GOA - Buyer Beware!
Aug 22nd 2011, 8:55 pm
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
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Corruption widely prevalent in sub-registrar’s offices
]Published on: August 23, 2011 - 02:09
More in: Goa News
BY GLENN COSTA
PANAJI: Corruption seems to be a fact that affects all sections of the society. It is a global phenomenon, which has increased and is now rampant in our society.
The menace of corruption is haunting the entire country.
In our state, speed money has become the norm in most of the government offices, with the sub-registrar’s office being one of the prime offenders, agree both, people and the government sources.
Speed money is referred to the money paid under the table to usually speed up the processes and formalities in the offices.
Given the construction boom in the state and with the yearning of every local to own a flat and with time constraint for what is usually a one-time transaction, money for quick disposal of this particular government service is all prevalent.
If one buys a house or even a plot of land, he needs to visit the sub-registrar’s office. Similar procedures are applicable in both the cases. And if one is in the real estate business, then a visit to the sub-registrar’s office is de rigueur, as sale deeds and agreements are made on a regular basis.
People allege that there is a nexus between a coterie of lawyers and the respective sub-registrars, who have nurtured a symbiotic relationship. In this manner, both make money by restricting and routing documents through fixed channels and own set of rules.
The system in place in these offices is that most registrars have their favourite lawyers through whom the work is done.
“We have to visit the registrar’s office as our business entails registering residential units in clients’ names,” says a builder, Mr Ashok Naik who deals mostly with residential projects in the state.
“Additionally, we have to frequent the sub-registrar’s office even though many of the complexes (residential) have societies.”
To-days Nav times
Corruption widely prevalent in sub-registrar’s offices
]Published on: August 23, 2011 - 02:09
More in: Goa News
BY GLENN COSTA
PANAJI: Corruption seems to be a fact that affects all sections of the society. It is a global phenomenon, which has increased and is now rampant in our society.
The menace of corruption is haunting the entire country.
In our state, speed money has become the norm in most of the government offices, with the sub-registrar’s office being one of the prime offenders, agree both, people and the government sources.
Speed money is referred to the money paid under the table to usually speed up the processes and formalities in the offices.
Given the construction boom in the state and with the yearning of every local to own a flat and with time constraint for what is usually a one-time transaction, money for quick disposal of this particular government service is all prevalent.
If one buys a house or even a plot of land, he needs to visit the sub-registrar’s office. Similar procedures are applicable in both the cases. And if one is in the real estate business, then a visit to the sub-registrar’s office is de rigueur, as sale deeds and agreements are made on a regular basis.
People allege that there is a nexus between a coterie of lawyers and the respective sub-registrars, who have nurtured a symbiotic relationship. In this manner, both make money by restricting and routing documents through fixed channels and own set of rules.
The system in place in these offices is that most registrars have their favourite lawyers through whom the work is done.
“We have to visit the registrar’s office as our business entails registering residential units in clients’ names,” says a builder, Mr Ashok Naik who deals mostly with residential projects in the state.
“Additionally, we have to frequent the sub-registrar’s office even though many of the complexes (residential) have societies.”
Last edited by noni; Aug 22nd 2011 at 9:00 pm.
Aug 22nd 2011, 9:54 pm
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Think this is interesting enough to put here!
To-days Nav times
Corruption widely prevalent in sub-registrar’s offices
]Published on: August 23, 2011 - 02:09
More in: Goa News
BY GLENN COSTA
PANAJI: Corruption seems to be a fact that affects all sections of the society. It is a global phenomenon, which has increased and is now rampant in our society.
The menace of corruption is haunting the entire country.
In our state, speed money has become the norm in most of the government offices, with the sub-registrar’s office being one of the prime offenders, agree both, people and the government sources.
Speed money is referred to the money paid under the table to usually speed up the processes and formalities in the offices.
