PR's don't want to pledge
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_o...zenship#Canada
Here is an interesting comparison between countries which i think is accurate and up to date
I note that the Aussies have eliminated reference to the monarchy
However if one accepts that in Canada it is a mere formality then pledging allegiance to the Queen is no big deal
However i can understand that some might object
Here is an interesting comparison between countries which i think is accurate and up to date
I note that the Aussies have eliminated reference to the monarchy
However if one accepts that in Canada it is a mere formality then pledging allegiance to the Queen is no big deal
However i can understand that some might object
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
A slight twist on that is the case of a man in the office here. He's engaged a consultant to help him apply for a PR card. (I believe in fact he needs to establish PR before getting the card). This is so he can claim the pension.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
A slight twist on that is the case of a man in the office here. He's engaged a consultant to help him apply for a PR card. (I believe in fact he needs to establish PR before getting the card). This is so he can claim the pension.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
Probably one of those cases where he came across with his parents who were given documentation and the documentation is no longer available.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
Be interesting to see what happens with this one. They could go either way by accepting whatever paperwork or explanation or reporting him for being an overstay and removing him.
Probably one of those cases where he came across with his parents who were given documentation and the documentation is no longer available.
Probably one of those cases where he came across with his parents who were given documentation and the documentation is no longer available.
I94s back.
Nonetheless, he seems to have drifted along paying less attention than most. "I got out of the airforce" he said "and got a place at university in Ontario", it was a second before I realised he meant the US Air Force, "when I got to the border there was some issue about admiting me because I didn't have any paperwork".
"I shouted at them in French so they'd know I went to school in Montreal".
I bet that works a treat these days.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
A slight twist on that is the case of a man in the office here. He's engaged a consultant to help him apply for a PR card. (I believe in fact he needs to establish PR before getting the card). This is so he can claim the pension.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
He's the new record holder in people I've met who have been in Canada for a long time without status. He arrived in 1954.
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That, granted, is beside the point, he must have a SIN; he's been an employee of a big company for many years. Getting a SIN didn't require much documentation until quite recently though; I recall my brother got one many years before he was legal here. I expect Mr. 1954 had a student job and got a SIN for that on the strength of a student card or similar. Maybe he had one even before that, who knows what procedures applied in Montreal in the sixties.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
In 1974 I used to issue NINOs.
I'd receive an application for a number - just basic personal details and maybe a birth/marriage cert at most, send a shuttle card to Newcastle which either came back with their number or no record.
I'd then issue a handwritten card (to have stamps stuck on - ) with that number or a new one from the supply of new numbers from my desk drawer. Job done.
If the folk who deal with it now knew how it used to be done they'd have a heart attack. The detail and documentation (not to mention life story) needed now is huge in comparison.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
I last drove through Quebec in 2010, and the only place I saw signs say no right turn on red was on every route into the Ille de Montreal.
Native's Guide to Montreal
Scroll down to Getting Around Montreal.
Native's Guide to Montreal
Scroll down to Getting Around Montreal.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
I last drove through Quebec in 2010, and the only place I saw signs say no right turn on red was on every route into the Ille de Montreal.
Native's Guide to Montreal
Scroll down to Getting Around Montreal.
Native's Guide to Montreal
Scroll down to Getting Around Montreal.
There is such an intersection near us. The limit on that road is 70, so everyone drives at 90. Turning into it, you cannot see more than 30 yards to the left. An F150 T-boning you is not an attractive prospect.
Transport planners do sometimes get things right.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
It's the federal non-means tested pension (oas?) that requires the documentation. I don't think contributions are required and suppose that's why a claim requires proof of status.
That, granted, is beside the point, he must have a SIN; he's been an employee of a big company for many years. Getting a SIN didn't require much documentation until quite recently though; I recall my brother got one many years before he was legal here. I expect Mr. 1954 had a student job and got a SIN for that on the strength of a student card or similar. Maybe he had one even before that, who knows what procedures applied in Montreal in the sixties.
That, granted, is beside the point, he must have a SIN; he's been an employee of a big company for many years. Getting a SIN didn't require much documentation until quite recently though; I recall my brother got one many years before he was legal here. I expect Mr. 1954 had a student job and got a SIN for that on the strength of a student card or similar. Maybe he had one even before that, who knows what procedures applied in Montreal in the sixties.
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Re: PR's don't want to pledge
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2..._minister.html
Jean Chrétien stopped plan to get rid of oath to Queen, says former minister
Jean Chrétien stopped plan to get rid of oath to Queen, says former minister
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#120
Re: PR's don't want to pledge
So taking the oath is a reasonable requirement.........
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/na...543/story.html
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/na...543/story.html