PR's don't want to pledge
Jul 12th 2013, 10:35 pm
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
she was the last heir to inherit the throne is what i meant to say
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it
Jul 13th 2013, 12:55 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Jul 13th 2013, 1:18 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
I read about this situation this morning.
How long has this requirement to pledge and oath to the Queen been part of the process? I'm guessing a fair few years.
If you want to become a Citizen, take the pledge, if you don't want to pledge, don't expect to be given special dispensation. Rules are rules people!
As others have said, it's not as if this is some big secret, the application guide mentions what will happen, so if you object to it, why apply in the first place?
How long has this requirement to pledge and oath to the Queen been part of the process? I'm guessing a fair few years.
If you want to become a Citizen, take the pledge, if you don't want to pledge, don't expect to be given special dispensation. Rules are rules people!
As others have said, it's not as if this is some big secret, the application guide mentions what will happen, so if you object to it, why apply in the first place?
Jul 13th 2013, 1:31 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
she was the last heir to inherit the throne is what i meant to say
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it
anyway, she's technically not the correct monarch of the UK...something to do with the Act Of Union in the early 1700s and the highland clearances etc...my knowledge on the subject is sketchy at best, it was Primary school history when i learned about it
Jul 13th 2013, 1:42 am
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Jul 13th 2013, 1:48 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Well. That's just silly, rightful descendents. The king or queen is (well as, now it's all down to laws and stuff) whoever has the right friends. Thry may like to think they are entitled and couch it in phrases such as divine right but it's all an overblownm sense of entitlement.
Jul 13th 2013, 1:55 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
I think the Royal Family serve to remind us that life isn't fair, that hard work and dedication will never be as valuable as good connections and that we should limit our aspirations to those reasonable for ourselves. This isn't America.
Jul 13th 2013, 2:18 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Jul 13th 2013, 2:25 am
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Quite. I found it strange being asked to swear an oath of loyalty to her when I was already supposed to be loyal as a result of being born on her lands.
Mrs. JonboyE had to swear an oath of loyalty twice. Once to become British and again to become Canadian. She is obviously twice as loyal as me. At least she doesn't throw things at the TV whenever it mentions the impending birth.
Mrs. JonboyE had to swear an oath of loyalty twice. Once to become British and again to become Canadian. She is obviously twice as loyal as me. At least she doesn't throw things at the TV whenever it mentions the impending birth.
Interesting though that the oath is to the Queen of Canada... In that case it is really an Oath to Canada rather that the Queen per se... Unless Betty has multiple personalities... Lol
Jul 13th 2013, 11:53 am
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Jul 13th 2013, 12:25 pm
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Iirc every monarch since Henry VI is decsended from John of Gaunt (might be wrong Henry, I deal more with their bones than their history! :s)
Jul 13th 2013, 2:38 pm
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
On these three dissenters...evidently some lawyer was plain bored and looking for a bit of airtime, but the sad sods who were the only three stooges he could find were completely risible. The woman who said the she couldn't support the Queen because the UK was "the leader of the slave trade" had me cringing.
My worry is that Canada won't just say Bye-bye, but will start hand wringing and look for some loophole to accommodate them.
Jul 13th 2013, 2:43 pm
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
If they won't play by Canadian rules, you should send them back to Long Kesh and Abu Ghraib to learn some manners.