Given the construction boom in the state and with the yearning of every local to own a flat and with time constraint for what is usually a one-time transaction, money for quick disposal of this particular government service is all prevalent.
If one buys a house or even a plot of land, he needs to visit the sub-registrar’s office. Similar procedures are applicable in both the cases. And if one is in the real estate business, then a visit to the sub-registrar’s office is de rigueur, as sale deeds and agreements are made on a regular basis.
People allege that there is a nexus between a coterie of lawyers and the respective sub-registrars, who have nurtured a symbiotic relationship. In this manner, both make money by restricting and routing documents through fixed channels and own set of rules.
The system in place in these offices is that most registrars have their favourite lawyers through whom the work is done.
“We have to visit the registrar’s office as our business entails registering residential units in clients’ names,” says a builder, Mr Ashok Naik who deals mostly with residential projects in the state.
“Additionally, we have to frequent the sub-registrar’s office even though many of the complexes (residential) have societies.”
To-days Nav times
Corruption widely prevalent in sub-registrar’s offices
]Published on: August 23, 2011 - 02:09
More in: Goa News
BY GLENN COSTA
PANAJI: Corruption seems to be a fact that affects all sections of the society. It is a global phenomenon, which has increased and is now rampant in our society.
The menace of corruption is haunting the entire country.
In our state, speed money has become the norm in most of the government offices, with the sub-registrar’s office being one of the prime offenders, agree both, people and the government sources.
Speed money is referred to the money paid under the table to usually speed up the processes and formalities in the offices.
Given the construction boom in the state and with the yearning of every local to own a flat and with time constraint for what is usually a one-time transaction, money for quick disposal of this particular government service is all prevalent.
If one buys a house or even a plot of land, he needs to visit the sub-registrar’s office. Similar procedures are applicable in both the cases. And if one is in the real estate business, then a visit to the sub-registrar’s office is de rigueur, as sale deeds and agreements are made on a regular basis.
People allege that there is a nexus between a coterie of lawyers and the respective sub-registrars, who have nurtured a symbiotic relationship. In this manner, both make money by restricting and routing documents through fixed channels and own set of rules.
The system in place in these offices is that most registrars have their favourite lawyers through whom the work is done.
“We have to visit the registrar’s office as our business entails registering residential units in clients’ names,” says a builder, Mr Ashok Naik who deals mostly with residential projects in the state.
“Additionally, we have to frequent the sub-registrar’s office even though many of the complexes (residential) have societies.”
Last edited by Sue; Sep 11th 2011 at 11:48 am. Reason: correction
Aug 23rd 2011, 1:43 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
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Aug 23rd 2011, 2:30 am
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Sep 10th 2011, 5:11 pm
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I would like to contact any people who have good or bad experiences with Knight Knox property developers in Manchester.
I have so far a very bad experience.
As my experince maybe a one off situation I am trying to get a clearer picture how many other people feel this company is to say the least untrustworthy.
I can then form a judgement about Knight Knox and ther sales practices.
Thanks
anyone who takes the time to reply
I have so far a very bad experience.
As my experince maybe a one off situation I am trying to get a clearer picture how many other people feel this company is to say the least untrustworthy.
I can then form a judgement about Knight Knox and ther sales practices.
Thanks
anyone who takes the time to reply
Sep 10th 2011, 5:19 pm
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
My property problems are related to Pattaya Thailand not Goa, just to clarify that point,should ther be several people with similar problems with Knight Knox I would suggest we all join together to take legal action instead of individualy trying to tackle the problem.
Sep 10th 2011, 8:41 pm
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Welcome to BE and the Goa forum.
I have heard Knight Knox mentioned before but cannot recall in what capacity. I don't know if they operate in Goa or not but I am sure someone on this forum will know and hopfully anyone else reading this who has had problems with this company will make a reply.
Any chance you could tell us a little bit more about this company and some of their sales practices that you know of? Also who runs this outfit?
