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caroline_nisbet Jan 6th 2009 12:12 am

Missing the UK?
 
Hi
I am jsut trying to get some more information about Canada before I make a decision about leaving the UK and wondered, from those that have already moved to Canada, what everyone misses from the UK?

Thanks,
Caz

macadian Jan 6th 2009 12:14 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by caroline_nisbet (Post 7132466)
Hi
I am jsut trying to get some more information about Canada before I make a decision about leaving the UK and wondered, from those that have already moved to Canada, what everyone misses from the UK?

Thanks,
Caz

Nothing of any consequence really...other than family/friends, but that's a given really for almost everyone who makes the move...

Thomasst Jan 6th 2009 12:23 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by caroline_nisbet (Post 7132466)
Hi
I am jsut trying to get some more information about Canada before I make a decision about leaving the UK and wondered, from those that have already moved to Canada, what everyone misses from the UK?

Thanks,
Caz

As previously mentioned friends and family. I have been here for 2 years with wife and 3 kids and love the place. I missed Rugby and soccer but got that solved by getting a sports channel and involved in refereeing and coaching in schools and the local Uni.
Before we moved over we asked the children to make a list of pros and cons of staying in the UK........needless to say there was such a positive response to a new life in a new country that we moved..........You can always return !

purple80 Jan 6th 2009 12:24 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 7132478)
Nothing of any consequence really...other than family/friends, but that's a given really for almost everyone who makes the move...

Same here, we miss nothing else....

Elaine B. Jan 6th 2009 12:28 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by caroline_nisbet (Post 7132466)
Hi
I am jsut trying to get some more information about Canada before I make a decision about leaving the UK and wondered, from those that have already moved to Canada, what everyone misses from the UK?

Thanks,
Caz


For me I missed my family especially once I had kids and I just never felt at home in Canada, oddly enough either did my Canadian OH:blink:

It might be worth reading the Moving Back forum. Good luck with you decision.:thumbup:

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 2:09 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Roast chicken crisps, my mum's Sunday lunch and my mum, Eastenders and a decent wage for a job .. Not in that order ..

Nothing else.

MikeUK Jan 6th 2009 2:15 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
I miss being upto date
in a fashion aware world
where people do know whats happening in the rest of the world
Where snow come's maybe once a year
where a days travel means going to new and intresting places and not staying in one province
Where you can buy quality
Where people don't spend all there time trying (or pretending) to be 'better' than their southern neighbours
Or where peole like to think they're 'green' when any quick observation of a highway wil prove beyond doubt otherwise

Other than that not much :blink:

Danny B Jan 6th 2009 2:17 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Strangely enough, the rain. We only seem to get sun & snow here in Kamloops.

Bellanova Jan 6th 2009 2:30 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Pretty much what everyone else has said, my friends and family, my job (I'm not working at the mo) and going out with my buddie's!! Thats it really, I don't miss the doom and gloom of the UK thats for sure, good luck with you investigations into coming to Canada :thumbsup:
Bella

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 2:35 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
I'm not rich .. just working class .. but i loved how i could walk into M & S and not have people looking down at me ..

Here (some) people seem to be stuck up snobs almost pretentious .. I wont go to the mall on Saturdays because of it ..

In England, even if you were/had been working at McDonalds, its a job and you at least you aint on the dole .. Here, i feel "maccy D's is not good enough" and looked down on ..

That is just my opinion though ..

:unsure:

D15NEY Jan 6th 2009 2:41 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Family & friends. x

Tracie107 Jan 6th 2009 3:28 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Family and friends.

But nowadays technology is great so I get to speak to them 3/4 times a week via Skype or a phone call which is bloody cheap. Other than this we don't miss anything about the UK.

chumley Jan 6th 2009 3:43 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
what do i miss about the uk......


absoultly nowt:lol:

whatever happens I shall never set foot in that basket case country again

startwin Jan 6th 2009 3:59 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7132845)
I'm not rich .. just working class .. but i loved how i could walk into M & S and not have people looking down at me ..

Here (some) people seem to be stuck up snobs almost pretentious .. I wont go to the mall on Saturdays because of it ..

In England, even if you were/had been working at McDonalds, its a job and you at least you aint on the dole .. Here, i feel "maccy D's is not good enough" and looked down on ..

That is just my opinion though ..

:unsure:

I find that really interesting, as I felt that way in the UK. Not arguing with you, but it just goes to show, it could be the same in both countries. Have never felt that way here in BC, so maybe back east really is more uptight than here on the west coast. ;)

JonboyE Jan 6th 2009 4:06 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by macadian (Post 7132478)
Nothing of any consequence really...

What the man said.

