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Old Dec 18th 2009 | 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
If you are a temporary foreign worker like me, right now - you are screwed. I got laid off three times, last time was 4 weeks ago. No money to go back home to the UK and I now watch as my wife goes to work in minus 40 degrees and two feet of snow.

Their is work out there - 44000 jobs on jobbank.ca, load of work on kajiji, and workopolis is amass with work. But Service Canada wont let me lift so much as a broom because my work permit is site specific. And the LMO stuff is just typical of this shyte hole.


I just cant get my head round the stupid legislation that is alienating and forcing immigrants to scavenge for coke cans and bottles so they have enough to but a burger. Fer fek's sake dont the idiots at Service Canada realise we are in the 20th century? Help the foreign workers, not make life so hard thay have to resort to asking people for money on the streets.

You knew the risks and conditions of taking a work permit, so why the bitterness?

Help yourself and start your own business if there's nothing out there for you - a TWP can be issued for just that circumstance. Canada doesn't owe you a living, you need to help yourself as much as possible.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 3:58 am
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Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
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At last - here I was thinking I am the only one with a problem with Canada. If you are a temporary foreign worker like me, right now - you are screwed. I got laid off three times, last time was 4 weeks ago. No money to go back home to the UK and I now watch as my wife goes to work in minus 40 degrees and two feet of snow.

Their is work out there - 44000 jobs on jobbank.ca, load of work on kajiji, and workopolis is amass with work. But Service Canada wont let me lift so much as a broom because my work permit is site specific. And the LMO stuff is just typical of this shyte hole.

Dont get me wrong people. The Canadians can be friendly and polite - when was the last time you held a conversation with your bus driver?

I just cant get my head round the stupid legislation that is alienating and forcing immigrants to scavenge for coke cans and bottles so they have enough to but a burger. Fer fek's sake dont the idiots at Service Canada realise we are in the 20th century? Help the foreign workers, not make life so hard thay have to resort to asking people for money on the streets.

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Are Temporary Foreign Workers allowed to claim EI?
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 3:59 am
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Originally Posted by dboy
I like this .... I know what you mean. I could never figure out why I liked the West End in Vancouver so much, as it is largely made up of uninspiring highrises that are reminiscent of council flats in UK cities. Despite this, its a very livable neighbourhood, and overall I've always felt very at home there. For some odd reason, it works.
Its works because there's the seaside. If you put the West End of Vancouver somewhere else, it'd be just what it is, a shabby place with crap shops.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:05 am
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I worked a year for the same company, (amazing innit?) so I can claim E.I. Not sure it that applies if you havent worked for a company for less time though.

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Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by pgtips
Maybe because they are already a highly trained doctor in Nigeria, or do you have some notion all African doctors are witch doctors ?
Nigeria loses a Doctor, and the Nigerian Doctor can't practice in Canada because his/her qualifications aren't recognised. Lose-lose all round I'd suggest.

Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
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At last - here I was thinking I am the only one with a problem with Canada. If you are a temporary foreign worker like me, right now - you are screwed. I got laid off three times, last time was 4 weeks ago. No money to go back home to the UK and I now watch as my wife goes to work in minus 40 degrees and two feet of snow.

Their is work out there - 44000 jobs on jobbank.ca, load of work on kajiji, and workopolis is amass with work. But Service Canada wont let me lift so much as a broom because my work permit is site specific. And the LMO stuff is just typical of this shyte hole.

Dont get me wrong people. The Canadians can be friendly and polite - when was the last time you held a conversation with your bus driver?

I just cant get my head round the stupid legislation that is alienating and forcing immigrants to scavenge for coke cans and bottles so they have enough to but a burger. Fer fek's sake dont the idiots at Service Canada realise we are in the 20th century? Help the foreign workers, not make life so hard thay have to resort to asking people for money on the streets.

Steve
I've been laid off twice recently too, but I have a Temporary Work Permit that allows me to work anywhere in Canada for any employer. Yes, life has been difficult at times since immigrating, but I love a challenge.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:11 am
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You must be on an open work permit, this allows you to work for anybody - Lucky you, EH?
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
You must be on an open work permit, this allows you to work for anybody - Lucky you, EH?
Yep. Have to renew it every 12 months though. Same with my SIN.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:31 am
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So, Mr. Captainhook.

