Coronavirus
Apr 23rd 2020, 4:43 pm
#1486
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Re: Coronavirus
I am not sure what you mean by "leveling off", and I don't think you do either. 
The US has been adding a steady 25,000 /day since the start of April, and the UK and Europe, if you add up all the countries, is still adding about that many every day too - with Spain, Italy. France, and Germany adding 2,000-2,500/day each and the UK adding 4,000, so those five countries alone are adding around 12,000-14,000/day - and then there are another 20+ countries to account for, so the aggregate of new cases per day in the UK and Europe is at least in the same ball-park as the US.
FWIW The US has also had significantly less than half the deaths reported in the UK and Europe.
The US has been adding a steady 25,000 /day since the start of April, and the UK and Europe, if you add up all the countries, is still adding about that many every day too - with Spain, Italy. France, and Germany adding 2,000-2,500/day each and the UK adding 4,000, so those five countries alone are adding around 12,000-14,000/day - and then there are another 20+ countries to account for, so the aggregate of new cases per day in the UK and Europe is at least in the same ball-park as the US.
FWIW The US has also had significantly less than half the deaths reported in the UK and Europe.
Apr 23rd 2020, 4:54 pm
#1487
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Re: Coronavirus
I am not sure what you mean by "leveling off", and I don't think you do either.
The US has been adding a steady 25,000 /day since the start of April, and the UK and Europe, if you add up all the countries, is still adding about that many every day too - with Spain, Italy. France, and Germany adding 2,000-2,500/day each and the UK adding 4,000, so those five countries alone are adding around 12,000-14,000/day - and then there are another 20+ countries to account for, so the aggregate of new cases per day in the UK and Europe is at least in the same ball-park as the US.
FWIW The US has also had significantly less than half the deaths reported in the UK and Europe.
The US has been adding a steady 25,000 /day since the start of April, and the UK and Europe, if you add up all the countries, is still adding about that many every day too - with Spain, Italy. France, and Germany adding 2,000-2,500/day each and the UK adding 4,000, so those five countries alone are adding around 12,000-14,000/day - and then there are another 20+ countries to account for, so the aggregate of new cases per day in the UK and Europe is at least in the same ball-park as the US.
FWIW The US has also had significantly less than half the deaths reported in the UK and Europe.
I will admit that I am making assumptions about the US, as I think the case rate will steepen purely down to their attitude, however.......the news reported is biased so I should take that into account. Maybe I am jumping the gun a little, but I have a feeling things are going to get very bad there
Apr 23rd 2020, 5:11 pm
#1488
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Re: Coronavirus
All that said, I think the the low population density, and the low usage of public transport across most of the US has impacted and will continue to impact how the disease spreads, and why some of the statistics in the US will be significantly different from other countries. All that said, the US can operate in ways that other countries cannot - hospitals in my area largely shut down more than a month ago, discharging patients, cancelling non-urgent surgery and laying off non-medical staff! Why? Because the staff were being offered contracts to go to New York City to help with exploding numbers. In the European Onion, countries shut down their borders, in the US resources could be moved around much more easily, and I can't imagine that happening in the EO to help Italy and Spain as things spiraled out of control - and indeed there has been complaining in Europe about the lack of support by Germany for Italy and Spain.
Apr 23rd 2020, 5:42 pm
#1489
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Re: Coronavirus
Interesting article
"Doctors treating those diagnosed with COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, are seeing patients with clots throughout the body, including in the lungs and beneath the skin’s surface.:
"Doctors treating those diagnosed with COVID-19, the disease caused by the novel coronavirus, are seeing patients with clots throughout the body, including in the lungs and beneath the skin’s surface.:
Apr 24th 2020, 8:14 am
#1490
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Re: Coronavirus
Superior Poultry in Coquitlam, a sister plant of United Poultry which was closed earlier in Vancouver, has had 2 employees test positive. Some employees had been moving between the 2 plants and may account for the infection.
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/another...ltry-1.4909319
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/another...ltry-1.4909319
Apr 24th 2020, 3:45 pm
#1491
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Re: Coronavirus
But the curve in the US isn't steepening - the new numbers per day have been flat for three weeks. I think the "attitude" will affect the length of the "tail" .... I anticipate that the disease is not going to go away any time soon, and in the number of new infections in the US won't drop as fast or as far as other countries.
