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Alot better than Nebraska!

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The SNP wanted to put Devo Max as a 3rd option in the referendum but westminster refused it.

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I think the Scottish MPs made quite the difference passing the Higher Education Act 2004 didn't they!?

You can compare England to a cabbage for all I care.. I'm not easily insulted :) Using my comparisons earlier then I would compare England to Texas/NY/Cali or Ontario in the weighting they have over their respective Govt. I could use an Indian state.. although my knowledge of the Indian political system and geography is lacking. Something also tells me that population doesn't play that big of a role in representation in India.

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Wouldn't that be detrimental to the independence vote though? Voters may go to devo max as they believe it o's more likely to pass rather than risk voting for independence and fail.

If the referendum comes back a No, I think there will be more power going to Holyrood anyway.

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well now, that's interesting. neilcumming, I assume you don't know very much of the history of Bangladesh. It might be instructive for an "emotional yes" supporter such as yourself to read up on it.

In brief, what is now Bangladesh was the eastern part of the divided state of Pakistan after the separation of India in 1947. After years of feeling politically, economically and linguistically excluded from decisions made in Karachi (and subsequently Islamabad), the secessionist movement in East Pakistan gained momentum through initially peaceful civil action, that descended into a bitter and bloody civil war in the 1970s. For all the promises of greater financial prosperity brought on by direct access to foreign markets (notably India), Bangladesh remains one of the poorest and most deprived nations on Earth.

If that is your chosen comparison to Scotland's fate, it does not bode well for your understanding of the implications of independence, nor for your views of Scotland's future.

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Ultimately Scotland will have to decide with its head or it's heart. The economic arguments seem to be against independence, and even the international politics (EU accession) are not that favourable. Nevertheless there is something to be said for the independence of any people. Ironically Britain will be going through a very similar soul search when the EU referendum is held (2017). Neither Scotland or Britain will collapse if it chooses independence, it will simply be a different path.

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I dont think any scottish MP should be voting on any english matters thats why we need independence.People cant really bitch about it we are all in an "union" right? ;) By the way the 5 SNP MPs voted against it,the scottish Lab MPs ,well they were just following party policy which is the norm.

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I wasnt comparing Bangladesh or East Pakistan to Scotland.I was saying if someone wanted to make comparisons of Scotland they could do alot better than Nebraska.

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Could always just bar MP's from Scotland voting on non Scottish matters.

There were actually over 70 Labour MP's who voted against the bill.. so Scottish Labour MP's wouldn't have exactly been on their own. There was also the option to abstain. The fact that many MP's from Scotland votes yes was a farce to be honest. So I really don't buy the one sided union thing :)

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I was comparing East Pakistan to Scotland, as Oakvillian has explained.

The only aspect of Nebraska that I might compare to Scotland is the giant "Outlaw Sodomy" sign; that's a bit Presby.

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Scots can keep the pound says Osbourne.
http://www.bbc.scotlandshire.co.uk/i...-osbourne.html

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I don't quite get where you're coming from: you blow hot and cold in strange ways. It's not conceivable, is it, that you think that site is any more serious than the Onion?

No, of course it's not. You're a Celt.

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More tumshie than braveheart. It's his life's ambition to break the union though and he'll say whatever he thinks will achieve it. If it works it'll take years to sort out the mess.

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On the Orwellian propensities of Mr Salmond...

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...poilt-children

But in each of the three cases – George Osborne's ruling out of a currency union, José Manuel Barroso's warnings that Scotland's place in the EU is not automatic and, most recently, Gordon Brown's return to the fray to caution about the future of Scottish pensions – the SNP response has been the same. First, the problem raised by the critic is airily dismissed and denied; second, an untested solution is confidently asserted; finally, the nationalist attack machine clatters the man not the ball.

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http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...A1J01220140220

LONDON (Reuters) - Just under one-third (29 percent) of Scots plan to vote for independence in this year's referendum, according to a poll on Thursday that also found 42 percent intended to vote against.

But the TNS poll also found another 29 percent were still undecided ahead of the September 18 vote to decide whether Scotland, which has a population of just over 5 million and is a source of North Sea oil, should end its 307-year-old union with England and leave the UK.