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Hi all,

seems a lot of people are very upset and why wouldn't they be. I am also upset and face more stress than ever, as we all do.

You will probably hate me for saying this, however, not all people in Goa are bad. Many have their own stressors and we should in my view not make total generalisations. Though, I know many of us are upset I am sure we all know very genuine Goans.

That aside I am thinking following the petition it may be an idea to bombard our beloved Govt. with the facts with regard to UK citz. purchasing through a lawyer. I think I read that their is a scam run by Indians in the UK to bring paying students the UK to attend colleges that don't exist. Maybe letters to our MPs couls focus on corruption as the norm in India and the fact that we have all been ripped off because we don't know about or enter into that type of corrupt system. Hand on heart we all know that aid is desperately needed in India as a whole. I think it pointless the UK Govt. sending aid to the pockets of Goondas, no, I mean polititions we know what goes on here so lets put pressure on both sides.

Keep well all avoid the Maleria.

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I think the answer is that if anything would be about to be confiscated then before that would happen then I would make sure the property would be demolished in totality, whether by fire or simply by smashing up. I know that personlly that is what I would do. I would smash, wreck and render the place totally into a slum before I would let it go. ( Even then it would still probably look better than the slums my Goan neighbours live in because they know no better).
Hey Erinsgirl,

I loved your long post - thanks for taking the time to write it! I too would destroy our Goan property rather than it be confiscated. If 'push comes to shove' my last purchase in Goa will be a Tata truck, you know the goods carrying ones - from who ever will sell me one for a fat wad of Rupees, I would then take it to the house & aim it at the lounge, jam a brick on the throttle pedal & let the truck do it's worst!

If we can't have it - no other f**ker will either = especially when their hard earned hasn't paid for it & ours has!

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Think we all feel the same about our hard earned money going into the hands of the government, lets hope it dosent come to this, ive had many happy years in Goa and have many indian and goan friends so its really sad to now be thinking like this, it is all really and truely messed up situation, one that could be easily solved by just letting us all sell and do what we want to do and then everyone would be happy, whether you go or stay in goa is irrelevent.
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I think the answer is that if anything would be about to be confiscated then before that would happen then I would make sure the property would be demolished in totality, whether by fire or simply by smashing up. I know that personlly that is what I would do. I would smash, wreck and render the place totally into a slum before I would let it go. ( Even then it would still probably look better than the slums my Goan neighbours live in because they know no better). All the granite, all the marble, tiles etc, all the bathroom and kitchen fittings, all the extras that we paid so heavily for I would simply demolish, even if I had to go at it with a pickaxe. At the end of the day I paid for all of them and so in my view they are mine to destroy.. And destroy is what I would do. Any Indian would be then welcome to buy or take the shell that is left. that is all it would be, a burntout and demolished shell. Of course they would probably not notice the difference since that is what most of them are used to. I see the shambles and mess that they live in daily on my compound and so I know they would see no difference. Give them a hundred years of civilisation and perhaps they would appreciate what is around them in terms of what others have provided. on site. They are never the ones concerned with cleanliness, tidyness and keeping things shipshape or puting their hands in their pockets to pay for it. It is probably no different than if we were all transported back to medieval England to see what people accepted then as the norm. 1350 or thereabouts. I don't blame these people, How can you? I don't call them third world, I think it is more like fifth world They are simply backward and know no better. They are no different to the serfs and vassails in medieval England who were subject to their lords and masters. What does amuse me though is to see the pretensions of a country where the likes of Hilary Clinton comes to visit and has discussions about for example education and nuclear power and Indian being a world partner. I do sometime wonder what planet she is on or they are on to be more specfic. However given that my great grandfather was a US citizen and Mayor of New York, perhaps a few letters to her about the delusions of this place might well be worth the while. She is all for Human Rights. Perhaps a few comments about the racism directed towards the British/Irish/ Europeans might prove worthwhile bedtime reading for her. That is a theme close to the US heart ( and pocket).

Having given some thougth to this specific problem of Goa it is true that of course when the Potgugues left in 61 they abondoned all their properties to the locals and it could well be that the locals Goans are mistaken in believing that we British would do the same and simpy exit the country leaving all intact for them to pick up for free. Especially given that they have put most British owners here under such pressure and threat that that is exactly what is happening with people selling up and being desperate to go at any cost. ( Foolish on the part of the Brits to say the least but understandable given the past history) It is this that possibly gives the Goans the mistaken impression that all drops from heaven into their laps without any effort on their part !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ( No wonder they are so bloody lazy, they have never struggled their guts out to buy a property and keep it, they must inherit it, go to court about it or wait for some intruder in their view to quit the country and hand it over to them ) For them that would be a second bonanza in their hopes and prayers. Litttle do they understand the British mentality and probably equate the British with the Portuguese whom they may mistakenly see as being equal partners in the Eurpopean community simply because we are all members. A little education needed here.. Sad that they do not understand how low the Portugues rank in the overall scheme of things within the EC. They are almost at the bottom of the ladder!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in terms of power and influence. All they get are financial handouts from the rest of us ( along with Ireland and I hate to say that being Irish but it is true). Probably fairly high in terms of getting grants and subsidies though. That is something the Goans could identlify with of course since that is all they know. When I write of the EC I do not include the recently joined countries since they are something apart. As far as Portugal is concened they are low level players who do not figure on the world stage about anything. Not defence. global warming, scientific advances, etc etc. Farming, wine and tourism is their lot, not much else. No problem with this as long as they do not for one moment fall into the trap of believing they are in the big league of nations. Not sure that Fado counts in worldwide influence ( even though I happen to enjoy it). In fact . if truth be known, when you consider it all, it's not that far removed from being like the Goans. If you really consider it that is what they are. An impoverished and backward state with little resources except in iron ore and tourism and cascino boats with an infrastructure that would have been considered advanced a century ago.