There are a lot of expats leaving Goa after all the problems over property and Thailand seems quite a popular alternative for som, so at least an outlin of what they do may forewarn others who may be thinking of dealing with this company.
Again welcome aboard and I hope you receive some useful information
Dread - x
Sep 19th 2011, 7:13 pm
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Hello Dreadsoc,
Thankyou for the interest, Yes I will tell you what I can about Knight Knox International,
Basically I wanted to buy an apartment in either Malaysia or Thailand (as I used to live there and want to retire there).
I chose an apartment in Thailand from their web page, and contacted KK who are based in Worsley Manchester.
I was attracted to them as I thought I was buying from someone in the UK and not a company in Thailand I had never heard of.
But KK are only a sales company who literally take a sales commission and pass you over to someone in Thailand you have never heard of.They don t tell you this they also fail to tell you that the deposit suddenly grows from the original price in my case 5500 to 6900quid till you ve started paying. -again misleading. Then when I received the contract and had read the small print I found clauses in it I did not like. One such clause stated that my furnished apartment has no water gas or electric meters installed, as such is unusable and it is left to the buyer to solve those issues, (whoever builds a block of flats knowing full well that all will require meters but doesn t install them)
Another clause states that should for any reason during the 30 month payment period one payment should be late or not arrive the owner reserve the right to sell your apartment off and you forfeit the right to one penny back ,-even if its the last payment. Only a clown or a blind man would sign that.
There sales team make you wild promises they cant maintain. just to achieve a sale , basically they convince you that a downpayment of 1500 quid wills secure the apartment KK promised any issues with the contract could be amended and they d solve all, now I have issues they have solved nothing , both KK and the Thai building company will not answer any of my emails they are holding 6500 quid of my money. I won t sign the contract, I have been offered, and they re not making any attempt to pay me back as I have requested,,,,,, rip off merchants.I think a guy called JEREMY KNIGHT is behind it.I will be using all the media methods available to me to ruin the reputation of KK if they don t pay me back, at least I can forwarn others not to get duped.
D
Ps will email you the clauses if reqd
Thankyou for the interest, Yes I will tell you what I can about Knight Knox International,
Basically I wanted to buy an apartment in either Malaysia or Thailand (as I used to live there and want to retire there).
I chose an apartment in Thailand from their web page, and contacted KK who are based in Worsley Manchester.
I was attracted to them as I thought I was buying from someone in the UK and not a company in Thailand I had never heard of.
But KK are only a sales company who literally take a sales commission and pass you over to someone in Thailand you have never heard of.They don t tell you this they also fail to tell you that the deposit suddenly grows from the original price in my case 5500 to 6900quid till you ve started paying. -again misleading. Then when I received the contract and had read the small print I found clauses in it I did not like. One such clause stated that my furnished apartment has no water gas or electric meters installed, as such is unusable and it is left to the buyer to solve those issues, (whoever builds a block of flats knowing full well that all will require meters but doesn t install them)
Another clause states that should for any reason during the 30 month payment period one payment should be late or not arrive the owner reserve the right to sell your apartment off and you forfeit the right to one penny back ,-even if its the last payment. Only a clown or a blind man would sign that.
There sales team make you wild promises they cant maintain. just to achieve a sale , basically they convince you that a downpayment of 1500 quid wills secure the apartment KK promised any issues with the contract could be amended and they d solve all, now I have issues they have solved nothing , both KK and the Thai building company will not answer any of my emails they are holding 6500 quid of my money. I won t sign the contract, I have been offered, and they re not making any attempt to pay me back as I have requested,,,,,, rip off merchants.I think a guy called JEREMY KNIGHT is behind it.
I will be using all the media methods available to me to ruin the reputation of KK if they don t pay me back, at least I can forwarn others not to get duped.D
Ps will email you the clauses if reqd
Sep 20th 2011, 7:57 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Hi Dayhid
First of all thank you from myself and I am sure on behalf of other members of the Goa forum for sharing your experiences with us all.