If I send my site specific work permit to the aliens at Vegreville and request an open work permit, complete with any charges they make, they will oblige?

Fneh! I think not!!
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
Its works because there's the seaside. If you put the West End of Vancouver somewhere else, it'd be just what it is, a shabby place with crap shops.
Yes the merits of the seaside are obvious, but its more that that, there's a certain vibe to the place. The leafy streets help too. I actually like the stores and the bohemian flair of denman.
 
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Originally Posted by pgtips
Forced to mini cab because he has a family to support and feed. I remember meeting a guy from south America, both him and his wife were professionals but have now found themselves doing cleaning jobs, because their experience and qualifications have been rubbished in Canada.
Hardly forced though. If you are a doctor you need to retrain and convert your qualifications. This isn't a case of them 'being' rubbished - it is a regulated proffesion - and with good reason. If you don't do this then this scenario is envitable. You can hardly say it was a suprise.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:38 am
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Originally Posted by Squiddgelalert
I worked a year for the same company, (amazing innit?) so I can claim E.I. Not sure it that applies if you havent worked for a company for less time though.

Steve
The same EI requirements apply to TWP holders as anyone else, you have to have worked enough hours in the first place to put in a claim.

The point of the LMO process is in part to ensure that there is a long term need for the worker (ie the job wont evaporate) and in part to ensure the worker is not exploited for a lower than normal wage. Thats the reason the TWP is job and site specific. Everyone who comes on a TWP knows the conditions and knows deep down that if the economy takes a crap that they are the first to be canned.

Its not a stable situation long term, and it sucks to be caught in it.
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:39 am
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Originally Posted by dboy
Yes the merits of the seaside are obvious, but its more that that, there's a certain vibe to the place. The leafy streets help too. I actually like the stores and the bohemian flair of denman.

The seaside part is really quite nice, with well kept grassy bits.
 
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Originally Posted by bodgerx
Hardly forced though. If you are a doctor you need to retrain and convert your qualifications. This isn't a case of them 'being' rubbished - it is a regulated proffesion - and with good reason. If you don't do this then this scenario is envitable. You can hardly say it was a suprise.
I don't think people who believe in God should be doctors. If I was being operated on a by a surgeon, I wouldn't want them to think that it was no big deal if they balls the operation up as i'd be going to a better place. No wonder so many people die under the knife. The quicker the Canadian Health system introduces an atheists only policy, the better
 
Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:44 am
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Originally Posted by bodgerx
Hardly forced though. If you are a doctor you need to retrain and convert your qualifications. This isn't a case of them 'being' rubbished - it is a regulated proffesion - and with good reason. If you don't do this then this scenario is envitable. You can hardly say it was a suprise.
The problem isnt that they have to be reassessed, its that there are so few opportunities for Drs to be reassessed, there simply are not nearly enough spaces on the supervised intern programs for non canadian grads to even have a fighting chance.

Engineering bodies have made life a little easier, and have at least acnowledged and addressed the old catch 22 that you couldnt get a job as a licensed engineer without having canadian work expereince first.


But what amazes me is that any professional would come to canada unaware of the lay of the land here, the requirements are all known about, so those PhDs etc driving cabs must know the odds when they board the plane.

Besides, if you have a PhD in History or Anthropology, other than teaching future historians and anthropologists there is a good chance that thats all its good for anyway. It stuck me during my time as a post grad that many students were there going through the motions killing time until they had to face the harsh reality of life outside school anyway...

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Old Dec 18th 2009 | 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by Oink
No wonder so many people die under the knife.
Remember, many of them are quite sick before they go under the knife

A friend of mine is a surgeon, he specialises in throat or oesophagus cancer surgery or something... Somethign like 10% of his patients dont make it, and he is considered one of the better guys in his field If they dont have the surgery their future tends to involve a wooden box soon enough anyway, atheist or not.
 


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