Ruby Murray Jan 6th 2009 4:23 am

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Just like everyone else...absolutely No.1 is family & friends that know you warts and all.
No. 2 - The milder climate
No. 3 - Amazing supermarket choice and cheap groceries
No. 4 - Way better choice for take-away food
No. 5 - The seaside...and I mean a REAL seaside, not a lake beach
No. 6 - School uniform for the kids and British education
No. 7 - Courteous drivers that will flash to let you in and blink to say thanks
No. 8 - British telly that doesn't have the same aggravating commercial interruptions like over here
No. 9 - Close proximity to Europe & Mediterranean for holidays
No. 10 - British history
No. 11 - British architecture
No. 12 - British humour

Nuff said ;)

BristolUK Jan 6th 2009 4:28 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7132845)
Here (some) people seem to be stuck up snobs almost pretentious .. I wont go to the mall on Saturdays because of it ..


Originally Posted by startwin (Post 7133143)
I find that really interesting, as I felt that way in the UK. Not arguing with you, but it just goes to show, it could be the same in both countries. Have never felt that way here in BC, so maybe back east really is more uptight than here on the west coast. ;)

I agree. I have encountered no snobbery here either. Had to laugh at 'back east' though, given how much further east I am compared to Ottawa.:)

It's all relative of course, but to me, Ottawa is out west.:lol:
Just not as far west.:)

tinytears Jan 6th 2009 4:44 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Ruby Murray (Post 7133230)
Just like everyone else...absolutely No.1 is family & friends that know you warts and all.
No. 2 - The milder climate
No. 3 - Amazing supermarket choice and cheap groceries
No. 4 - Way better choice for take-away food
No. 5 - The seaside...and I mean a REAL seaside, not a lake beach
No. 6 - School uniform for the kids and British education
No. 7 - Courteous drivers that will flash to let you in and blink to say thanks
No. 8 - British telly that doesn't have the same aggravating commercial interruptions like over here
No. 9 - Close proximity to Europe & Mediterranean for holidays
No. 10 - British history
No. 11 - British architecture
No. 12 - British humour

Nuff said ;)

Hi, can I ask when you emigrated? Just wondering because of the point about British education and courteous drivers?

My husband has said that he would miss the British history/architecture too and yet here he pays no interest to it, it was something he commented on whilst on our reccy.

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 4:47 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7132845)
In England, even if you were/had been working at McDonalds, its a job and you at least you aint on the dole .. Here, i feel "maccy D's is not good enough" and looked down on ..

:unsure:

It would be different if it was Timmie's - everybody in Canada loves the people who sell doughnuts and coffee, hehe!!

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 4:54 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Ruby Murray (Post 7133230)
Just like everyone else...absolutely No.1 is family & friends that know you warts and all.
No. 2 - The milder climate
No. 3 - Amazing supermarket choice and cheap groceries
No. 4 - Way better choice for take-away food
No. 5 - The seaside...and I mean a REAL seaside, not a lake beach
No. 6 - School uniform for the kids and British education
No. 7 - Courteous drivers that will flash to let you in and blink to say thanks
No. 8 - British telly that doesn't have the same aggravating commercial interruptions like over here
No. 9 - Close proximity to Europe & Mediterranean for holidays
No. 10 - British history
No. 11 - British architecture
No. 12 - British humour

Nuff said ;)


Really .. my 11 year old is smart (brain like a sponge), here in Canada he is behind (in England he was in the top of all his classes) and my 13 year old well bless him, he is so far behind, he is bringing alot of work home (french and math last night, oh joy and we spent the xmas break going over the math) and has joined the homework club at school just to get him up to par ..

I DO NOT miss the English education ..

The4BellsLondon Jan 6th 2009 4:58 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
My 2 kids seem to have settled ok into school - only thing I miss so far is the lack of "internet" use - for ordering stuff, insurance etc. . .

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 4:59 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by TrishB (Post 7133296)
It would be different if it was Timmie's - everybody in Canada loves the people who sell doughnuts and coffee, hehe!!

Funny you should say that .. i went to an agency yesterday and was so disheartened, i felt like i was treated like a process as opposed to a person. Wanted to offer me $9.50 hr .. :thumbdown: .. Anyway got to redo my resume to look more cust serv oriented.
Was online earlier looking for jobs .. i typed in Timmie's .. if i am going to get near min wage, i wont be sitting at a desk, i will be running around in a shop .. not giving up hope yet though ..

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 5:00 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7133332)
Funny you should say that .. i went to an agency yesterday and was so disheartened, i felt like i was treated like a process as opposed to a person. Wanted to offer me $9.50 hr .. :thumbdown: .. Anyway got to redo my resume to look more cust serv oriented.
Was online earlier looking for jobs .. i typed in Timmie's .. if i am going to get near min wage, i wont be sitting at a desk, i will be running around in a shop .. not giving up hope yet though ..