My heart really goes out to you for having such a horrible experience, when all you wanted was to fulfil a simple dream - and such a dream should be simple, not ruined by greedy con artists.
I hope anyone reading this will make a good mental note of the company name KNIGHT KNOX and avoid them at all costs.
I would advise you to contact Greater Manchester Police and ask to be put through to their Fraud Squad. You will speak to a detective who specialises in this area and will advise you whether they will pursue this company. I would ask for a meeting rather than try and explain over th phone.
Fraud is a very specific area of law, but it certainly sounds from what you have written here that there is a deliberate element of deception.
My advice is to copy every e mail and other item of correspondence you have had with this company and also copy any web pages and other items where they make the promises that they clearly do not then carry out. Ask to meet with a fraud squad detective and take all of these documents with you.
Don't be afraid to seek this help. Chances are you will not be the first to speak to them about this company.
Please let me know how you get on - you are welcome to do so by pm. Certainly if I hear of anyone else having agro with this company I shall put them in touch with you.
All the best and thank you again for warning others against another unscrupulous operator
Dread - x
First of all thank you from myself and I am sure on behalf of other members of the Goa forum for sharing your experiences with us all.
My heart really goes out to you for having such a horrible experience, when all you wanted was to fulfil a simple dream - and such a dream should be simple, not ruined by greedy con artists.
I hope anyone reading this will make a good mental note of the company name KNIGHT KNOX and avoid them at all costs.
I would advise you to contact Greater Manchester Police and ask to be put through to their Fraud Squad. You will speak to a detective who specialises in this area and will advise you whether they will pursue this company. I would ask for a meeting rather than try and explain over th phone.
Fraud is a very specific area of law, but it certainly sounds from what you have written here that there is a deliberate element of deception.
My advice is to copy every e mail and other item of correspondence you have had with this company and also copy any web pages and other items where they make the promises that they clearly do not then carry out. Ask to meet with a fraud squad detective and take all of these documents with you.
Don't be afraid to seek this help. Chances are you will not be the first to speak to them about this company.
Please let me know how you get on - you are welcome to do so by pm. Certainly if I hear of anyone else having agro with this company I shall put them in touch with you.
All the best and thank you again for warning others against another unscrupulous operator
Dread - x
Sep 25th 2011, 9:44 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Hello everyone!
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
Sep 25th 2011, 11:12 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Hello everyone!
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
Welcome to BE and the Goa forum.
I am sorry to hear about the bad experiences you are having. Sadly the behaviours you have described by lawyers and agents are all too familiar and regular when it comes to professional dealings in Goa. There seems to be excessive greed where all parties want their cut, especially when it comes to those viewed as 'foreigners'.
It is possible that the reason these people do not want you to speak with the owner of the property is because they have given you one price, which is markedly different from the real price of the property, but I am sure you already formed that suspicion.
I would be very interested in identifying the lawyers and agents who have tried to rip you off as they may be the same persons I already have information of this nature on If you are willing to say who they are you can pm me. I guarantee you confidentiality on anything you divulge to me.
I really hope that the real seller of the property in Anjuna is a member of this forum and gets in touch with you. How great would it be to cut out all those agents and deal direct.
If it would help I do have a lawyer in Goa who has taken on a number of cases for non locals, and does things by the book. Pm me if you want the details.
In the meantime all the best in finding the owner and if you are one of those who is eligible to buy in Goa don't allow these sharks to take away your dream.
Regards
Dread - x
Sep 25th 2011, 11:15 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Hello everyone!
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
You giving details of those who have fleeced you,, helps others not to fall into the same trap.
Thanks Noni
Sep 25th 2011, 12:35 pm
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
I would like to contact any people who have good or bad experiences with Knight Knox property developers in Manchester.
I have so far a very bad experience.