All that said, I think the the low population density, and the low usage of public transport across most of the US has impacted and will continue to impact how the disease spreads, and why some of the statistics in the US will be significantly different from other countries. All that said, the US can operate in ways that other countries cannot - hospitals in my area largely shut down more than a month ago, discharging patients, cancelling non-urgent surgery and laying off non-medical staff! Why? Because the staff were being offered contracts to go to New York City to help with exploding numbers. In the European Onion, countries shut down their borders, in the US resources could be moved around much more easily, and I can't imagine that happening in the EO to help Italy and Spain as things spiraled out of control - and indeed there has been complaining in Europe about the lack of support by Germany for Italy and Spain.
All that said, I think the the low population density, and the low usage of public transport across most of the US has impacted and will continue to impact how the disease spreads, and why some of the statistics in the US will be significantly different from other countries. All that said, the US can operate in ways that other countries cannot - hospitals in my area largely shut down more than a month ago, discharging patients, cancelling non-urgent surgery and laying off non-medical staff! Why? Because the staff were being offered contracts to go to New York City to help with exploding numbers. In the European Onion, countries shut down their borders, in the US resources could be moved around much more easily, and I can't imagine that happening in the EO to help Italy and Spain as things spiraled out of control - and indeed there has been complaining in Europe about the lack of support by Germany for Italy and Spain.
I do think it will be the grand vast amount of space in the USA that makes social distancing a breeze compared to EU. Wide side walks, wide streets, vast parking lots, large rooms, grand entry ways and hall ways, huge elevators, these spaces will really cut down the virus load in the air which people are breathing.
Apr 24th 2020, 6:00 pm
#1492
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Re: Coronavirus
Transit in Metro Vancouver is cutting back and laying people off.
Gonna make it a bit harder for people to get to their essential jobs or appointments but with such reduced demand and revenue, they really have no other option.
Sky train capacity will be cut 15%-40% depending on time of day, this is on top of earlier capacity cuts of 17%-20% done previously.
18 bus routes will be suspended as of today, in mid May another 47 additional routes will be suspended and all existing routes will have frequency cut.
https://www.translink.ca/Schedules-a...e-Changes.aspx
Gonna make it a bit harder for people to get to their essential jobs or appointments but with such reduced demand and revenue, they really have no other option.
Sky train capacity will be cut 15%-40% depending on time of day, this is on top of earlier capacity cuts of 17%-20% done previously.
18 bus routes will be suspended as of today, in mid May another 47 additional routes will be suspended and all existing routes will have frequency cut.
https://www.translink.ca/Schedules-a...e-Changes.aspx
Apr 25th 2020, 6:27 pm
#1494
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Apr 25th 2020, 6:39 pm
#1495
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Apr 25th 2020, 11:07 pm
#1496
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Re: Coronavirus
Thanks JG - you are a star
Apr 25th 2020, 11:08 pm
#1497
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Re: Coronavirus
Here's the situation in the easiest province to draw. The graphs for confirmed cases and for recoveries are quite similar. There is a fairly even split between genders and age groups as well. Mostly I wanted to post it because there's a hella picture of the virus, it's really bright!
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/8-new-sask...ered-1.4911901
https://regina.ctvnews.ca/8-new-sask...ered-1.4911901
Apr 26th 2020, 2:36 pm
#1498
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Re: Coronavirus
Surely the hardest thing in measuring the numbers of people affected is that not every country or even Province is using the same yardstick. We have no idea really about what protocol China was using, and certainly it would seem that a lot of older people who are dying are not being marked down as C19 victims, just ‘dead’.
Things are being eased for us a little in NB now, parks and golf courses and various recreational facilities are opening back up, but self distancing is still in place. We have had 7 days with no new cases, we’ve had no deaths! And nobody is in ICU. I so hope that we are not doing this too early. Nobody wants the borders to reopen anytime soon. My office is putting in place very long term plans to ensure a slow and safe return, before the general public are let back in. This hateful thing is going to be with us for an incredibly long time I fear.
NB took a lot of flack because the government closed everything down double quick and put everyone on lockdown, but it seems to have worked. They knew we didn’t have the resources to cope with a catastrophe so they sent us home. I applaud NB - it looks like we got it right
Apr 26th 2020, 4:29 pm
#1499
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Re: Coronavirus
NB took a lot of flack because the government closed everything down double quick and put everyone on lockdown, but it seems to have worked. They knew we didn’t have the resources to cope with a catastrophe so they sent us home. I applaud NB - it looks like we got it right
The big concern would be that the restrictions eased for the moment are so minor that when they don't result in anything bad, the next phase might be too much too soon.
Apr 26th 2020, 4:49 pm
#1500
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Re: Coronavirus