That would've been Randstad then ... OH went to them a while back and got the runaround from them.

Elaine B. Jan 6th 2009 5:02 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by tinytears (Post 7133286)
My husband has said that he would miss the British history/architecture too and yet here he pays no interest to it, it was something he commented on whilst on our reccy.

I think it's only once you move away that you appreciate a lot of the stuff that you take for granted. I moved back to Northern Ireland in July 2007 after 8 years in Canada and realize now how many beautiful places there are close to home.

Ruby Murray Jan 6th 2009 5:03 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by tinytears (Post 7133286)
Hi, can I ask when you emigrated? Just wondering because of the point about British education and courteous drivers?

My husband has said that he would miss the British history/architecture too and yet here he pays no interest to it, it was something he commented on whilst on our reccy.

We first landed here in 2003 but went back home for 8 months in 2005 (Jan-Aug) then came back here for a 2nd crack at the whip. Don't get me wrong...I did pay attention to the complaints my son made about the idiots in his class there and that the poor teacher hardly had the time to teach them anything but it's the "content and variety" that they learn about I miss. Kids in the UK learn so much about UK's history, Britain's diverse culture & many religions, Geography covers practically everywhere worldwide. Here in Canada, my kids don't have History, R.E. or Geography...they mold it all into one subject called Social Studies, which in my opinion, offers very limited worldwide knowledge. Also, my daughter is in Grade 6 right now, she'd be in Yr 7 and in her first year of high school if we were in the UK. My niece is in Yr 6 in primary school and she is doing the same stuff in Math that my daughter is currently being taught. Me personally, am not happy with the education my kids are being offered...I'm not saying everyone feels the same as me..this is just how I feel.

Driving: The drivers over here don't have a clue what you mean when flashing your headlights to let them out of a side road or into a gap. I believe to flash your headlights is a sign of anger..not 100%. Canadians tend to beckon their finger "if" they're feeling exceptionally courteous and let you out!! It's a well-known and accepted practice in the UK to flash your lights if someone needs to move out or pull into a lane and it's usually greeted with a raised hand in the rear view window or a couple of blinks on the indicators. I know this is still the common thing to do as I was back in the UK twice last year and it was such a relief to see such good road manners!

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 5:03 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by TrishB (Post 7133339)
That would've been Randstad then ... OH went to them a while back and got the runaround from them.

Wow. There you go .. people of British expats do not use Randstad ..

I do not think i will be going back there.

I deserve better.

:thumbsup:

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 5:05 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7133346)
Wow. There you go .. people of British expats do not use Randstad ..

I do not think i will be going back there.

I deserve better.

:thumbsup:

And OH is Canadian, with 2 degrees - they were offering him stuff at $10 per hour, like c'mon!!!

Ruby Murray Jan 6th 2009 5:08 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7133341)
I think it's only once you move away that you appreciate a lot of the stuff that you take for granted. I moved back to Northern Ireland in July 2007 after 8 years in Canada and realize now how many beautiful places there are close to home.

I can really relate to that.....it's only now that I am taking such an interest in the Cathedrals, old churches and those olde-worlde buildings you find in towns like Chester, Shrewsbury and the Cotswolds

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 5:16 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Ruby Murray (Post 7133345)
We first landed here in 2003 but went back home for 8 months in 2005 (Jan-Aug) then came back here for a 2nd crack at the whip. Don't get me wrong...I did pay attention to the complaints my son made about the idiots in his class there and that the poor teacher hardly had the time to teach them anything but it's the "content and variety" that they learn about I miss. Kids in the UK learn so much about UK's history, Britain's diverse culture & many religions, Geography covers practically everywhere worldwide. Here in Canada, my kids don't have History, R.E. or Geography...they mold it all into one subject called Social Studies, which in my opinion, offers very limited worldwide knowledge. Also, my daughter is in Grade 6 right now, she'd be in Yr 7 and in her first year of high school if we were in the UK. My niece is in Yr 6 in primary school and she is doing the same stuff in Math that my daughter is currently being taught. Me personally, am not happy with the education my kids are being offered...I'm not saying everyone feels the same as me..this is just how I feel.

The move was a big change for the children as well, they are adapting. I am glad mine went down a year .. they don't need anymore pressure on them ..also your daughter is at a good age, had she been in secondary school for a few years, you may of been happy her going back a year (i sure am). In secondary school, kids become a statistic, a way to achieve high OFSTED marks/results, primary school teaching was nice, the kids wanted to impress.

