magnumpi

3 would be citizens are in court today saying that pledging alegence to the queen is discrimination, against their beliefs.

Ohh dear !!


http://www.calgaryherald.com/touch/s...tml?id=8647780

"Welcome to Canada, what can we change for you"

dbd33

Their objections seem rather feeble. One's tenuously connected to Ireland, one claims religion, one thinks it's "a bit much". A dreary bunch, offer them Ecuadorian passports instead.

magnumpi

Agreed

It will be interesting to see what they do if they don't win the case ? Will they leave the country in disgust and return to wherever?

Zoe Bell

simple then , don't become a citizen.
No compulsion to do so.

It's not like they make it a secret that it is part of the ceremony.
Noone is forcing them to leave or anything

Steve_

This has come up in the military when soldiers are a bit iffy about pledging an oath to the Queen - they always lose.

scribe123

I wouldn't want to pledge  alegence to the queen either.

I didn't vote for her.

magnumpi

But that's not the point. You did not set the speed limits on the roads and highways neither, but you will be expected to comply with them.

Steve_

I didn't vote for Canada either. Presumably you would have to pledge allegiance to that.

dbd33

Me neither, but the choice is "pledge and get the passport" or "don't pledge and don't get the passport".

Saying, "but this is me, change the rules and you can have me" is unlikely to provoke a rush to change the rules.

Piff Poff

If they don't want to Pledge and follow the rules, then no Citizenship for them is what I say. They knew when they applied what the process is, if they didn't like it then don't apply just stay PR. My daughter, husband and I will take their spots

magnumpi

That is so annoying that the wait for Citizenship is so long then you hear about this. Like "susprise" you goto take an oath at the end !!!!! We all know this so think before you file.

Presumably scribe 123 won't be applying anytime soon

Former Lancastrian

Will refrain from commenting as I dont want to be accused of being a racist twice in one day.

Piff Poff

Exactly right, I spent abut three hours photocopying and form filling yesterday, on top of the preliminary form filling and am still waiting on info from DD as she is away staffing for the Air Cadets all summer and is tricky to get hold of, once we have all signed the papers they will go into the post. DD has already pledged allegiance to the Queen and is thinking seriously about serving Canada. It's been annoying to find out wait times have increased drastically from when I looked and didn't get round to doing before and then you hear about Numpty's like these, oh well.

Jingsamichty

I suggest that as far as the Irishman's argument goes, the biggest "betrayal of his republican heritage" is his voluntarily choosing to live for 50-odd years in a country with the Queen as head of state.

magnumpi

When the 3 poor downtrodden badly done by and dicrimated against immigrants arrived here in the 60's and 70's Canada was more royalist than it is now. So why even make the move in the first place ?