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willf Feb 21st 2014 3:28 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by burks (Post 11141195)
I have read that 25% of the oil is in the Shetland's territory.. They could always hold their own referendum upon Scottish independence to remain part of the UK rather than go it alone :P

That works for me :D:lol:

scot47 Feb 21st 2014 3:46 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 
Expect interesting negotiations after a YES vote

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=no...2F%3B550%3B432

neilcumming Feb 21st 2014 4:05 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by burks (Post 11141195)
I have read that 25% of the oil is in the Shetland's territory.. They could always hold their own referendum upon Scottish independence to remain part of the UK rather than go it alone :P

Oh aye,I can see that happening ,them handing over "their " oil revenues to Wasteminster to help pay off the trillion pound debt and "enjoying" their share of the 25 bil pound cuts in gov.services winging its way next year .Why would anyone vote for that!? Nice try but you need to try harder :)

willf Feb 21st 2014 4:50 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11141306)
Oh aye,I can see that happening ,them handing over "their " oil revenues to Wasteminster to help pay off the trillion pound debt and "enjoying" their share of the 25 bil pound cuts in gov.services winging its way next year .Why would anyone vote for that!? Nice try but you need to try harder :)


The Scots played their part in building up the debt, so it's only fair they should pay their share, I'm all for Independence, but you can't have it both ways.

neilcumming Feb 21st 2014 5:00 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by willf (Post 11141377)
The Scots played their part in building up the debt, so it's only fair they should pay their share, I'm all for Independence, but you can't have it both ways.

The scottish gov. have stated that after independence Scotland will pay its share of the debt,8% which is Scotland's percentage size of UK pop.

burks Feb 21st 2014 5:37 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11141306)
Oh aye,I can see that happening ,them handing over "their " oil revenues to Wasteminster to help pay off the trillion pound debt and "enjoying" their share of the 25 bil pound cuts in gov.services winging its way next year .Why would anyone vote for that!? Nice try but you need to try harder :)

Why would they want 'their' oil to help fund an independent Scotland?

jimf Feb 21st 2014 11:27 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by burks (Post 11141455)
Why would they want 'their' oil to help fund an independent Scotland?

SNP doesn't seem to have much traction in Shetland........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-Scotland.html

neilcumming Feb 22nd 2014 12:36 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by burks (Post 11141455)
Why would they want 'their' oil to help fund an independent Scotland?

Er,they are a scottish island,part of scotland,scottish people?

Shard Feb 22nd 2014 12:39 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11142818)
Er,they are a scottish island,part of scotland,scottish people?

The Shetlanders are as Scottish as the Scots are British.

neilcumming Feb 22nd 2014 4:00 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11142820)
The Shetlanders are as Scottish as the Scots are British.

It all depends on your point of view,Im scottish but I dont feel british.

Shard Feb 22nd 2014 4:09 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11143010)
It all depends on your point of view,Im scottish but I dont feel british.

Precisely. There must be Shetlanders that don't feel Scottish.

Paul_Shepherd Feb 22nd 2014 4:32 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11143010)
It all depends on your point of view,Im scottish but I dont feel british.

Well you are British, we have all been British for the last 300 years and that's the way it will hopefully stay...well maybe not us, as we live in Canada now, but our families that remain in Britain.

The same as Quebec is Canadian....but there is another argument

Paul_Shepherd Feb 22nd 2014 4:34 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11142012)
SNP doesn't seem to have much traction in Shetland........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...-Scotland.html

Hmmm...very interesting that. zero traction it seems...well that's good for the union.

neilcumming Feb 22nd 2014 5:46 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 11143048)
Well you are British, we have all been British for the last 300 years and that's the way it will hopefully stay...well maybe not us, as we live in Canada now, but our families that remain in Britain.

The same as Quebec is Canadian....but there is another argument

Technically Im a british citizen but my nationality is scottish,I have never felt or said Im british AND scottish like some people do.
The Shetlands arent "oil rich" isles.They may have some jobs from the oil fields but all the tax revenues goes to Westminister.If they chose to stay with the UK will the Treasury cut a deal with them or just the status quo where the money is just wasted and has been for the last 40yrs and the prospect of being stuck with the tories for ever and a day or go with an indy Scotland and have a fairer share of the revenues.

Shard Feb 22nd 2014 5:53 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11143101)
Technically Im a british citizen but my nationality is scottish,I have never felt or said Im british AND scottish like some people do.
The Shetlands arent "oil rich" isles.They may have some jobs from the oil fields but all the tax revenues goes to Westminister.If they chose to stay with the UK will the Treasury cut a deal with them or just the status quo where the money is just wasted and has been for the last 40yrs and the prospect of being stuck with the tories for ever and a day or go with an indy Scotland and have a fairer share of the revenues.

What's wrong with being British? I can understand that you might have reservations about the English (as some Scots do) but British is a completely different animal. At the moment Scotland is an integral part of Britain and British identity. Do you feel in any sense European or only Scottish?


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