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Old May 6th 2020, 8:33 pm
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Can't say for other provinces, but in BC they have cancelled 15,000+ surgeries to free up space in the healthcare system.

That said BC Government has never brought in nearly as extreme restrictions other places have, and the response of the BC Gov't has been pretty rational when all things considered, some people dislike the fact our premier isn't always on TV talking, but he has chosen to allow Dr. Henry to do the daily briefings, she is after-all the expert in this and I actually think its a good decision to let her take the lead.

We are far worse off now because of everything going on, so its certainly complicated life more than I ever imagined it would thinking back to January when it was first being reported on in China. I figured it would be another SARS where most places wouldn't be affected, but man was that ever wrong.

Going forward the biggest hurdle for many including us will be finding ways to keep housing and not be sleeping on the streets, Canadian's in general have heavy debt loads, so this could turn very ugly, and considering the lack of summer jobs this year for university students, they will struggle more than usual as well.

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Ontario...from next week DIY/hardware stores, garden centres and certain stores with doors onto the street, will be allowed to be open for curbside pick only.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-to...week-1.4927570
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Some of the highlights of BC plans to relax things.

British Columbia released its plans and expectations for relaxing restrictions today.

Small gatherings of 4-6 people will be permitted in time for the May long weekend.

Provincial parks expected to open May 14 for day use, camping possible in June.

Hotels, movie theaters and film industry possibly by summer.

Casinos, bars, and night clubs wont reopen anytime soon.

Aiming for school to start in September.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ay-6-1.5556699

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Ontario...from next week DIY/hardware stores, garden centres and certain stores with doors onto the street, will be allowed to be open for curbside pick only.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ontario-to...week-1.4927570
That seems an odd announcement, I picked up at Home Depot the weekend before last and garden centres have typically been open for pick up, with some allowing browsing as usual. Lots of other shops have a counter at the door and sell to the public without allowing people in. It seems like an announcement legalising what's already happened.
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That seems an odd announcement, I picked up at Home Depot the weekend before last and garden centres have typically been open for pick up, with some allowing browsing as usual. Lots of other shops have a counter at the door and sell to the public without allowing people in. It seems like an announcement legalising what's already happened.
That is exactly what my daughter said.
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That seems an odd announcement, I picked up at Home Depot the weekend before last and garden centres have typically been open for pick up, with some allowing browsing as usual. Lots of other shops have a counter at the door and sell to the public without allowing people in. It seems like an announcement legalising what's already happened.

Exactly has it is down here in Mississippi with Loew's and Home Depot. I browsed their garden center for my plantings just last week.
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That seems an odd announcement, I picked up at Home Depot the weekend before last and garden centres have typically been open for pick up, with some allowing browsing as usual. Lots of other shops have a counter at the door and sell to the public without allowing people in. It seems like an announcement legalising what's already happened.
Garden Centres are in phase 1 of the release of the Nfld lockdown which happens next week all being well. It too is an odd announcement given that Home Depot et all are still operating - and more specialist garden centres have successfully pivoted to an order online/by phone and pick up kerbside model. (My local hydroponic guy - from whom we get fresh eggs - has never been busier by the way, what with the home growing weed business taking off.) Indeed, it rather feels like some of the Nfld lockdown easiing plan is a copy and paste from other provinces. Not unexpected I guess but the twitter commentariat has been swift to point this out. Last week there was a degree of hysteria around tourists, or allegedly tourists since no-one has actually seen/spoken to them coming from away (elsewhere in Canada or <the horror>America to look at the icebergs). That prompted the swift passage of new powers yesterday that essentially means that cops can arrest, detain and repatriate come from aways who come here for non-essential purposes. Those wonderful Newfoundland tourism commercials are all being shelved for the forseeable future...

Oh yes, and the Royal St John's Regatta (Rowing) has been cancelled for the first time since the start of WW2. That's the weird public holiday we have here that only goes ahead if the weather is good enough for the regatta to run.


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(My local hydroponic guy - from whom we get fresh eggs - has never been busier by the way, what with the home growing weed business taking off.
I thought eggs would be a problem during the lock down, I usually sell a dozen most days at work and, if there's no work, there's no customers. Eggs however are in demand, the price of RTL chickens has skyrocketed and new customers have appeared. Someone, addicted to fresh eggs at work, actually drove out to buy three dozen. The issue is going to be that, if office life resumes, there'll be the egg customers there and the newly developed ones here and yet more chickens will be required.
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I thought eggs would be a problem during the lock down, I usually sell a dozen most days at work and, if there's no work, there's no customers. Eggs however are in demand, the price of RTL chickens has skyrocketed and new customers have appeared. Someone, addicted to fresh eggs at work, actually drove out to buy three dozen. The issue is going to be that, if office life resumes, there'll be the egg customers there and the newly developed ones here and yet more chickens will be required.
We have just ordered 75 chicks, the vast majority of which are meat birds. We have never tried these before and the experiment is to see if the cost is worth the additional taste. We were amazed at the difference between ours and shop purchased eggs. It will be interesting to see if the same applies to meat.