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 5:18 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by TrishB (Post 7133349)
And OH is Canadian, with 2 degrees - they were offering him stuff at $10 per hour, like c'mon!!!

bloody hell :huh:

tinytears Jan 6th 2009 5:18 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Ruby Murray (Post 7133345)
We first landed here in 2003 but went back home for 8 months in 2005 (Jan-Aug) then came back here for a 2nd crack at the whip. Don't get me wrong...I did pay attention to the complaints my son made about the idiots in his class there and that the poor teacher hardly had the time to teach them anything but it's the "content and variety" that they learn about I miss. Kids in the UK learn so much about UK's history, Britain's diverse culture & many religions, Geography covers practically everywhere worldwide. Here in Canada, my kids don't have History, R.E. or Geography...they mold it all into one subject called Social Studies, which in my opinion, offers very limited worldwide knowledge. Also, my daughter is in Grade 6 right now, she'd be in Yr 7 and in her first year of high school if we were in the UK. My niece is in Yr 6 in primary school and she is doing the same stuff in Math that my daughter is currently being taught. Me personally, am not happy with the education my kids are being offered...I'm not saying everyone feels the same as me..this is just how I feel.

Driving: The drivers over here don't have a clue what you mean when flashing your headlights to let them out of a side road or into a gap. I believe to flash your headlights is a sign of anger..not 100%. Canadians tend to beckon their finger "if" they're feeling exceptionally courteous and let you out!! It's a well-known and accepted practice in the UK to flash your lights if someone needs to move out or pull into a lane and it's usually greeted with a raised hand in the rear view window or a couple of blinks on the indicators. I know this is still the common thing to do as I was back in the UK twice last year and it was such a relief to see such good road manners!


Aha, you see my kids go to a fabulous school here but we have to travel half an hour each way for it which isn't a great use of time but I do feel blessed we have this as an option here. However when I moved them to the school they were in classes of 18-20 (3 classes per year), but because the school gets such good grades the LEA just cut their budget and all they had to get rid of five teaching staff so the kids are now in classes of 34 with several other children due to move from other schools it is getting a little bit to cramped in there. These budget cuts seem to be happening to many of the schools that get good grades - so that the resources can be put into inner city schools. It really feels as if we are being sold down the river in many ways.

Re the driving I was surprised because people seemed a lot more courteous when we were out there - they actually stopped at four way crossings where nobody stops at a round about anymore and people doing right turns just seem to pull out regardless of whether there is any space or not.

Horses for courses isn't it? I guess if everyone loved there, everyone would be there and vice versa for it in the other direction.

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 5:21 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7133365)
bloody hell :huh:

Well, after a year of applying for every job possible in the government, sitting government exams and doing interviews weekly, he's finally got his foot in the door! Started just before Christmas in the cushiest job ever .. totally mind-numbing, but the government benefits are great!! :thumbsup:

sas-lou Jan 6th 2009 5:24 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by TrishB (Post 7133375)
Well, after a year of applying for every job possible in the government, sitting government exams and doing interviews weekly, he's finally got his foot in the door! Started just before Christmas in the cushiest job ever .. totally mind-numbing, but the government benefits are great!! :thumbsup:

Excellent. The hard work finally paid off ..:thumbsup:

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 5:25 am

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Originally Posted by sas-lou (Post 7133389)
Excellent. The hard work finally paid off ..:thumbsup:

Now I want in :p

kate white Jan 6th 2009 5:30 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by caroline_nisbet (Post 7132466)
Hi
I am jsut trying to get some more information about Canada before I make a decision about leaving the UK and wondered, from those that have already moved to Canada, what everyone misses from the UK?

Thanks,
Caz

I dont miss the Uk as such, I miss my mom and some of my family but mostly the silly things I miss, like oxo cubes ect does that count:blink:

TrishP Jan 6th 2009 5:32 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by kate white (Post 7133407)
I dont miss the Uk as such, I miss my mom and some of my family but mostly the silly things I miss, like oxo cubes ect does that count:blink:

You can buy Oxo cubes in Canada ;)

Steve_P Jan 6th 2009 5:42 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by TrishB (Post 7133411)
You can buy Oxo cubes in Canada ;)

Not in Calgary or possibly Alberta.:p

What you can or cannot get in Canada varies by region. ;)

Tangram Jan 6th 2009 6:52 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 
Miss nothing, maybe my old job ( which is much changed anyway since I left ), but apart from that can't see myself returning barring any disaster.

MikeUK Jan 6th 2009 7:00 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 7133431)
What you can or cannot get in Canada varies by region. ;)

yep...... we can get most things in the GTA

suppose thats the benifit of being the true centre of the Universe

and not some down trodden god forsaken frozen backwater (read rest of Canada)

:p

Steve_P Jan 6th 2009 7:38 am

Re: Missing the UK?
 

Originally Posted by MikeUK (Post 7133696)

suppose that's the benefit of being the true centre of the Universe

and not some down trodden god forsaken frozen backwater (read rest of Canada)

:p

I see you've adopted the Toronto attitude toward the rest of the country quite readily. :p:D


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