As my experince maybe a one off situation I am trying to get a clearer picture how many other people feel this company is to say the least untrustworthy.
I can then form a judgement about Knight Knox and ther sales practices.
Thanks
anyone who takes the time to reply
I have so far a very bad experience.
As my experince maybe a one off situation I am trying to get a clearer picture how many other people feel this company is to say the least untrustworthy.
I can then form a judgement about Knight Knox and ther sales practices.
Thanks
anyone who takes the time to reply
http://212.58.247.12/programmes/b00clz8s
This is a link to the transcript of the broadcast:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/facethef...8_18_goa.shtml
I have the broadcast saved to hard drive but it won't copy and paste to this post for some reason and it won't load as an attachment. It's 23 Mb and the attachment limit is 10Mb.
I could maybe send it attached to an email if you want to pm me your e mail address.
Sep 26th 2011, 12:26 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
Hello everyone!
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
We have had our own share of troubles with buying property in Goa- having been cheated by 2 estate agents and their lawyer who were passing off an illegal property as legal and had fake documentation to go with it as well. We were saved by the skin of our teeth but not without considerable financial loss and emotional strain.
Now we have found a place we would like to buy and we were told it belongs to an expat who wants to sell- however the agent/s and lawyers refuse to tell us who the owners are because they want to avoid us directly speaking to the owners (we do not know why!). Our citizenship status makes it easy for us to buy in Goa or in the UK. The property agents in Goa we have come across have been corrupt and untrustworthy- further, each property is loaded with a chain of agents, all of whom want to make a quick buck- thereby making the price of the property too high and unrealistic.
Hence we have decided to take this step and participate in this forum to find out ways of identifying the expat owners. We can send more information to anyone interested or knowledgeable and willing to help us. We realize that expat owners may not want to be recognized easily but are hoping that we will get lucky.
The property we like is located in Anjuna/Vagator near the petrol pump and has a garage. Buying in goa is becoming a distant dream but we are still trying to get there....any help will be very much appreciated.
Many thanks-
Goavag
If the owners are FN's not of Indian origin and have not been allowed to Register the Deeds then you will be buying from the previous owner probably using a Deed of Assignment, and the previous owner must produce the above documents. If by any chance the FN owners did get the deeds registered then there is a very good chance that the Sub-Registrar will not register your purchase.
Get a good lawyer
Don't part with any money
hth - AndyD 8-)#
Sep 26th 2011, 7:59 am
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Re: GOA - Buyer Beware!
I think the link to this Radio 4 programme is archived too far back and won't play in BBC iplayer but it's about Goa property scams and Knight Knox are mentioned including an interview with their Goa Sales Rep (Mr Manjit), a tour of a show flat at Meadow Woods complex with them, and interview with their appointed lawyer in Mapusa, Mr Gajanan Korgaonkar.
http://212.58.247.12/programmes/b00clz8s
This is a link to the transcript of the broadcast:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/facethef...8_18_goa.shtml
I have the broadcast saved to hard drive but it won't copy and paste to this post for some reason and it won't load as an attachment. It's 23 Mb and the attachment limit is 10Mb.
I could maybe send it attached to an email if you want to pm me your e mail address.
http://212.58.247.12/programmes/b00clz8s
This is a link to the transcript of the broadcast:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/facethef...8_18_goa.shtml
I have the broadcast saved to hard drive but it won't copy and paste to this post for some reason and it won't load as an attachment. It's 23 Mb and the attachment limit is 10Mb.
I could maybe send it attached to an email if you want to pm me your e mail address.
YIPPEE BABU IS BACK
- great to see you back Babu, you have been very missed.
It is brilliant that you are able to provide the information to someone having problems with this company.
The lawyer you mention KORGONAKAR has come to my attention before in relation to a bent UK agent whom he has acted for.
Strange how the same individulas keep cropping up time after time for similar activities.
Hope you will be around a bit more Babu
Dread - x
