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Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Canada's professional bodies act in a way that protects their members incomes rather than their members professional standards
Not unlike Britain, the US and many other countries then. In aviation, European standards are way higher than pretty much the rest of the world
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:41 am
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You've clearly not read what I've written. At no point have I implied that I'm entitled to or expecting special treatment. But in my previous posts I have highlighted areas where I think Canada makes a big flipping mistake compared with other countries that do it much better. I'm getting just a tad tired of defending a point I'm not even making though.

Regarding your comment about immigrants from other countries I don't really see your point. The fact they have more challenges does NOT preclude what has happened to me and my family which in any culture or nationality is devastating.

And now you chose to bring it up I really don't think other immigrants do adapt so well as you suggest. Many continue living in poverty when they come here. They eat and sleep exactly as if they were in their native land. And many who don't speak English clearly don't learn it when they arrive. They behave and act exactly like they would in their native countries. Look, for example, at the reputation that Richmond, BC rightly has. So I'm throwing that argument out the window.

Sure we can cite one-off examples where someone came here as a refugee and is now a multi-billionaire. I love those stories as much as anyone. But they still don't preclude what happened to me and my family in Canada, no matter how grateful you think I should feel.

Originally Posted by Partially discharged
Agreed..what bugs me is the sense of entitlement the OP has and his belief that 'Canada' as a whole was just waiting for him to arrive and they could help him. Believe me, in terms of immigrants, those from the UK really have it good compared to other immigrants who in many ways have to learn a new language, major reference points etc.

If Canada is so awful head back to the land of Big Brother and Chavs.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by The Aviator
Not unlike Britain, the US and many other countries then.
No idea about the US, but my perception is that it's worse here than in the UK. Note the emphasis; I have no basis in actual evidence for this other than what I read on here.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:47 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Everybody who has a Phd is highly educated and will have been without experience at some point in their career. Not sure what your point is? That Canada is no good for newly qualified graduates?
As with anyone with a higher education. The point being some come to Canada with a PhD in a field there is little demand for or they are fresh out of education and many employers require experience as well as education. When they have a choice, they would no doubt take those with the experience as well as the education. Canada is not the only country in the world where PhDs drive cabs.
 
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Originally Posted by Lord Vader
Why the hell would the doctor drive cab in Canada? Why not be making the big bucks somewhere else? Some of these stories don't make any sense.
Because I'd suspect that there are legal penalties for doing so I'd suggest. Practicing as a doctor when not licensed by the Province could possibly even get one deported in theory.

Originally Posted by The Aviator
Not unlike Britain, the US and many other countries then.
Exactly. I figure the Royal College of Surgeons would be the same if someone immigrated to the UK from another country.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by The Aviator
As with anyone with a higher education. The point being some come to Canada with a PhD in a field there is little demand for or they are fresh out of education and many employers require experience as well as education. When they have a choice, they would no doubt take those with the experience as well as the education. Canada is not the only country in the world where PhDs drive cabs.
I know this. But not every employer (even in Canada) can demand experience; at some point you've got to give a job to some fresh faced kid out of school or the entire system will grind to a halt.
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
No idea about the US, but my perception is that it's worse here than in the UK. Note the emphasis; I have no basis in actual evidence for this other than what I read on here.
Don't let Butch read this.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I know this. But not every employer (even in Canada) can demand experience; at some point you've got to give a job to some fresh faced kid out of school or the entire system will grind to a halt.
They could do an internship when they are at university.
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook
Exactly. I figure the Royal College of Surgeons would be the same if someone immigrated to the UK from another country.
Assuming the same experience, Canada recognises and accepts a European pilots license (take a 30 minute test on flight rules) and you have it. Not that any operator is going to hire you without making sure you can fly the thing and get it back on the ground so they can use it again.

It's much harder to get a European license having a US or Canadian license (sit every written exam, 14 or so and fly check rides).
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
They could do an internship when they are at university.
Yes, I guess they could devalue their abilities and give themselves away for nothing (or close to it).
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 10:00 am
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
I know this. But not every employer (even in Canada) can demand experience; at some point you've got to give a job to some fresh faced kid out of school or the entire system will grind to a halt.
However there are already enough fresh faced kids coming out of school here looking for work.

Some people just make a career of going to school!
 
Old Dec 17th 2009 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by The Aviator
However there are already enough fresh faced kids coming out of school here looking for work.

Some people just make a career of going to school!
Sure, but the SW visa is heavily geared towards people with both degrees and experience. If you have both of these then you meet the points requirements easily (it's harder to get the points if you have one without the other). I also thought that you had to have a minimum of 1 years experience in your chosen field before you can apply for a SW visa (but maybe that's changed).
 
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Originally Posted by Alan2005
Yes, I guess they could devalue their abilities and give themselves away for nothing (or close to it).
They can do it while you are doing your degree to get some experience and you can often get course credit for it, a small stipend and you get to flirt with the older girls in the office.
 
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Originally Posted by Oink
They can do it while you are doing your degree to get some experience and you can often get course credit for it, a small stipend and you get to flirt with older and girls in the office.
Well there has to be some compensation for working for next to nothing. We've had interns at our place; not sure what they did all day though.
 
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Look, for example, at the reputation that Richmond, BC rightly has.
And what reputation is that?
 


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