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caretaker Jan 31st 2020 12:10 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12798707)
My guess it will either be Air Canada or a government plane if Canadian military has anything capable, or maybe they will outsource to US, I can't find anything beyond vague articles saying Canada is planning to send a plane but no mention of who is providing the plane, but if going with a passenger airline, my money would be on Air Canada.

One news item said they'd lined up a charter but no word on which airline or when. Probably takes time to get 191 + whatever additional passengers together and clear them to leave.

tumbleweedly Jan 31st 2020 1:50 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
I'm suddenly grateful for the small things, like not having to walk more than three blocks for any thing I might need!

caretaker Jan 31st 2020 3:05 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Julia Wong speaks to one Albertan who is waiting for news from our country's embassy on how Canadians will be evacuated.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6485663/a...us-evacuation/
https://globalnews.ca/news/6479044/o...=%40globalnews

dave_j Jan 31st 2020 4:49 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Death rate for infection resulting in about 1 in 50, 2%.
Imagine the fear in 1917/8 onward when the Spanish Flu pandemic started and lasted about 3 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu is worth a read.
It's thought to have infected 500m worldwide and resulted in 50-100m deaths, a death rate of 10-20%.... but....
No international air travel, widespread road use or TV in those days but there were trains and newspapers.
One fact that hit me was that in the first year of the pandemic life expectancy in the US fell by 12 years. "The Spanish flu pandemic resulted in a higher than expected mortality rate for young adults."

caretaker Jan 31st 2020 5:00 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Most people from here of a certain age were taught about the epidemic in school, and I remember there was focus on Drumheller where many died in hospital.
“Here, at a time when there are people who won’t get their shots or won’t even get inoculations for their children, we’re talking about a time when the authorities … could arrest you for not wearing a mask in public,” said Sanders.
https://canada-news.org/calgary/100-...was-in-crisis/

Jsmth321 Jan 31st 2020 6:59 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Spanish Flu was also during a time of limited medical options, was really nothing doctors could do, no antibiotics yet, no antiviral medications, no real life support systems, really amazing how much things have chanced in 102 years or so, but of course we do seem to be reverting back to where bacterial infections are again becoming a problem with these super bugs.

My great great grandmother I vaguely remember her talking about Spanish flu, she was early 20's when it occurred, but I was too young to care.

US CDC has decided it wise to place a 14 day federal quarantine on the passengers who returned back to the US on the charter flight the US did, initially they were just doing a 3 day voluntarily quarantine.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/31/healt...day/index.html

dave_j Jan 31st 2020 7:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12799292)
Most people from here of a certain age were taught about the epidemic in school, and I remember there was focus on Drumheller where many died in hospital.

Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.


Former Lancastrian Jan 31st 2020 11:16 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12799400)
Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.

Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 5:22 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12799544)
Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:

Yes, the new "global" Britain can really enjoy the benefits of Asian Flu, Bubonic Plague, Lassa Fever, Ebola and all the other goodies found outside of the EU! :lol:

spouse of scouse Feb 1st 2020 5:27 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12799544)
Spanish Flu another good reason to leave the EU :britflag:


Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12799895)
Yes, the new "global" Britain can really enjoy the benefits of Asian Flu, Bubonic Plague, Lassa Fever, Ebola and all the other goodies found outside of the EU! :lol:

Stop being silly sausages :frown:

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 5:28 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12799903)
Stop being silly sausages :frown:

Sorry, just can't help it sometimes!

spouse of scouse Feb 1st 2020 5:36 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by Expatrick (Post 12799904)
Sorry, just can't help it sometimes!

I'm sure if I started a thread about farting it'd get around to Brexit sooner or later!

Siouxie Feb 1st 2020 6:25 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12799400)
Those of us born in the UK very likely never heard of the Spanish Flu.
At primary school in the fifties I knew of whooping cough, diphtheria, polio, scarlet fever, measles, chicken pox etc, illnesses that we should be worried about, but flu was simply something everyone got and then got over it.
We knew all about the wars and the empire, but Spanish flu.. nothing.
Even at secondary school where facts were crammed into our pitifully repressed brains, we learned all about the Corn Laws, the War of Jenkins Ear and the Peterloo Massacre etc.., but Spanish flu.. nothing.
No wonder we grew up ignorant.

As a child of the 50's I had whooping cough, scarlet fever, scarletina, measles, mumps (twice), german measles (rubella), tonsillitis (now called strep throat apparently) numerous times, as well as ear infection after ear infection.... oh and suspected lockjaw from falling and cutting my leg open on a farm. I've also had chicken pox and meningitis as an adult and I was exposed to TB when our mother had it. Amazing I'm still alive really according to the doom and gloom pro vaccine troops; the only innoculation I ever had was polio vaccine on a sugar lump - a tetanus shot post cut -(and yellow fever before I went to Hong Kong) - I had a very nasty bout of Flu A a few years ago, which I was very ill from for weeks and didn't recover for months........ but you know what they say "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger".

I remember being in quarantine when I had whooping cough and scarlet fever - my books from school were collected by the department of health (or whoever) and fumigated - but we were deliberately exposed to whatever 'bug' was going around, in the hope we would catch it and develop immunity.

The only time my dear old Dad got flu was the year he had a flu shot.. :D

I learned about Spanish Flu in history lessons.

Hurlabrick Feb 1st 2020 6:39 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 
Oh goodie, a Coronavirus case here in London ON now. Apparently a student returned from China through TO and studying at a local college was tested 'mildly positive'. At this stage, I do not plan to change my behaviour as regards going places. Crabby Joes tonight to watch the hockey!

Expatrick Feb 1st 2020 6:45 pm

Re: Coronavirus
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12799913)
I'm sure if I started a thread about farting it'd get around to Brexit sooner or later!

Go on, I dare you!

You're right, brexit is a bit like a virus!


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