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Novocastrian Feb 17th 2014 10:20 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by scottishcelts (Post 11134513)
Irony?

Doubt it.

dgagitw Feb 17th 2014 2:07 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by scottishcelts (Post 11134513)
Irony?

No, deadly serious.

jimf Feb 17th 2014 2:43 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by dgagitw (Post 11134738)
No, deadly serious.

Independence for Scotland or not England will continue to be blamed for anything and everything in Scotland for years, decades perhaps even centuries to come. Among those with a full set of chips that is.

jimf Feb 17th 2014 2:50 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 
Come on Alex you can do better than this.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...the-pound.html

scottishcelts Feb 17th 2014 2:57 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11134779)
Independence for Scotland or not England will continue to be blamed for anything and everything in Scotland for years, decades perhaps even centuries to come. Among those with a full set of chips that is.



Always an excuse for the Scots attempting to discuss anything to do with England. It gets boring after a while.

scottishcelts Feb 17th 2014 2:57 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by dgagitw (Post 11134738)
No, deadly serious.

So am I.

Novocastrian Feb 17th 2014 3:52 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11134788)
Come on Alex you can do better than this.......

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/e...the-pound.html

Apparently not. He's not really suited to be a 21st century Braveheart, is he?

This thread of course, as ever, is not going to change a lot of minds, one way or the other, but FFS, this whole idea is irrational, simply based on perceived inequalities of opportunity among various regions of the country, coupled with the undeniable fact that Scotland used to be an independent, but feckless, country some several hundreds of years ago.

If the Yes vote wins, the best of luck. But Mr. S. really has no idea.

You can't run a country for long on emotional appeals to a lost and distant past.

scot47 Feb 17th 2014 8:38 pm

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 
John Reid along with Helen Liddell and dozens of others sit as peers in the House of Lords. Can you keep them please after we vote YES ?

Hawk13 Feb 18th 2014 1:58 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11134841)
Apparently not. He's not really suited to be a 21st century Braveheart, is he?

This thread of course, as ever, is not going to change a lot of minds, one way or the other, but FFS, this whole idea is irrational, simply based on perceived inequalities of opportunity among various regions of the country, coupled with the undeniable fact that Scotland used to be an independent, but feckless, country some several hundreds of years ago.

If the Yes vote wins, the best of luck. But Mr. S. really has no idea.

You can't run a country for long on emotional appeals to a lost and distant past.

Maybe, just maybe, it's comments like that that make people want to vote YES

montreal mike Feb 18th 2014 2:14 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 11135394)
Maybe, just maybe, it's comments like that that make people want to vote YES

even so, that is a piss-poor excuse to vote YES

Hawk13 Feb 18th 2014 3:00 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by montreal mike (Post 11135414)
even so, that is a piss-poor excuse to vote YES

Only if you take the "doom and gloom" mentality to a YES vote and from what I can tell, there's a few Scots that don't view it that way.

dgagitw Feb 18th 2014 3:21 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11134779)
Independence for Scotland or not England will continue to be blamed for anything and everything in Scotland for years, decades perhaps even centuries to come. Among those with a full set of chips that is.

Yes, but as is the case for the Republic of Ireland, most of that noise will be the other side of the border and thus out of earshot.

neilcumming Feb 18th 2014 3:59 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by burks (Post 11134344)
If it is so one-sided how is it that Scottish MP's can vote on legislation that does not affect Scotland..

Over 80% of the population lives in England. The union is obviously going to reflect that.

I have also never referred to Scotland as a region or a state or a province. I merely drew parallels to representations of smaller populations within a larger political entity. After all, Scotland is a part of a larger political entity.. the UK.

There are 59 scottish MPS at Westminster,41 Labour,11 Lib-Dem,6 SNP and 1 Tory.The SNP dont vote on bills etc. pertaining to England and cant see the 41 Lab MPs making much difference to the Tory Lib-Dem coalition.
I understand what you are trying to say about Scotland being part of a larger political entity but the parallels you are making are insulting to me .How would you feel if I compared England with a state in India?

dbd33 Feb 18th 2014 4:04 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 

Originally Posted by neilcumming (Post 11135562)
How would you feel if I compared England with a state in India?

In that part of the world, East Pakistan might be a good comparand to Scotland.

montreal mike Feb 18th 2014 4:18 am

Re: if the scots go, do you care?
 
http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNew...BrandChannel=0

More Scots would back greater devolution over independence: poll


but what more would they want that they do not already have?


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