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not2old Dec 3rd 2013 1:49 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11018455)
It's marginally more ridiculous if the speaker is a man wearing a dress but I suppose this is the wrong thread to giggle at cross dressing.

A good giggle now & then can 'warm the cockles of your heart' or soul

A frock by any other name (dress) first depicted in the 6th century as being male gender [from the light up above], having a beard, dinosaur thinker, not on facebook, being unable to tweet, without having the ability to travel by mass transit, nor on a plane or have driven a car & who knows maybe JC was LGBT.

All of the above cannot be dis-proven. Did Jesus ever exist or is it all a fable?

geedee Dec 3rd 2013 2:17 am

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11018563)
Did Jesus ever exist or is it all a fable?

Doesn't really matter, does it? The message is more important than the messenger....;)

not2old Dec 3rd 2013 2:51 am

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Originally Posted by geedee (Post 11018604)
Doesn't really matter, does it? The message is more important than the messenger....;)

of course which is what this thread is all about

mikelincs Dec 3rd 2013 3:06 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11018383)
Ever heard the saying, less is more ;)

snipping quotes would be as well...

Tangram Dec 3rd 2013 3:13 am

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11018669)
of course which is what this thread is all about

Is it ? I thought it was about a couple who were unfairly and unlawfully refused accommodation because of their sexual orientation ?

Shard Dec 3rd 2013 3:14 am

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Originally Posted by rvwestfalia (Post 11018441)
To me (and most people actually), atheism is irrational. So you can keep on thinking that you are one of the "select few" who has discovered a secret truth that no one else wants to admit, and that the rest of the world is stupid and self-deluded. Or you could be a bit more humble about your philosophical position. And no, people's beliefs concerning an afterlife, and re-uniting with their loved ones after death, are not fair game.

I'd like to point out that the owners of the hotel weren't asking the gay couple to become heterosexual. They were just asking them to leave.

Which is wrong. And you're right in condemning that. But it's just as wrong to ridicule the way people give their life meaning and interpret their existence.

We're just trying to show the lost sheep the light (reason) and that the sheep don't need to rely on a inconsistent, violent, books of myths (the bible) to give their life meaning. But most of all, we don't want their superstitious beliefs to spread any more than they have done, as they tend to cause wars or lead to persecution.

dbd33 Dec 3rd 2013 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by rvwestfalia (Post 11018792)
But if you ever met truly religious people, you will see that the destructive instinct is something which is very far from their nature.

Osama bin Laden. Not destructive or not truly religious?

dbd33 Dec 3rd 2013 4:24 am

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Michael Stone, not truly religious or not destructive?

dbd33 Dec 3rd 2013 4:26 am

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The Spanish Inquisition?

Nobody forgets the Spanish Inquisition.

JonboyE Dec 3rd 2013 4:28 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11018806)
Osama bin Laden. Not destructive or not truly religious?

What happened? rvwestfalia made a good post that has disappeared.

But anyway, its not truly religious. Islamic fundamentalism is about power, the control of nations and people, what we used to call fascism in Europe. The religion is a convenient cloak. Bin Ladin was no more Islamic than the IRA were Catholic.

christmasoompa Dec 3rd 2013 4:41 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11018824)
What happened? rvwestfalia made a good post that has disappeared.

Unfortunately, it seems that he didn't read the Site Rules re: usernames before joining BE.

He's been shown the door temporarily and asked to rejoin with another username that isn't a company name.

HTH.

ultrarunner Dec 3rd 2013 4:43 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11018690)
snipping quotes would be as well...

And with that quote...it's all relative innit?

a. Is less studying for an exam encouraged?
b. Would you let daughter leave the house wearing less clothing?
c. Is less knowledge about your day job really "more" productive for your employer?
d. et al

a. less drinking is obviously "more" when it comes to consciousness and driving
b. less debt is oviously "more" in the grand scheme of things
c. less injury is obviously "more" health wise
d. Et al

bats Dec 3rd 2013 4:49 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11018703)
We're just trying to show the lost sheep the light (reason) and that the sheep don't need to rely on a inconsistent, violent, books of myths (the bible) to give their life meaning. But most of all, we don't want their superstitious beliefs to spread any more than they have done, as they tend to cause wars or lead to persecution.

I'm not thinking that way. If people want and need religion that's fine by me but to insist that others who do not belong to your club follow your rules is er, well, just plain wrong.

Using your age as a reason not to change and adapt is a facile excuse for having a closed mind.

Shard Dec 3rd 2013 4:51 am

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Originally Posted by geedee (Post 11018604)
Doesn't really matter, does it? The message is more important than the messenger....;)

I think it does matter. Those who believe the literal word of the bible (cue half of the USA) are far more likely to believe the message that they have been instructed to believe. One of the greatest shams and condescensions in Christianity is presenting the bible as factual history.

dbd33 Dec 3rd 2013 4:52 am

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Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11018824)
Bin Ladin was no more Islamic than the IRA were Catholic.

Well, the IRA are, by and large, Catholic. It may not be their Catholicism that motivates their terrorism but I think people like Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams illustrate that one can be both religious and destructive.


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