested that? Even before it happened it was claimed that most of them were vaccinated and that they were just against the mandate to do so.

Neo-Nazis and QAnon: how Canadian truckers’ anti-vaccine protest was steered by extremists

The so-called “freedom convoy” – which departed for Ottawa on 23 January – was the brainchild of James Bauder, an admitted conspiracy theorist who has endorsed the QAnon movement and called Covid-19 “the biggest political scam in history”...'Hold Fast Canada' had organized pickets of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation’s headquarters, where they claimed that concentration camps had already been introduced in the country. Another group, Action4Canada, launched legal challenges to mask and vaccine mandates. In one 400-page court filing, they allege that the “false pronouncement of a Covid-19 ‘pandemic’” was carried out, at least in part, by Bill Gates and a “New World (Economic) Order” to facilitate the injection of 5G-enabled microchips into the population.
We already know the gofundme page has been cancelled and donations are to be refunded because it's not what it originally seemed.

Since they have arrived in Ottawa, the extreme elements of the protest have been visible: neo-Nazi and Confederate flags were seen flying, QAnon logos were emblazoned on trucks and signs...

BristolUK Feb 8th 2022 1:40 am

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 13093386)
I have to admit that I am not aware of any current issues with travel between the Provinces but, if there is, I accept that that would be a provincial government issue.

As I stated, though, "Obviously this was mostly province to province but for New Brunswick it included Maine."
New Brunswick placed the conditions for entry to the province from Maine, USA. It was able to do that independently of federal gov.

Almost Canadian Feb 8th 2022 1:45 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13093391)
As I stated, though, "Obviously this was mostly province to province but for New Brunswick it included Maine."
New Brunswick placed the conditions for entry to the province from Maine, USA. It was able to do that independently of federal gov.

OK. Is that still the case?

Danny B Feb 8th 2022 4:37 am

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Zexi Li is the hero of Ottawa, not a single horn can be heard :lol:



BristolUK Feb 8th 2022 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 13093394)
OK. Is that still the case?

No, because having brought in high levels of border restrictions initially - with neighbouring provinces or Maine - the various covid level responses were gradually eased, by the province, as time went on.

For example, there was a period where the province required "good reasons" to be entering from Maine and then later reasons didn't matter but quarantining was required.

Katrinaprincess Feb 10th 2022 9:29 am

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Originally Posted by Rete (Post 13093087)
The truckers are Canadian; not American. Americans, even truckers, cannot cross into Canada without being fully vaccinated. Those that are will not be the ones to take part in the trucker protest of mandatory vaccination of all citizens and residents of Canada.

America does NOT want a foothold in Canada. We don't want a damn thing to do with Quebec. Trump has little power in the US. His reign is over and dead to everyone but himself.

They wont let me post links, however google and you will find US elected politicians supporting this convoy, in addition funds are pouring in from American's, it looks like more American's are donating to this convoy than Canadians based on media articles from today.

dbd33 Feb 10th 2022 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by Katrinaprincess (Post 13094099)
They wont let me post links, however google and you will find US elected politicians supporting this convoy,.

Freaks and nut jobs, Ted Cruz and the like.

Danny B Feb 11th 2022 6:34 am

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TGIF



OrangeMango Feb 11th 2022 8:26 am

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Originally Posted by Katrinaprincess (Post 13094099)
They wont let me post links, however google and you will find US elected politicians supporting this convoy, in addition funds are pouring in from American's, it looks like more American's are donating to this convoy than Canadians based on media articles from today.

If it was Justin Trudeau's father he would have called in the military to solve the matter.

Just watch me.....

mikelincs Feb 12th 2022 2:52 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 13094253)

CRACKERJACK

Shard Feb 12th 2022 3:27 am

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Odd that biggest civil protest in recent Canadian history is stuck in the Random stuff thread. Doesn't it deserve its own thread?

dbd33 Feb 12th 2022 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13094366)
Odd that biggest civil protest in recent Canadian history is stuck in the Random stuff thread. Doesn't it deserve its own thread?

It's over now.

Shard Feb 12th 2022 8:01 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13094428)
It's over now.

Hopefully, so.

dbd33 Feb 12th 2022 9:30 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13094434)
Hopefully, so.


Specifically the truck protest. There will be other far right demos and the related disintegration of the Conservative party will be problem for years to come, but these vehicles have been moved.

Shard Feb 12th 2022 11:14 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13094457)
Specifically the truck protest. There will be other far right demos and the related disintegration of the Conservative party will be problem for years to come, but these vehicles have been moved.

It's interesting that the protestors have co-opted a kind of Canadian nationalism and "freedom" in their endeavour. I suppose it's as easy/cheap to wave a Canadian flag as the Brexiteers found it to wave a British flag. And now the French are getting in on the "feeedom" convoy protests too.



dbd33 Feb 12th 2022 12:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13094474)
It's interesting that the protestors have co-opted a kind of Canadian nationalism and "freedom" in their endeavour.

I don't find it interesting, I find it to be Trump recycled, and I don't like nationalists. Usually I respect the milk truck drivers because they do have a "must get there" kind of job but today the milk truck was flying a Canadian flag so I gave the driver the finger. "Freedom", in this context, means "freedom to oppress". **** 'em.