I suspect not as we don't buy our meat from supermarkets but time will tell.
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We have just ordered 75 chicks, the vast majority of which are meat birds. We have never tried these before and the experiment is to see if the cost is worth the additional taste. We were amazed at the difference between ours and shop purchased eggs. It will be interesting to see if the same applies to meat.

I suspect not as we don't buy our meat from supermarkets but time will tell.

We didn't have meat birds a second time. I'm glad to have tried it though.
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We didn't have meat birds a second time. I'm glad to have tried it though.
Was that because of the cost/benefit or the issue of the killing etc.?
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Was that because of the cost/benefit or the issue of the killing etc.?
Effort vs. benefit. Eggs, garlic, onions, peas, peppers, potatoes worth the effort. Meat birds, parsnips, carrots, not so much. This hugely depends on preference though, meat birds are certainly worth trying.
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In NB we can actually elect to have a 2 Bubble Family, but you both have to be happy with that, and once you have elected you can't change your mind. We heard about this on Friday evening and had our neighbors round on Saturday...they are in their late 80's and have no family in the Province. It was super !
NB is slipping back into its secret ways again and possibly undoing its good work so far.
More than two weeks without a new case and all 118 who tested positive have recovered. Then 2 new cases in the last 2 days.

When the first cases broke, very quickly the province said it was tracing contacts and a couple of days later had traced and tested (and found positive) a bunch of those contacts.

Contrast that with the latest release of "information" courtesy of CBC.
The latest case is travel-related and involves a person between the ages of 20 and 29 in Zone 2, which is the Saint John region, said Dr. Jennifer Russell (chief medical officer)
The individual had come into contact with someone who later tested positive for COVID-19 in Ontario. Under the border-crossing rules, the New Brunswick resident had to immediately go into self-isolation on returning to the province and had no contact with other people before being tested.
Russell wouldn't say whether that individual drove or flew to New Brunswick.
So was the NBer still in Ontario after the positive test of the contact? Or was this latest individual on the way to NB or had already arrived back in NB when they got to hear of the Ontario person's later test result. And whichever of these three scenarios played out, we're expected to believe they came into contact with nobody. Whether by car - no rest stops, or anything on the way, no gas stations, no bit of shopping before self isolating etc - or they flew but came into contact with nobody at airport, other passengers, nobody at baggage reclaim, all the way to their self isolation.
(The other of the two new cases) is still under investigation and it's not known yet if it's travel-related or a community transmission.
This is slower than previous examples when it should be far quicker (practice and a lack of pressure as there are no other cases). In the early days the primary mover for a test was the fact the person had travelled. They've extended access to tests since then but travel is still the major one. The question must already have been asked. If they haven't travelled then clearly it can't be travel related. - unless they were a close contact of someone who did travel, but the province has not been counting those as travel related.
Russell also provided more information about a person who landed at the Moncton airport last week who had tested positive for COVID-19.
This is another case of someone flying into Moncton as a potential carrier where useful information about that has come from anybody other than the NB government such as adjoining provincial governments, the airport or the airline. NB keeps schtum.
That individual was tested in Alberta, she said, and was no longer contagious on the WestJet flight to New Brunswick. "They had finished their self-isolation after their diagnosis," she said.
Public Health Agency of Canada apparently determined that the passenger in question was medically fit to fly and was not infectious.
So why was it even announced, why are officials saying they don't know where this person is or has been since arrival? Why are they announcing very specific flight details with the appeal "If you or anyone you have been in close contact with was on this flight, please self-isolate for 14 days" if this person was not contagious?

Premier Higgs said he was also aware of workers from outside the province working on a construction project in Fredericton who didn't self-isolate properly. However, the problem has since been resolved, Higgs said, without providing details. "To my knowledge that situation has been addressed directly to ensure they are following the rules.
We were led to believe that strict procedures were applying to people entering the province. A particular construction crew should have been easier to monitor shouldn't it? Has someone dropped the ball? "to my knowledge" is a well known cop-out.
...over the last 10 days, an average of 38 vehicles a day are being turned away from the province's seven entry points. He didn't say how many are let through.
Why not? Because we now have information to suggest that the instructions issued to those crossing the border might prove ineffective so it's best not to know for how many this may prove ineffective?

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Is it me or has something odd happened to this thread...it seems to be both Masks and Coronavirus on the subject headings of individual posts up thread ?
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