My final comment is to suggest that they simply consider the british bulldog nature which does not give up and will not give up without fight. It may be that I do indeed have to end up going and leaving all ( God forbid but it may be so ). What I leave behind will not be worth having, What I do with the rest of my life will be to devote all my remaing time and energy ( which will not be that long as I am a pensioner) to highlight the racism, injustice and double dealing which I have experienced here. Whether that is by way of TV documentary. consumer affairs. writing a book or giving lectures I do not yet know. I am an adept writer and an excellent conference speaker so both of these paths are open to me. I am not one of the so called " riff raff " social benefits scroungers tourists that the Goans wish to delude themselves live here. I am a graduate, well educated with plenty of money and a lifetime of experience of overseas living all over the world and so I have resolved to puruse whatever I believe to be the best path in order to extract my revenge. Whichever it is, I can assure you I will also do my level best to ensure that whilst pursuing this most legitimate course of action I will lose no sleep should it negatively impact on the image which Goa wishes to portray as a tourism destination ( not of course that they are interested in foreign tourists, only local tourists I understand, so no problem except when the expenditure levels sink below recognition which I am sure it will in the very near future). I am not even sure it will make any difference here but it will make a difference to me and rectify the inbalance of injustice which burns in my soul and which cries out for justice.
Hi erinsgirl,Hope you feel better after that,Its every thing i thought off and will do too.Thank you.
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Originally Posted by poppetjay
Think we all feel the same about our hard earned money going into the hands of the government, lets hope it dosent come to this, ive had many happy years in Goa and have many indian and goan friends so its really sad to now be thinking like this, it is all really and truely messed up situation, one that could be easily solved by just letting us all sell and do what we want to do and then everyone would be happy, whether you go or stay in goa is irrelevent.
PJ, You, unlike me are a true expat - I guess until all the sh1t over the last couple of years, you would have never dreamed of selling - why should you have to when you've done nothing wrong!

The BE forum is a VERY negative place to be at the moment as far as I see it -people are entitled to their opinions but some on here are horrendously negative & they aren't at all in line with my experiences.

Anyhow, enough sh1te from me!

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hi hemingway
up until april of this year i would have stayed in goa , as my husband really loves it, but ive been working away since then and returned for a months holiday, and i didnt like what i saw or heard and if im truly honest dont want to be there anymore.
It at the moment is a no win situation without selling we cant move, and i want to work and have to now to cover expenses of visas and trips to and from the the uk, which means leaving my OH there, if we sold up he could come with me, so we are stuck, living separate lives in different parts of the world.
Not what i envisaged 8 years ago when buying my lovely apartment.

UOTE=hemingway;7784029]PJ, You, unlike me are a true expat - I guess until all the sh1t over the last couple of years, you would have never dreamed of selling - why should you have to when you've done nothing wrong!

The BE forum is a VERY negative place to be at the moment as far as I see it -people are entitled to their opinions but some on here are horrendously negative & they aren't at all in line with my experiences.

Anyhow, enough sh1te from me!

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Horrendously negative? Is the place a living breathing filthy garbage dump?,Are the Goans getting greedier by the day? Is the local govt in Goa holding hostage to everybody(Fns) who bought(then legally) in Goa?,Is the place itself getting expensive? YES Yes Yes to all quoted and lots lots more.
Tourism will plummet in Goa, this year, no income,people getting greedier,viscious circle repeating itself.Its dead , kaput , end game in sight,bye bye Goa say hello to the sea(Its biting you in the ass).

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Jose, you are sounding very hostile and bitter.
Yes Goa is a developing country and i for one still love it, warts and all.
In fact its 'primitive' laid back culture is part of its attraction. If you want Las Vegas then go to America.

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Originally Posted by Remy-Ireland
Jose, you are sounding very hostile and bitter.
Yes Goa is a developing country and i for one still love it, warts and all.
In fact its 'primitive' laid back culture is part of its attraction. If you want Las Vegas then go to America.

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No,he is he telling the truth as it is, (SNIP),So the Goans have to remain primitive so you can enjoy your 3 week holiday.

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Thank you Hot Buffy and the others supporting my comments,(SNIP)

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Hi erinsgirl,Hope you feel better after that,Its every thing i thought off and will do too.Thank you.
Dont know about Errinsgirl but I felt better reading it. It says it all. Carry on.
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No,he is he telling the truth as it is, (SNIP),So the Goans have to remain primitive so you can enjoy your 3 week holiday.

mmmmm so all Goans have to conform to your requirments so you can enjoy yours???
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hi jose1
do you know anymore about the house in parra, was it in the papers or is it just earsay, i live very close to parra and think i know of the house you mention but have heard nothing.
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I read on one of the other threads a post by Jose which really should have been on here. Jose said that'had we not heard of payment in Uk made for the purchase of our property. JOSE when you sold did you have registered deeds or did you have a sale agreement and haveto pay your builder to change the name on the deeds so that the sale could be registered.
We all know that indians just hand over the cash, but people have had to reimburse their purchasers when they cannot register the deeds.
Some may do a runner with the money if they are not worried about airport authorities etc, Can you advise on this please.
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