Shard Feb 12th 2022 9:36 pm

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13094484)
I don't find it interesting, I find it to be Trump recycled, and I don't like nationalists. Usually I respect the milk truck drivers because they do have a "must get there" kind of job but today the milk truck was flying a Canadian flag so I gave the driver the finger. "Freedom", in this context, means "freedom to oppress". **** 'em.

I totally agree. When I say interesting, I mean reprehensible. I was thinking that "Freedom" ought to be rebutted with "Freeloader" (in the anti-vax context). "Freedom to oppress" is accurate too. Many of the protestors seem to have too much time on their hands, and no real outlet for their frustrations in life, so it all gets rolled into the abstract fight for "freedom".

Shard Feb 12th 2022 10:11 pm

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Gee, merci beaucoup, Canada !

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...darker-beliefs


BristolUK Feb 13th 2022 4:26 am

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I like the idea of discouraging them with Barry Manilow.

bats Feb 13th 2022 10:39 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13094575)
I like the idea of discouraging them with Barry Manilow.

I met him once. He was quite charming and polite.

Souvy Feb 13th 2022 11:29 am

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It's the Super Bowl today. Or, as I like to call it, the "Superbole". A bit like hyperbole but not as awesome.

dbd33 Feb 13th 2022 12:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 13094606)
It's the Super Bowl today. Or, as I like to call it, the "Superbole". A bit like hyperbole but not as awesome.


I did enjoy the parties during the era of living with the Young American. Food, adverts, half time show. I don't think anyone even knew which teams were playing but that's not the point. Note that that was a huge (college) football household, her stepfather had been through med school on a scholarship as a quarterback. Important games meant silent attention but the SuperBowl is not one of those.

Nand Feb 14th 2022 12:00 am

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It isn't over, it is spreading like a viris.

Will there be food shortages caused by the 'Freedom' Convoys in Canada, US, France or Belgium?

I'm thinking that will depend on how trucks with food products will manage to keep delivering to supermarkets and businesses. 😕

dbd33 Feb 14th 2022 12:02 am

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Originally Posted by Nand (Post 13094671)
Will there be food shortages caused by the 'Freedom' Convoys in Canada, US, France or Belgium?

I'm thinking that will depend on how trucks with food products will manage to keep delivering to supermarkets and businesses. 😕

It's not likely in Canada. The blockade is over now and there was no obvious shortage of food in the shops on Saturday.

Nand Feb 14th 2022 5:03 am

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Thats good then.

Danny B Feb 14th 2022 5:35 am

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Happy Valentines :lol:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...9c76483892.jpg



Danny B Feb 17th 2022 2:28 am

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Talking of Durex...

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-60414915


bats Feb 17th 2022 1:29 pm

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Our internet is down until Monday at the earliest. Coping without Netflix, Prime etc. I'll be ok. I can cope.

BristolUK Feb 18th 2022 2:49 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 13095468)
Our internet is down until Monday at the earliest. Coping without Netflix, Prime etc. I'll be ok. I can cope.

That's where it's worth having a few things downloaded already, just to fall back on if needed.

Rete Feb 18th 2022 5:39 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13095596)
That's where it's worth having a few things downloaded already, just to fall back on if needed.

Or go to the local market or store that has a Redbox unit and rent a few films. Watch shows on your phone but be sure it is plug into the charger.

bats Feb 18th 2022 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13095596)
That's where it's worth having a few things downloaded already, just to fall back on if needed.

Yes, I did think that that would have been a sensiblething to do. Probably won't get round to it even now.


Originally Posted by Rete (Post 13095677)
Or go to the local market or store that has a Redbox unit and rent a few films. Watch shows on your phone but be sure it is plug into the charger.

Redbox? What is this?

It's back on now, a neighbour with "an important job" called them and was persuasive. Crisis averted.

BristolUK Feb 18th 2022 10:19 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 13095734)
Yes, I did think that that would have been a sensible thing to do.

In my case it was just dumb luck.

It was pre-Netflix when I was finding stuff all over the place that buffered terribly but worked great if downloaded using a speedy downloader.

Then came Netflix and faster internet so now it's almost all streaming. I just have the downloaded stuff available in the event of power cuts.

There is a download feature on Netflix - which seems odd when one can stream anytime - but it might be worth looking at when you know there's a storm approaching that may cut power. Assuming you have a laptop/battery that will run long enough of course.

sharkus Feb 22nd 2022 5:46 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13095757)
In my case it was just dumb luck.

It was pre-Netflix when I was finding stuff all over the place that buffered terribly but worked great if downloaded using a speedy downloader.

Then came Netflix and faster internet so now it's almost all streaming. I just have the downloaded stuff available in the event of power cuts.

There is a download feature on Netflix - which seems odd when one can stream anytime - but it might be worth looking at when you know there's a storm approaching that may cut power. Assuming you have a laptop/battery that will run long enough of course.

The download function of Netflix, and maybe other streaming services, is also very useful if you want to binge on something while on a long trip, for example; a long flight.

Shard Feb 22nd 2022 9:07 am

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Originally Posted by sharkus (Post 13096600)
The download function of Netflix, and maybe other streaming services, is also very useful if you want to binge on something while on a long trip, for example; a long flight.

Also useful if you don't have multi-user and want two people want to watch different shows. Turn wifi off on the tablet and can watch the download while the other person watches the stream.

Danny B Feb 23rd 2022 5:23 am

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Shit is about to get real in Ukraine right now, why can't people just get along??

sharkus Feb 24th 2022 1:15 am

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Shit is now, unfortunately, *very* real :(


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